# Ganking makes Eve a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690 "2021-06-25T13:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/183 "2021-10-15T06:44:53Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Eve could survive without gankers…but it could not survive without miners. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > You are either a troll or simply dont think. Hi Ramona, I think it’s clear by now which of your statements applies. If you enter an adult discussion with the mindset of an adolescent texter, you are bound to appear foolish. That this didn’t occur to the poster and give her pause for thought further convinces me that she has neither the skills to troll effectively nor the urge carefully to consider her points of view. As usual, you have trumped me in the succinct expression of this view! EDIT: Rogue letter ‘r’ ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/184 "2021-10-15T06:47:01Z")
Thanks! Her dumb replies just hurt my brain with their inconsistant application of what passes for logic. Im sure its probaby just a poor troll and Im feeding it by talking to or about it but what can I say, I have my own complusions. ---
**Author:** ![Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/siegfried_cohenberg/32/423311_2.png) [@Siegfried\_Cohenberg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Siegfried_Cohenberg)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/185 "2021-10-15T08:36:35Z")
what the ■■■■ ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/186 "2021-10-15T09:38:31Z")
And pigs fly ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/187 "2021-10-15T11:16:13Z")
Did You Know…? People think Nostradamus predicted the aeroplane when he said “Men-like pigs will fly” referencing the oxygen mask of a Second World War fighter pilot. But what he actually said was “Men, like pigs, will fly” Meaning he didnt think manned flight would be possible. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/188 "2021-10-15T15:26:25Z")
Lol…its on par with arguing with flat earthers. Utter evasiveness, and it always ends with ’ your mom sucks ’ or some other highly intellectual riposte. ---
**Author:** ![Landeskog\_Salvo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/landeskog_salvo/32/387471_2.png) [@Landeskog\_Salvo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Landeskog_Salvo)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/189 "2021-10-15T15:58:21Z")
Avoid systems with high traffic (Jumps per 24H) (Kills per 24H). Use [https://evemaps.dotlan.net/](https://evemaps.dotlan.net/) and find a system with 12+ belts and low traffic using the parameters I just stated then profit. I just solved every newbies gank problem. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/190 "2021-10-15T21:12:41Z")
I too, have solved the Uedama problem. It isn’t my fault they won’t use the tool. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/191 "2021-10-24T10:14:26Z")
Men do not fly, airplanes do. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/192 "2021-10-24T10:24:06Z")
Men do not walk, their shoes do. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/193 "2021-10-24T10:24:33Z")
Incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/194 "2021-10-24T10:31:17Z")
You’re right in the sense that men can walk without shoes and men cannot fly without flying equipment. Men can however fly without airplanes: [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/2/8/8286caaa643a222e9c3597d8b440058884ef3a64.jpeg "Latest Flight Testing!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHk13Xa8dqI) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/195 "2021-10-24T16:47:42Z")
That is a type of airplane. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/196 "2021-10-24T16:51:05Z")
Airplanes are kind of defined by their fixed wings though, and I don’t see any in that video. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/197 "2021-10-24T16:54:42Z")
Fixed wing is a glider, an airplane has an engine of some sort. A man can walk with or without shoes, he cannot fly without either a fixed wing or a motor, without a motor he is merely gliding. Still we are getting a little pedantic. Fun though… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/198 "2021-10-24T16:56:26Z")
What about air balloons? They neither glide, have no wings and while you could add a motor to steer, they usually fly without motor. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/199 "2021-10-24T17:00:34Z")
One can argue that the engine heating up the air is a motor, one can also suggest that Helium or Hydrogen is a sort of motor in that it is lighter than air, again I am being pedantic. 😛 Injecting helium or hydrogen into a man is not going to make him fly so he is using some artificial means to fly, while he does not need artificial means to walk. Unless he is injured in some way of course… ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 5:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/200 "2021-10-24T17:09:30Z")
As in EVE, it entirely depends on the circumstances. Put a man out in 0 gravity in outer space _(in a suit of course, we don’t want to kill him)_ and he’ll be able to fly by himself, but not walk. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/201 "2021-10-24T17:31:49Z")
You are changing the parameters a tad. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/202 "2021-10-24T17:48:24Z")
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