# Ganking makes Eve a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690 "2021-06-25T13:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 3:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/503 "2021-11-12T03:43:58Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You’ve been rroffed several times in this thread by several different people. No…they were on the way to the station with their roff and I ganked it. Sorry. The 12 ISK worth of scrap wasn’t worth collecting. I can’t be bothered arguing. It will be decided with antimatter and cunning in Eve. I already have a plan for a far more effective corporation than NEPF. See ya in-world. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/504 "2021-11-12T04:04:55Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > No…they were on the way to the station with their roff and I ganked it. Sorry. The 12 ISK worth of scrap wasn’t worth collecting. > > I can’t be bothered arguing. It will be decided with antimatter and cunning in Eve. I already have a plan for a far more effective corporation than NEPF. See ya in-world. Uh. Wut? What or who is NEPF? I mean Rroff is definitely not worth much yennoe? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 10:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/505 "2021-11-12T10:01:27Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > What or who is NEPF? New Eden Police Force. It’s what Githany is part of. I’ve seen vague rumours that Procurers may be given an extra high slot. Now that would balance things out a bit, as that slot could be used for a cloaking device, allowing barges to do cloak-MWD and get past gate camps more easily. I’m far from being the only one who thinks gate camping has gotten out of control in some regions. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/506 "2021-11-12T10:40:12Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > that slot could be used for a cloaking device, allowing barges to do cloak-MWD and get past gate camps more easily. Why cant you do that now? You can easily refit the mining laser when you get to your mining site of choice. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/507 "2021-11-12T19:25:17Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > New Eden Police Force. It’s what Githany is part of. > > I’ve seen vague rumours that Procurers may be given an extra high slot. Now that would balance things out a bit, as that slot could be used for a cloaking device, allowing barges to do cloak-MWD and get past gate camps more easily. > > I’m far from being the only one who thinks gate camping has gotten out of control in some regions. There is literally a safe path thru Uedama 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mandalf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mandalf/32/278086_2.png) [@Mandalf](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mandalf)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/508 "2021-11-14T17:26:44Z")
Good day citizens, Mandalf is back from vacation and pleased to see this thread still kicking. Push back, fight back, fly smart, and most of all have fun and look good doing it! -NEPF is happy to work with / learn from any other allies of justice, anti ganking, and industry. We would be honored to help escort haulers through risky systems, coordination and timing is usually the biggest hurdle for this. We have discussed what this might look like and welcome input from haulers and others. It is all about creating content and moving New Eden ever so slightly towards the light, in game and out. o7 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/509 "2021-11-15T07:11:17Z")
Make sure they pay you. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 8:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/510 "2021-11-15T08:34:51Z")
Not sure if I posted here but going to repeat the story .As we do try and protect miner’s, some of us thought we better give it a go , we picked a ganker sys to give it ago , numbers numbers went up and down in that time from 4 or 5 miners . We were just about to end the op when gankers attacked, I’m sure the gankers didn’t trust us and it was more of wanted to see what we had planned but all ships survived the ganker attack . Fun to do and we had voice chat to keep us going but anything in eve can be fun with the right people. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2021, 9:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/511 "2021-11-15T09:37:32Z")
The key is actually working together with peeps. This is the oldest way and apparently now the newest one as well. ---
**Author:** ![Ararma\_Hartel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ararma_hartel/32/300692_2.png) [@Ararma\_Hartel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ararma_Hartel)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/512 "2021-12-12T10:09:02Z")
> [@Mr\_Mordan](#): > > Never carry 200 Mil well they can show up during a mission then you have a second problem besides of npc ships … gankers doing it for fun and not loot ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 10:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/513 "2021-12-12T10:18:22Z")
> [@Ararma\_Hartel](#): > > well they can show up during a mission then you have a second problem besides of npc ships … gankers doing it for fun and not loot Not without combat probing you, so you should always, always know if there is any risk; and don’t sit still on the warp in point. It’s trivially easy to avoid being ganked running missions. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/514 "2021-12-12T16:55:40Z")
It has been confirmed, Ganking does indeed make Eve a better place. Anyone who disagrees will be ganked. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/5/b/1/5b1c0ec2bb430a6a8fac0a3f24028460afffd4e8.jpeg) Zaera Keena has spoken ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/515 "2021-12-13T15:25:49Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > In chess, if you run out of time, you lose the game. However, it’s obviously a PvP game. You wouldn’t call it PvE and try to claim the clock is your opponent. > > CONCORD is nothing more than a countdown timer. No, that’s not the reality of it. Ganking may have a clock you have to beat, but that clock actually _protects_ you prior to that countdown and prevents the other side making any effective level of proactive action. Ganking _relies_ on being protected one minute and outlaw the next. ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/516 "2021-12-13T15:32:32Z")
how does concord protect us but not the folk we gank, that makes no sense ? ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/517 "2021-12-13T15:39:03Z")
Hi Cilla, How does CONCORD protect a -10 flashy on its way to a gank? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/518 "2021-12-13T15:45:50Z")
> [@Aaaarrgg](#): > > how does concord protect us but not the folk we gank, that makes no sense ? You are protected from AG who know you are gankers. You are protected from proactive action to prevent the gank…as Concord will zap anyone who attacks you, even though you are yourself planning an attack. As for Concord protecting the gankee, you rely on the fact that this is not instant. ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/519 "2021-12-13T15:47:02Z")
so we can shoot the gankee fine, but you cant shoot us at all ? ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/520 "2021-12-13T15:50:55Z")
You are protected by Concord. They don’t exactly show enough intelligence to say ’ ah…its that bunch of gankers again, maybe we should do something about them '. Quite the reverse. Anyone proactively defending the gankee becomes the Condord target. The reactive nature of Concord is your defence. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/521 "2021-12-13T16:19:10Z")
Perhaps you should ask the three Safety. Ruptures in Sivala whether they are protected by CONCORD or not, They use tags to get CONCORD protection and of course the ability to lurk on gate without facpol reaction. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/522 "2021-12-13T16:21:43Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > You are protected by Concord. Hi Cilla, you may have missed my question among all the back and forth: How does CONCORD protect the professional -10 perma-flashy from interference by, well, anyone? Or did you mean something else? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=27)