# Ganking makes Eve a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690 "2021-06-25T13:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 37
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/724 "2022-04-07T18:57:13Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > some ppl just don’t understand. it is ok Yes. Case in point 😃 > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > gankers don’t care if they get shot at, they usually biomass there toon and create a fresh one Ah so we’re pushing this false narrative today. Interesting 😃 > [@Yumi\_Saffron](#): > > nowadays i just dont fly anything above T1 destroyer with T2 mods at best, ganking problem solved. > The game is starting to bet boring really fast to… Oof. That’s on you bruv 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2022, 11:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/725 "2022-04-07T23:50:52Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > gankers don’t care if they get shot at, they usually biomass there toon and create a fresh one A couple of people have now commented on this statement. Could you please elaborate and tell me more? I’d also like to get clarification on how you know that gankers do this? Are you a ganker? Do you have friends in game that are gankers? What’s the basis for this comment? Evidence? ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/726 "2022-04-08T01:14:35Z")
well it pretty simple, you know that refer link that give a new toon 1 mil sp, using that and creating a new toon you can be ganking in a thrasher or catalyst in a few mins. so when that toons security status is to low he deletes that account and starts over. A Friend told me how they do it in code. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 1:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/727 "2022-04-08T01:59:20Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > A Friend told me You know a guy? _cue Ocean’s Eleven reference_ Uh huh. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/728 "2022-04-08T11:00:57Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > well it pretty simple, you know that refer link that give a new toon 1 mil sp, using that and creating a new toon you can be ganking in a thrasher or catalyst in a few mins. so when that toons security status is to low he deletes that account and starts over. > > A Friend told me how they do it in code. Yah, that’s how my friend in code does it. I do it now with all of my accounts, I usually get about a dozen ganks, maybe less if I shoot capsules, and then I’m on to a new character. It really sucks when you forget to contract all your loot before you biomass. Oh well. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/729 "2022-04-08T16:23:17Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I usually get about a dozen ganks, maybe less if I shoot capsules, and then I’m on to a new character. I don’t understand why, if your characters are all -10 and got nothing to lose anyway. Is there something that makes it necessary ? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/730 "2022-04-08T17:45:44Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > if your characters are all -10 and got nothing to lose Aiko has the perfect security rating. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/3/5/035d5da2216ad13947c0cd2b8069a77ff144cc96.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/731 "2022-04-08T19:17:04Z")
ya I think the local police pop ya so its kind of hard to gank in a pod ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/732 "2022-04-08T20:09:57Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I don’t understand why, if your characters are all -10 and got nothing to lose anyway. Is there something that makes it necessary ? She’s being sarcastic. Most don’t go thru the rigmarole of recycling chars. The dude is pushing a false narrative. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/733 "2022-04-09T00:17:21Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > Most don’t go thru the rigmarole of recycling chars. I’ve literally never ever ever met a ganker, or heard of a ganker, who does this. Never, not once, it’s just some nonsense carebear antiganker myth. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/734 "2022-04-09T00:22:33Z")
Very true haha. Ganking does make EVE better tho. If only people truly taught the newbs these days. But honestly, its like the 5-7 yr crowd that seems to be getting ganked the most. They don’t got any excuse LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/735 "2022-04-09T00:24:29Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > so when that toons security status is to low he deletes that account and starts over. So if this is true, why do ganking fleets hang off station tethers while blinking angry red -10? ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/736 "2022-04-09T03:51:34Z")
they haven’t ganked enough, and there standing with local police is high enough they don’t get ganked when they undock a ship themselves by the police. ---
**Author:** ![DrysonBennington](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/drysonbennington/32/501369_2.png) [@DrysonBennington](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DrysonBennington)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/737 "2022-04-09T04:04:53Z")
[BlackSnowX86](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BlackSnowX86) Industrial Jump Portal Generator I Blueprint NOT SEEDED cmon AGAIN CCPlease How much do you think that freighter is hauling? Who is BlackSnow hauling for? ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/738 "2022-04-09T04:52:55Z")
So, at what security status does it require for faction police to come after you? ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 5:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/739 "2022-04-09T05:11:14Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/8/5/8/858560709c67335777dfbc252fbe42f4e9a76ad1.png) ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 5:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/740 "2022-04-09T05:19:10Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > gankers don’t care if they get shot at, they usually biomass there toon and create a fresh one This is a claim that we’ve seen made many times over the years, and it’s actually possible to do a bit of a litmus test on it to see if it’s true. When a character is biomassed, attempts to obtain their public information returns a 404 error from the ESI (and just to close out characters recently biomassed, it’s also possible to check for their corporation\_id being 1000001 - which is Doomheim). I just pulled 6000 ganks (2000 x CODE., 2000 x Safety., 2000 x Novus Ordo.), pulled the character\_id of each attacker on the kills and then pulled their public character information. Results: | Alliance | Unique Characters on last 2000 ganks | Number Biomassed | Biomassed character\_ids | | --- | --- | --- | --- | | CODE. | 367 | 2 | [2119040129](https://esi.evetech.net/latest/characters/2119040129/?datasource=tranquility), [2117594998](https://esi.evetech.net/latest/characters/2117594998/?datasource=tranquility) | | Safety. | 944 | 0 | | | Novus Odro. | 229 | 1 | [2119989410](https://esi.evetech.net/latest/characters/2119989410/?datasource=tranquility) | Of the 1540 characters, only 3 biomassed. ---
**Author:** ![Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ax_l_thorne/32/412835_2.png) [@Ax\_l\_Thorne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ax_l_Thorne)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/741 "2022-04-09T05:23:42Z")
So, if gankers biomass at -5.0, then why are most gankers -10? As a ganker myself, I think it’s time that I stop leading you on. It’s been quite entertaining to see how much of your knowledge on ganker business is total BS and nonsense. Which is about 99% Nice try tho. ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 5:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/742 "2022-04-09T05:31:31Z")
well it is possible that they just don’t log into them instead of biomassing them but if you look at say code KB [Safety. | Alliance | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99010569/) and pull some of the names and do a ingame search on there character alot of them are not very old. ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/743 "2022-04-09T05:32:19Z")
2 different standings both effected by ganking. killing pods in HS will Tank your Faction Standing [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=36) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=38)