# Ganking is the only consistent and "fair" content

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 27, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239 "2023-10-27T14:29:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/82 "2023-10-29T20:26:16Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> but not actually preventing ganking.

Of course we did , I know it’s an on going joke about ag failing and sometimes we did but we could stop a 50+ gank fleet with 8 man ag fleet that hit the same freighter 3 times then us once , or stop a fleet of 10 Talos for the loss of one frig and one pilot on grid, so yes we could stop ganker , could you.

It was actually good fighting some of the most skillful gank fleets around , we indeed failed a lot but stopping these guys made new and inexperienced gankers a doddle as some ganker FC while out training new guys will tell you.

Good times indeed .

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/83 "2023-10-29T20:28:10Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> we indeed failed a lot

Indeed.

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/84 "2023-10-29T20:32:41Z")

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if this is your game, to sit there and wait if gankers going to kill someone … sry but this is just stupid ^^ but its your gameplay and i dont wanna stop dong wasting your time xD

but let me ask you a question → can you tell me where gankers hurt your feelings ? … xD

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/85 "2023-10-29T20:34:18Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> I know it’s an on going joke about ag failing and sometimes we did but we could stop a 50+ gank fleet with 8 man ag fleet that hit the same freighter 3 times then us once

Thats quite impressive. And I’ll take your word on it.

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**Author:** ![Ikaru\_Caderu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikaru_caderu/32/417911_2.png) [@Ikaru\_Caderu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikaru_Caderu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/86 "2023-10-29T20:36:22Z")

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> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> if this is your game, to sit there and wait if gankers going to kill someone …

I mean they do it for the content. It’s fun to them and that’s it. I can’t see any other reason to do it as it’s not profitable or actually achieving anything. But content is content and to each their own. Similar thing can be said about gankers.  
“to sit there and wait for someone with cargo to come by”

Not much point in trying to shame, make fun of someone’s content. In contrast people mine full time. They look at a rock and are having fun. I’m sure even antiganking is much more fun than that.

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/87 "2023-10-29T20:40:37Z")

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> [@Ikaru\_Caderu](#):
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> I mean they do it for the content

sure i let them do what they want to do … and if they cant get other content then who i am to say they shouldnt do it !

> [@Ikaru\_Caderu](#):
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> It’s fun to them and that’s it

i´m not thinking its about fun xD i think they do it because they get ganked sometimes and the bad bad gankers are a plague for eve so now they need to be whiteknighs and tech them a lesson …  
not my problem if anybody got so salty that he denied his fun and only play for revenge

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**Author:** ![Ikaru\_Caderu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikaru_caderu/32/417911_2.png) [@Ikaru\_Caderu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikaru_Caderu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/88 "2023-10-29T20:45:28Z")

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> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> cant get other conten

I’m sure they can, but this is more fun for them

> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> only play for revenge

And this can be fun also!

Gankers often crap on AG and vice versa, but I don’t really see that big of a difference other than gankers actually get loot and can play for profit. Although I usually don’t. I enjoy killing things to kill them and if I’m up or neutral that’s a bonus.

A lot of people in this world get their pickles hard by just “messing with someone” and that can be a big motivator. And if you’re motivated you’re usually having fun

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/89 "2023-10-29T20:51:00Z")

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> [@Ikaru\_Caderu](#):
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> And this can be fun also!

sure it can, i still did it a few times with a smartbombing maller only for getting a few killmails years ago …

but still nobody will do it for long if they want real fun in this game ! just waiting for ganker is not fun and nobody can tell me its fun if you do it all day long …

> [@Ikaru\_Caderu](#):
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> A lot of people in this world get their pickles hard by just “messing with someone” and that can be a big motivator.

but whiteknights dont “mess with someone” because they cant … xD they only shoot because they know ganker couldnt shoot back if they wanna kill their target 😉

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**Author:** ![Ikaru\_Caderu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ikaru_caderu/32/417911_2.png) [@Ikaru\_Caderu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ikaru_Caderu)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/90 "2023-10-29T20:57:01Z")

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> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> they only shoot because they know ganker couldnt shoot back if they wanna kill their target

I mean that’s not even antiganking, just whoring on killmails.Couldn’t give a sht about it lol. If anyone wants me to I’ll send you my unposted killmails of my losses. You’ll be able to post them 1 by 1, get some satisfaction.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/91 "2023-10-29T20:58:15Z")

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> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> but let me ask you a question → can you tell me where gankers hurt your feelings ? … xD

To tell you the truth we never sat around for hours on end like gate campers or larger fleets in null , we had good intel and if gankers became active we would assemble, or go out hunting roving gank fleets in planned fleets .

One roving fleet came across 3 tornadoes all flashy red and tethered , guy obviously getting ready for a gate gank. We had good DPS so we bumped one of tether , to our suprise we hit the anchoring ship, and the other neatly followed the first ship, we killed them one at a time . It turns out he was afk and turned supper salty on his return.

As for your last question, they never did , it’s not a game style I like so I wanted to see if there was a way to fight what they do , without any real game mechanics available to us. I never was a miner or hauler so never came across them that way.

I wanted both ganking and anti-ganking to be play styles supported by a workable war Dec system .

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**Author:** ![Vuhdo\_Rin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/vuhdo_rin/32/378868_2.png) [@Vuhdo\_Rin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Vuhdo_Rin)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/92 "2023-10-29T21:08:26Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> without any real game mechanics available to us

no game mechanics for antiganking ? oO wtf … and you want that i believe you ?

you can still say what you want 🙂 whiteknighs are just former victims and now they want revenge and even if the revenge is to safe other lazy and stupid ppl not to die.

i dont care about it … if you or anybody want to do it then go ahead and do your best …  
but dont try to change my mind for this canse because nobody wants it if they wouldnt be cowards to find real ppl to shoot or to salty to look for other content

and btw … yes ganking is boring aswell but it need more skill then antiganking and they doing profit so …

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/93 "2023-10-29T21:08:34Z")

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> [@Ikaru\_Caderu](#):
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> can’t see any other reason to do it as it’s not profitable or actually achieving anything.

You would be surprised at the isk and ships we have been given over our time hunting ganker , remember many of there targets are very rich haulers. I was given 1 billion for a 15 min freighter save . Guy was loaded and was pleased someone helped him .

It probably helped that people started to recognise our group and me but we never wanted for ships and isk

Still, just re subbed and going to try some new stuff this time but it was fun.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/94 "2023-10-29T21:12:56Z")

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> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> no game mechanics for antiganking ? oO wtf … and you want that i believe you ?

Tell you the truth I don’t care what you believe , stop asking me questions if you don’t want answers

> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> safe other lazy and stupid ppl not to die.

You are indeed right  
I have come across many like that , yes frustrating as you are losing ship’s to try and save them but it’s worth it for the good people I have met . Can even say some gankers have become friends

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**Author:** ![Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iceacid_frostpacker/32/505689_2.png) [@Iceacid\_Frostpacker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iceacid_Frostpacker)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/95 "2023-10-29T21:13:24Z")

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Just like how a spider sits and waits by their web

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/96 "2023-10-29T21:46:09Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> it’s not a game style I like

Maybe you should try a game you like?

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 1:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/97 "2023-10-30T01:24:44Z")

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> [@Ikaru\_Caderu](#):
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> People like to say that ganking isn’t fair

Everything is totally fair in a world in which you can _choose_ ( the operative word ) what role to play. Nobody joins Eve and gets immediately told ’ right…all you can ever do from now on is mine’. People **choose** to be miners. As such, they choose to be prey. If they don’t want to be prey, the game gives them fully the option to be something else. Simple !

Eve is fundamentally all about the consequences of your choices.

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**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 3:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/98 "2023-10-30T03:09:40Z")

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> [@Githany\_Red](#):
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> Stop asking for nerfs and ask for better game play, your lazy to ask and CCP are lazy to comply.

When the anti pirates have seen the truth, it is a blessed day.

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**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 12:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/100 "2023-10-30T12:03:35Z")

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That quite good but I also think you need psych help

Maybe we should ask chat GPT to fill it out and make it into a weekly story get a fue voice actors and do a radio play even, use running stories from only C&C , so people need can get on the show by being here ☺

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**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/101 "2023-10-30T12:10:58Z")

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> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> eve is not like other games ! its more specific and its does not need any “adapt” like other games ! eve is existing 20 years and still a lot ppl play this game → sounds CCP does a lot things right

Completely irrelevant…games have to change to survive… 20 years means NOTHING

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**Author:** ![Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kanavaisto_askiras/32/387775_2.png) [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kanavaisto_Askiras)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/102 "2023-10-30T12:11:45Z")

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> [@Vuhdo\_Rin](#):
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> disqualified for lifetime !

You mean yourself?

I’m right here also…

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