# Ganking is the only consistent and "fair" content

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [October 27, 2023, 2:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239 "2023-10-27T14:29:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/145 "2023-10-31T13:13:06Z")

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That’s because yours are so poorly fit, that you need 7.

I have one that can do it all.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/146 "2023-10-31T13:15:12Z")

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You do seem obsessed wth gnosis.

Dr Zaera Keena Ph.D can help you with this addiction of yours for 1 billion ISK

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/147 "2023-10-31T13:16:11Z")

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And having multiple side relationships. 7?! That’s a lot of affairs to juggle.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/148 "2023-10-31T13:17:34Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> I have one that can do it all.

But that’s the very nature of fitting in Eve. You can’t have. Every fitting is a compromise. You want more of one thing, you have less of something else. Generally I sacrifice a bit of tank for more DPS, greater range, faster targeting, etc.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/149 "2023-10-31T13:21:21Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> You do seem obsessed wth gnosis.

Maybe because if you think ’ oh…that’ll just be Altara flying by in a Gnosis…just ignore’…you’ll miss that I’m _actually_ flying by in a Raven or an Apoc. See, the ‘Altara only flies a Gnosis’ myth serves me well !

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/150 "2023-10-31T13:21:49Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> But that’s the very nature of fitting in Eve. You can’t have. Every fitting is a compromise.

See, that’s where you are wrong. The Gnosis is a special ship, where if you fit it right, it can do everything better than the specialized ships.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/151 "2023-10-31T13:30:29Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> The Gnosis is a special ship, where if you fit it right, it can do everything better than the specialized ships.

You mean like how much better it did than most of the doctrine fitted ships in my very first station bash ?

> **[Astrahus | New Eden Logistics Service | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/101398805/)**
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> (New Eden Logistics Service) lost their Astrahus in Yoma (Lonetrek). Final Blow by Altara Zemara (Absolute Order IX) flying in a Gnosis. Total Value: 1,496,779,026.84 ISK

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/152 "2023-10-31T13:37:58Z")

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Clearly the structure had no chance against your Gnosis. But, why were you not the top damage dealer?

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**Author:** ![New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/new_order_enforcer/32/387867_2.png) [@New\_Order\_Enforcer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/New_Order_Enforcer)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/153 "2023-10-31T13:42:19Z")

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WM does the lowest form of griefing but it is also a very noble and respectable activity.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/154 "2023-10-31T13:44:47Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> But, why were you not the top damage dealer?

That would be greedy, as I already got the final shot.

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/155 "2023-10-31T14:16:18Z")

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The one thing I can think of that would be more boring than sitting in a gate blob, is station bashing.

Why are you lowering yourself to such trite activities. You’re so much better than that.

I hope one day you see that in yourself as well.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 3:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/156 "2023-10-31T15:02:01Z")

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I dunno about that, a blob of 80 monkeys simultaneously shooting at a structure can’t be as mind nummingly boring as vegetating as you shoot at a rock with a mining laser.

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**Author:** ![Eldstokkr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eldstokkr/32/361029_2.png) [@Eldstokkr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eldstokkr)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/157 "2023-10-31T17:05:51Z")

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> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#):
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> Thank you…you prove that i’m absolutly right with every word i say without even noticing it…you do my work for me…very convinient…

The Prophet wonders who told you it was cool to structure your statements this way?

Cause it isn’t.

> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#):
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> PVP is just a minority in this game…

Why lie?

> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#):
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> Your playstyle is completely irrelevant and therefore can be ignored completely…

Oh? Will you tell the null blocs that as well or

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**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 5:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/158 "2023-10-31T17:35:30Z")

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> [@Zaera\_Keena](#):
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> shoot at a rock with a mining laser.

Solo, in low sec is entertaining.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2023, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/159 "2023-10-31T17:48:25Z")

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More entertaining shooting the miner

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/160 "2023-11-01T02:08:10Z")

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> [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](#):
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> The one thing I can think of that would be more boring than sitting in a gate blob, is station bashing.

It varies _widely_ depending on the defending corp size and whether they do actually defend. Some bashes can be just a case of turning up and shooting. Some can be a wild ride where one is neuted, fired upon by the station, fired upon by defending ships, fired upon by defending drones, and so on. The latter are anything but boring. As with ganking its one of those things one has to actually _do_ to know the content value.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 11:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/161 "2023-11-01T11:38:50Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> one is neuted, fired upon by the station, fired upon by defending ships, fired upon by defending drones, and so on.

Vivid imagination.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/b/f/1bf639323a888cbe59dc74a3f4e6bca28b829284.png)

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**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/162 "2023-11-01T12:18:58Z")

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> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> Some bashes can be just a case of turning up and shooting. Some can be a wild ride where one is neuted, fired upon by the station, fired upon by defending ships, fired upon by defending drones, and so on. The latter are anything but boring.

And realistically, how many of those engagements turn out to be ‘wild rides’ where your side actually do lose some ships or have to retreat? Please, link some reports! Because it sounds like a 50/50 chance as you discribe it. I feel it’s more like 99/1, but I can be wrong of course.

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**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/163 "2023-11-01T16:03:08Z")

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> [@Kanavaisto\_Askiras](#):
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> Just let the people play their game and only fight someone with their consent.

Undocking = consent.

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**Author:** ![Nabi\_Kim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nabi_kim/32/390748_2.png) [@Nabi\_Kim](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nabi_Kim)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2023, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-is-the-only-consistent-and-fair-content/425239/164 "2023-11-01T16:04:49Z")

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You used to be able to gank even a Hulk with 1 TechII Catalyst but now you need several Catalysts to even gank a Retriever.

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