# Ganking makes Eve a better place

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [June 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690 "2021-06-25T13:45:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/684 "2022-04-03T16:34:13Z")

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> [@Leggone\_Stracks](#):
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> Mammoth with 5 T2 expandanded cargos - 26,640 m3

Well if I need to move stuff , would use a hecate with a sub 1 second warp for webbing a freighter or bring along a DST with 63k fleet hanger, a mwd and cloak.

You would bring a mammoth to the party? Sigh

[https://media0.giphy.com/media/3wUlzUPvXIfYc/giphy-downsized-large.gif(image larger than 4 MB)](https://media0.giphy.com/media/3wUlzUPvXIfYc/giphy-downsized-large.gif)

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/685 "2022-04-03T16:42:28Z")

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Everytime I’ve been gangked has literally been because i cba to do appropriate checks or i take risks because i cba to play safe. Yesterday i fitted a bs and knowingly flew it through about 8 low/null sec points to get to where i wanted to go rather than the safer route. Didn’t do appropriate checks, gate checks, peeks and safes, nothing. I accepted that i might get gangked becauseni cant be bothered before I’d even undocked. Also if you have enough isk then every less means absolutely fk all anyway.

If you look at my zkill, everytime I’ve been gangked has been my fault. I cant imagine it’s any different for anyone else except for smartbomb gatecamps. I still dont know how to counter that and probably cant be bothered either.

Im not a gangk sympathiser and i dont even take part in that side of the game until i get blown up. Sometimes it makes travel quicker anyway.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/686 "2022-04-03T16:46:32Z")

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> [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](#):
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> smartbomb gatecamps. I still dont know how to counter that

You can tank a ceptor to take a smart bomb hit, you can avoid bombs by warping to gate from a celestial body instead of gate to gate.

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/687 "2022-04-03T16:50:13Z")

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Oh i see.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/688 "2022-04-04T19:23:45Z")

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Find a celestial within 14 AU of your gate, hit that and then d-scan gate to see if there are peeps.

If no celestial well, warp in from a weird angle at 100km.

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**Author:** ![Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duella_cre_vil/32/297348_2.png) [@Duella\_Cre\_Vil](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duella_Cre_Vil)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/689 "2022-04-04T21:36:27Z")

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I will try that in a bit.

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**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 11:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/690 "2022-04-04T23:30:55Z")

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Perverted sadomasochism is strong with those ganker apologists.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/691 "2022-04-04T23:42:20Z")

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Huh. You take the space pixels rather serious huh?

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**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2022, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/692 "2022-04-04T23:48:03Z")

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Those who prey upon the weak must be punished. Might makes wrong.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/693 "2022-04-05T00:04:55Z")

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What makes them weak? Are they weak cause they got blapped?

Everyone gets blapped in EVE. Does that make everyone weak?

LOL. Stop with the terri-bad philosphy and moral grandstanding.

You’re playing an open world PvP MMO.

Get gud or get Stardew 😃

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 12:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/694 "2022-04-05T00:36:08Z")

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> [@Octavech\_Raholan](#):
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> Those who prey upon the weak must be punished. Might makes wrong.

But you’ll need might to punish them? So wouldn’t that make you a hypocrite?

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**Author:** ![Octavech\_Raholan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/octavech_raholan/32/373797_2.png) [@Octavech\_Raholan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Octavech_Raholan)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 2:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/695 "2022-04-05T02:24:48Z")

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Your sorts tend to brand every single acts of righteousness as “virtue signalling” and “moral grandstanding.” I am not surprised.

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**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/696 "2022-04-05T06:20:28Z")

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> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#):
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> Find a celestial within 14 AU of your gate, hit that and then d-scan gate to see if there are peeps.
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> If no celestial well, warp in from a weird angle at 100km.

There is another method…which is to deliberately get capacitor low so that warping wont reach as far as the gate.

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2022, 6:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/697 "2022-04-05T06:30:08Z")

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> [@Octavech\_Raholan](#):
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> Your sorts tend to brand every single acts of righteousness as “virtue signalling” and “moral grandstanding.” I am not surprised.

Uh. What sort? And how is it righteousness? You’re literally playing a PvP game LOL.

Please tell me you’re RPing LOL.

> [@Altara\_Zemara](#):
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> There is another method…which is to deliberately get capacitor low so that warping wont reach as far as the gate.

Yea, not as reliable tho.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/698 "2022-04-06T13:35:48Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> But you’ll need might to punish them

If you cry alot, will make them feel bad. Really.

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/d/1/dd11e4293a3181915b8d0b8cfd5eedcd7b35ded8.gif)

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**Author:** ![Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capt_n_nemo/32/314549_2.png) [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capt_n_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/699 "2022-04-06T14:23:24Z")

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> [@Yengwayo\_Zembutoo](#):
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> As soon as I read the opening paragraph, why should anyone care to read further, tells me everything I need to know, selfish, “I love” the one way check valve thinking that never cares about anyone else but their own pleasures.
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> One thing is abundantly clear in every post like yours, no one else matters, only your pleasure

That’s exactly what I thought when started reading OP. Didn’t read further. The responses are more interesting than the original post.

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**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 9:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/700 "2022-04-06T21:38:03Z")

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> [@Yengwayo\_Zembutoo](#):
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> no one else matters, only your pleasure

Welcome to my Pleasure Dome

![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/7/c/c7c2f99abea66e5d4f04a30dd0b7009b75af2b24.gif)

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**Author:** ![Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capt_n_nemo/32/314549_2.png) [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capt_n_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/701 "2022-04-06T21:58:10Z")

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What’s a “pleasure dome” ? And does it have to be a dome?

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**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/702 "2022-04-07T06:26:21Z")

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‘In Xanadu did Kubla Khan  
A stately pleasure dome decree…’

After that, my memory fails…

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**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 7:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/703 "2022-04-07T07:21:27Z")

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I do think Ganking is low risk high reward for HS probably needs adjusting to make it more risk for the ganker.

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