# Ganking makes Eve a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690 "2021-06-25T13:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 7:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/383 "2021-10-30T07:22:47Z")
It still has a motor to make the air hot. ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 9:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/384 "2021-10-30T09:51:15Z")
Tell me you wish you was right without telling me you wish you was right. It is not a motor XD ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/385 "2021-10-30T10:15:00Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/c/7/ac7b057176dd52afcebfc2489a2f14e44dcb62b3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/386 "2021-10-30T10:30:16Z")
Clearly the result of fitting a turbo to that motor. Gas ovens are motorised too. ---
**Author:** ![Veronique\_Schiller](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/veronique_schiller/32/351202_2.png) [@Veronique\_Schiller](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Veronique_Schiller)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/387 "2021-10-30T10:45:14Z")
I can kill a Hulk with a single catalyst, and harvest delicious and nutritious miner tears. 💖 ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 10:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/388 "2021-10-30T10:48:15Z")
I was just thinking of a bag of hot air that was in France. No idea why. ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/389 "2021-10-30T11:05:44Z")
First ever jet engine powered hot air balloon probably. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 11:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/390 "2021-10-30T11:40:54Z")
Simple burner, but it is still an engine. PS I have explained it enough to no longer bother, but do continue to be pedantic. PPS Yawn…, I am a Toulouse sausage, I make Cassoulet taste so much nicer. ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/391 "2021-10-30T11:52:42Z")
It isn’t motorised though. An engine yes, but it is not motorised. ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/392 "2021-10-30T12:44:29Z")
Im an engineer. A steam engine also is not motorised. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/393 "2021-10-30T18:11:17Z")
Some seriously silly comments here from gankers and their supporters… ‘AFK’ : Unless you previously worked for Stanford Research Institute and were hired by the CIA to do remote viewing…how the heck do you **know** someone is AFK ? Or is there some product one can by in the Eve marketplace that provides amazing psychic powers ? ‘Lazy’ Miners : Just because someone has not tanked up does not make them ‘lazy’. They may have worked out that the cost of fitting out a Venture, for example, with lots of shielding is just not worth it. Especially given that a Venture can return 2.5 times its original cost in ore in just one trip. Why spend 1m ISK on fitting out a 190K Venture with shielding. Even with a 40m ISK Procurer…you ‘can’ get it up to 80K EHP points…but that involves spending 70m ISK. Why spend almost 3 times the cost of the vessel on defence ? It’s really a question of the vessel cost, return on ore, and frequency of ganking. I can see why some decide no armour or shields is the more cost effective option ! ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/394 "2021-10-30T18:20:31Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > PvE only takes them out because the miners refuse to field sec forces or fight back. CONCORD is the consequence, not the goal. Yet another absurdly silly comment. Concord take out the gankers regardles…it has nothing to do with whether the miner ‘fights back’. And the idea that a Procurer, for example, can beat off half a dozen heavily armed Catalysts before being destroyed, using just drones ( as there are no available turrets left for weapons ) is crazy. At best it might take out one Catalyst before Concord show up anyway or it is destroyed. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/395 "2021-10-30T18:27:13Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Yet another absurdly silly comment. Concord take out the gankers regardles…it has nothing to do with whether the miner ‘fights back’. > > And the idea that a Procurer, for example, can beat off half a dozen heavily armed Catalysts before being destroyed, using just drones ( as there are no available turrets left for weapons ) is crazy. At best it might take out one Catalyst before Concord show up anyway or it is destroyed. You keep pushing this false narrative. Read the posts back. No one is saying a lone proc can take 6 catas. If you had a mining fleet of orca/5 procs with actual tank and the right boosts? That changes the story. Also the Halloween flag event applies to ganking as well 😃 Cause its PvP 😃 CCP has spoken. You can take your L and go sit down now. ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/396 "2021-10-30T18:46:08Z")
One of my many goals in New Eden is to kill Matard players while in Minmatar low sec space. They are all criminals. The easier to kill the better as well. I can do the lords work more efficiently for the betterment of the Empire. It’s a lot worse than that but one mustn’t reveal all their cards. ---
**Author:** ![Hans\_Devin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hans_devin/32/373511_2.png) [@Hans\_Devin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hans_Devin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/397 "2021-10-31T17:48:45Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > PvE only takes them out because the miners refuse to field sec forces or fight back. CONCORD is the consequence, not the goal. Lost your way I see. CONCORD takes out all capsuleer aggressors in hi sec not just those aggressing miners. You say “only” and you are wrong again. You chose the wrong reason CONCORD takes action and then you limited that choice to said wrong reason. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/398 "2021-10-31T19:50:59Z")
> [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](#): > > Minmatar low sec space. What’s wrong with minmater low sec , just the same as other low sec space . If you want your empire to prosper you should work on cleaning Abhazon of the infestation there, making a nice fast trade route for players to use , was there this morning why scouting and watched three faction and T2 cruisers killing endless shuttles pods and new players . People need to work together and make life hard for people , especially if they kill without mercy as some do . Btw what other systems got new Star gates added. ---
**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/399 "2021-10-31T20:05:58Z")
There’s plenty ill be doing, not just purging minmatar filth. Ill be practicing blops when i log on soon. Anyway you are an anti ganker. Ive been whinging about that gate needing clearing for a while. Dont make me leave a 1 star review on Glassdoor now XD ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/400 "2021-10-31T20:58:11Z")
> [@Hans\_Devin](#): > > Lost your way I see. CONCORD takes out all capsuleer aggressors in hi sec not just those aggressing miners. You say “only” and you are wrong again. You chose the wrong reason CONCORD takes action and then you limited that choice to said wrong reason. ROFL learn better reading comprehension my boy. I’m well aware they don’t only take out people attacking miners. Maybe re-read the whole conversation again? Embarrassing for you ROFL. Whose alt are you 😃 Her stance is that ganking is actually not PvP because CONCORD is PVE. But people don’t fight CONCORD. CONCORD is the consequence of PvP in high sec 😃 You tried bro. I also maybe feel English isn’t your first language? I can easily see how our vernacular confuses you. And if it is well, again you’ve just demonstrated why our education system is so bad 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/401 "2021-10-31T21:28:50Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You keep pushing this false narrative. Read the posts back. No one is saying a lone proc can take 6 catas. If you had a mining fleet of orca/5 procs with actual tank and the right boosts? That changes the story. The person who keeps twisting this way and that ( as Hans points out above ) is you. You have a whole series of goal posts that get moved to…one minute someone makes statement A, then 15 posts later you are claiming ‘nobody made statement A’ and making completely contradictory comments. That has been the entire substance of this thread. As a matter of fact Gerard DID state that a lone Proc could take on gankers. Its the gankers who cannot get their story together…one minute saying one thing and the next day saying something completely different. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/402 "2021-10-31T21:38:18Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > The person who keeps twisting this way and that ( as Hans points out above ) is you. You have a whole series of goal posts that get moved to…one minute someone makes statement A, then 15 posts later you are claiming ‘nobody made statement A’ and making completely contradictory comments. That has been the entire substance of this thread. > > As a matter of fact Gerard DID state that a lone Proc could take on gankers. > > Its the gankers who cannot get their story together…one minute saying one thing and the next day saying something completely different. Oh? Provide that proof son 😃 And it isn’t moving goal posts ROFL. Also I like how you dodged. The Halloween event includes ganking. CCP classifies it as PvP. Cry more please 😃 Your opinion is just that. An opinion The fact is, ganking is PvP. No matter what you try to spout otherwise. Funny how you malign flat earthers, yet you are basically the EVE equivalent to one. Interesting huh? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=19) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=21)