# Ganking makes Eve a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690 "2021-06-25T13:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/744 "2022-04-09T05:48:42Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > well it is possible that they just don’t log into them instead of biomassing Which is it? > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > they usually biomass there toon and create a fresh one Do they usually biomass or not? Clearly not. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > but if you look at say code KB [Safety. | Alliance | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99010569/) and pull some of the names and do a ingame search on there character alot of them are not very old I have pulled them (see my previous post). Have you pulled them and actually analysed the data? If so, where’s the results? ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 5:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/745 "2022-04-09T05:54:59Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Which is it? both > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Do they usually biomass or not? both > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > I have pulled them (see my previous post). > > Have you pulled them and actually analysed the data? If so, where’s the results? i did and link the kb and told you what to look at. im not going to post there data per toon cause thats just not right to do. I’ll just point you to the direction to do it yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/746 "2022-04-09T05:58:25Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > im not going to post there data per toon cause thats just not right to do. No, you can’t post it because you haven’t actually done any analysis. Just throwing around stupid statements that you haven’t validated. It’s the thing we see all the time in the forum. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > i did and link the kb and told you what to look at. I’ve already looked at it. It doesn’t support what you are claiming. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > both Lol. 3 characters of 1540. No, they don’t usually biomass (and I’m surprised by how few gank characters are biomassed. I was expecting it to be more than it is). ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/747 "2022-04-09T06:02:02Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > No, you can’t post it because you haven’t actually done any analysis. Just throwing around stupid statements that you haven’t validated. It’s the thing we see all the time in the forum. i said, my data set you must pull data your self and it is per character and im not blasting toons info that are not in this covo. that is ethically not right to do. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > well it is possible that they just don’t log into them instead of biomassing them but if you look at say code KB [Safety. | Alliance | zKillboard](https://zkillboard.com/alliance/99010569/) and pull some of the names and do a ingame search on there character alot of them are not very old. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 6:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/748 "2022-04-09T06:06:08Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > i said, my data set you must pull data your self and it is per character and im not blasting toons info that are not in this covo. that is ethically not right to do. How much data did you pull? I just pulled data on 1537 (3 that are biomassed and we can’t get the birthdate to compare to the time of kill on their kills). You don’t need to post individual characrers (which would be pointless anyway with the number of characters being that large). Even the summary data from your analysis. What percentage fall into this category for example. Should be easy to post if you’ve actually done any analysis and aren’t just mouth breathing on the keyboard: > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > there character alot of them are not very old ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/749 "2022-04-09T06:09:46Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > i did and link the kb and told you what to look at. **im not going to post there data** per toon cause thats just not right to do. I’ll just point you to the direction to **do it yourself.** Wow, stupid scrub Scipio got 🔥 🎆 🔥 _ **O** _ ⚡ _ **W** _ ⭐ _ **N** _ ⭐ _ **E** _ ⚡ _ **D** _ 🔥 🎆 🔥 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/a/a/daa22e80a22271f9f87e5afb646ebf60785730f6.png) ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capt_n_nemo/32/314549_2.png) [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capt_n_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 10:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/750 "2022-04-09T10:14:08Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > If only people truly taught the newbs these days You mean instead of making fun of them and throwing snide remarks at them in the forum? What a novel idea. ---
**Author:** ![Apo\_Bong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/apo_bong/32/512751_2.png) [@Apo\_Bong](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Apo_Bong)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/751 "2022-04-09T10:47:46Z")
I still don’t understand what the (imagined) benefit would be to biosmass your ganking DPS. You want 1x skillfarm on your account and the other characters skilled into something useful. Training a new DPS would cost money & time. (Plex for 30days, eventual training certificate etc.) Nevermind that you would never be able to fly all the relevant ganking ships, maximized dps. Never Talos/Nado lol. Go que up PG/CPU management, weapons upgrades, the ships skills, guns, rigs etc. And for what? Because Mr highsec-carebear can’t imagine people just buy security tags if they do some activity that requires +sec status. ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/752 "2022-04-09T11:06:21Z")
because of the loot for there non ganking main toon, low risk high reward content. but bad for player retention. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/capt_n_nemo/32/314549_2.png) [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Capt_n_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/753 "2022-04-09T11:29:30Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > because of the loot for there non ganking main toon, low risk high reward content If it’s such a great scheme you might as well do it. I don’t think it’s bad, what’s bad for player retention is to broadcast ( definition of propaganda ) the notion that EVE is unfair to new players while it’s exactly the opposite. New players have the chance to start as Alpha clone, play the game for free while they figure out if they like it and/or learn its myriad of mechanics, getting free ships for completing missions, rewards for logging in, free SP and fitted ships for those in households with extra cash to spend on entertainment, a community that is ready to give advice and help in ways I didn’t expect like giving free ships, gifting isk, explaining what went wrong after a gank… I’ve played lots of games in the past 5 years but EVE is the only place where the community is unique to a point where players keep logging in for the social part of the game. Seems to me that those who point to player retention to support their false notions of the game are only using it to say "… or else I quit " instead of just making up their mind whether to uninstall and move on or keep at it. What difference does it make? ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/754 "2022-04-09T11:49:39Z")
> [@Capt\_n\_Nemo](#): > > explaining what went wrong after a gank have you ever been ripped off by a person or company, does that make you want to deal with that person or company afterward. when a person gets ganked he or she get those feelings and maybe some stay and some go. but this is a mmo and the more player the better the game and since we are at 2006 player numbers we really need to keep as many players possible ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 11:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/755 "2022-04-09T11:56:42Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > I’m surprised by how few gank characters are biomassed. I’m not surprised at all. Gankers don’t biomass, that’s for miners. ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/756 "2022-04-09T12:00:15Z")
in all honesty they really don’t have to biomass to create a new toon and never log into the old one. maybe to keep a low profile. but ccp can always follow the loot since each piece of loot has its own tag id number so if the loot ends up from different toons to the main they can traced the culprit. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/757 "2022-04-09T12:00:53Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > in all honesty You don’t know what you are talking about. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > ccp can always follow the loot I’ll save you the trouble. I’m the center of Highsec. The loot flows to me. ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/758 "2022-04-09T12:04:45Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > You don’t know what you are talking about. your secret is out, don’t be scared to admitted it. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/759 "2022-04-09T12:09:38Z")
> [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > your secret is out, don’t be scared to admit Ok, u got me. Everyone in my alliance (CODE. is obviously my alliance) we are all griefers who hack the game, use illegal Soviet era bot scripts, engage in griefing style gameplay which violates the EULA, operate multiple alpha account gankers simultaneously, and we always either biomass our characters or create new ones in order to keep ganking. We are also really really bad at the game and bad at PvP even though we dunk people out of the game and are killing EvE by killing everyone and we don’t make money cuz ganking is for losers but we are making way too much money with free easy ganking. Please do not make a forum post about this or CCP will investigate and ban me (even though I am a disposable Goon alt). ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/760 "2022-04-09T12:11:47Z")
Thanks for confessing for you SIN’s ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/761 "2022-04-09T12:12:30Z")
Is CCP gonna ban me now? FOLLOW THE LOOT 💰 👸 💰 ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/762 "2022-04-09T12:37:11Z")
That is teaching them 😃 We’re playing EVE bruv, not Stardew. _cue Denzel speech from Remember the Titans_ > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > because of the loot for there non ganking main toon, low risk high reward content. but bad for player retention. You are talking nonsense bruv. You love these false narratives huh? > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > have you ever been ripped off by a person or company, does that make you want to deal with that person or company afterward. Cept this is a game. If you get ripped off or killed, someone out played you 😃 It is not the same LOL. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > in all honesty they really don’t have to biomass to create a new toon and never log into the old one. maybe to keep a low profile. Man those goal posts keep moving eh? > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > your secret is out, don’t be scared to admitted it. My guy, you’ve already been proven shatteringly wrong LOL. > [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](#): > > Thanks for confessing for you SIN’s I wanna believe you know she’s being sarcastic and joking. And yet… I have this bad feeling you literally believe her. It makes me laugh and yet I also feel incredibly sad for you bruv. ---
**Author:** ![Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abigail_rocker_ronuken/32/242092_2.png) [@Abigail\_Rocker\_Ronuken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abigail_Rocker_Ronuken)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2022, 12:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/763 "2022-04-09T12:42:24Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > You are talking nonsense bruv. You love these false narratives huh? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/f/2/bf27043a93ed0eda604b840d98d71e17f23a7898.png) > **[EVE-Offline :: EVE-Online Status monitor](https://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility)** the data is there you have to be willing to look at it [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=37) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=39)