# Ganking makes Eve a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690 "2021-06-25T13:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 27
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/523 "2021-12-13T16:24:23Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > They use tags to get CONCORD protection …Which are not cheap, Dracvlad, pushing up significantly the cost of a gank. Well, for those who gank for profit, at least. ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/524 "2021-12-13T16:30:30Z")
they have the same protection as everyone else, concord dont show favourites. they blap everyone equally. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/525 "2021-12-13T17:41:54Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Perhaps you should ask the three Safety. Ruptures in Sivala whether they are protected by CONCORD or not, They use tags to get CONCORD protection and of course the ability to lurk on gate without facpol reaction. I know I’m blocked, but your comments are so stupid I have to respond. So let me get this straight, ganker are over-powered, because CONCORD protects them? Right? So why don’t you just become a ganker, and then you can antigank with CONCORD protection? That’ll work, right? ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 7:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/526 "2021-12-13T19:48:51Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > You are protected from AG who know you are gankers. Nope, they can AGG. They can anti-gank gank 😃 Huh. You’re dodging Sasha’s question pretty hard. Which is already an answer. Tis a shame really. In addition to being a baby troll, you’re also a coward who won’t engage. I admit you were entertaining for a bit, but now its just kinda sad dude. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Perhaps you should ask the three Safety. Ruptures in Sivala whether they are protected by CONCORD or not, They use tags to get CONCORD protection and of course the ability to lurk on gate without facpol reaction. So then nut up and gank them 😃 You’d be stopping a threat and pulling CONCORD to gate, helping others get thru safely. Surely that’s worth a sec hit right? ---
**Author:** ![Maren\_Aya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/maren_aya/32/301547_2.png) [@Maren\_Aya](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Maren_Aya)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 2:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/527 "2021-12-20T02:00:49Z")
I think my EvE would be boring without a threat to my hauling. I like the danger and excitement of possibly being blown to high Amarr heaven. Forces me to really be alert and play the game. It’s a rush to make it thru Uedama and other spots successfully. If I die, it’s just a game and I laugh and go back at it. ---
**Author:** ![Wah\_Huren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wah_huren/32/394699_2.png) [@Wah\_Huren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wah_Huren)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 2:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/528 "2021-12-20T02:22:24Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Ganking does indeed make Eve a better place. Since its Pantomime Season:- Oh no it doesn’t… ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 6:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/529 "2021-12-20T06:03:42Z")
> [@Wah\_Huren](#): > > Since its Pantomime Season:- > Oh no it doesn’t… Blue proved that ganking reduces real world violence 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kial\_Riece](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kial_riece/32/295268_2.png) [@Kial\_Riece](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kial_Riece)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 6:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/530 "2021-12-20T06:39:21Z")
This. I have no issue with bumping except that it is risk free entirely. Even accidental ‘bumps’ should incur some kind of penalty. And from an immersion aspect…just how good are these shields that a machariel can ram you at 1500m/s and survive? No idea how you would implement it though. ‘Ramming’ would basically become the new suicide weapon of choice 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/531 "2021-12-20T07:20:31Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I know I’m blocked, but your comments are so stupid I have to respond. > > So let me get this straight, ganker are over-powered, because CONCORD protects them? Right? So why don’t you just become a ganker, and then you can antigank with CONCORD protection? That’ll work, right? I’m getting some “never finished college” vibes there, because unlike with most others who parrot this stuff to troll, in this case it feels like straight-up intellectual dishonesty, as if the person was never taught that intentionally making fallacies in arguments is a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/532 "2021-12-20T08:03:21Z")
I NEVER FINISHED COLLEGE OK FINE I GOT KNOCKED UP IN THE NINTH GRADE AND I HAVE THREE CHILDREN AND I LIVE IN THE KITCHEN WHERE IM BAREFOOT WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/533 "2021-12-20T08:28:59Z")
Wow, things must be _really_ rough after James passed away. I’ll be sure to send you a topically-irrelevant Hallmark greeting card and a $5 Dunkin Donuts card that I _think_ still has some money on it. Thoughts and prayers. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/534 "2021-12-20T10:15:18Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/2/a025a1547ee7e47f9ce4a95a572c36559f04d162.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Landeskog\_Salvo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/landeskog_salvo/32/387471_2.png) [@Landeskog\_Salvo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Landeskog_Salvo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/535 "2021-12-22T04:58:42Z")
I want an armed Hauler, Space Trucker with Rail cannons and Turrets … Oh so beautiful make it happen CCP. I just imagine in my head Scenes from games like Rebel Galaxy my DST broadsiding the Gankers as they try to bring me down… Damn that would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Landeskog\_Salvo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/landeskog_salvo/32/387471_2.png) [@Landeskog\_Salvo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Landeskog_Salvo)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/536 "2021-12-22T06:00:32Z")
A sandwich please, with mustard. ---
**Author:** ![Faylee\_Freir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/faylee_freir/32/439750_2.png) [@Faylee\_Freir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Faylee_Freir)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 4:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/537 "2021-12-23T04:03:46Z")
You know what will happen? Gankers will theorycraft a worst case scenario for the armed DST and it’s ability to remove gank ships from the field… and just bring more ganker to account for it. Either way you still die but congrats you killed 9m isk in catalysts! ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/538 "2021-12-23T16:21:09Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Hi Cilla, How does CONCORD protect a -10 flashy on its way to a gank? Er…why don’t they _all_ appear -10 and flashy in this video ? Of the 9 gankers in the fleet at 1.24 in the video, only two are showing red in the fleet chat. Huh ? you can see throughout that they are cruising through highsec space without any police interrupting… yet you claim they are -10 [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/d/d/fdded8520a5c3c87bfe2a0769b7a3c845e4e055d.jpeg "Safety Alliance: Eve Online's Premier Ganking Organization") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbHck4OcifU) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/539 "2021-12-23T16:50:55Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > they are cruising through highsec space without any police interrupting They are the police. ---
**Author:** ![Aaaarrgg](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aaaarrgg/32/395089_2.png) [@Aaaarrgg](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aaaarrgg)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/540 "2021-12-23T17:11:04Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Er…why don’t they _all_ appear -10 and flashy in this video ? Of the 9 gankers in the fleet at 1.24 in the video, only two are showing red in the fleet chat. Huh ? erm what ? lol i do hope you are trolling. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 5:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/541 "2021-12-23T17:14:51Z")
Of course, I’m aware that not _all_ gankers are -10, but your original claim was very sweeping, very dramatic. I was responding to that, Cilla. You claimed that ‘gankers’ were protected by CONCORD, not ‘some gankers’. Just a detail I wanted to correct, lest lesser folks become mislead. Isn’t that too many 'L’s? You can tell I haven’t been at the Christmas sherry yet! ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2021, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/542 "2021-12-23T17:59:36Z")
> [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](#): > > Of course, I’m aware that not _all_ gankers are -10, but your original claim was very sweeping, very dramatic. I was responding to that, Cilla. You claimed that ‘gankers’ were protected by CONCORD, not ‘some gankers’. No…I’m not the one twisting things every which way to suit a narrative. Saftey’s own video shows them merrily cruising around highsec without a care in the world…and only getting the ’ you are not welcome here ’ message after attacking someone. It was you who responded as if every ganker in highsec was -10 There’s a local ganker near my home base who has ganked twice in the past few weeks, yet his security status is still above 0. The tags are expensive, but I’d guess level 4 ratting in lowsec makes up the status again. I come across quite a few known gankers all with status above 0. I see them go flashy sometimes, but within a few days they are back again with good status. What’s more, even if most of the ganker ships themselves were -10…my assertion that Concord protects the gankers would still be true in that scouts and loot retrieval ships would not be. So the very ship that sets up the gank in the first place is doing so right under the nose of Concord, protected by them. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=26) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=28)