# Ganking makes Eve a better place **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [June 25, 2021, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690 "2021-06-25T13:45:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 4:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/123 "2021-09-19T04:48:57Z")
and where do you see yourself going from here? where do you see yourself in… 5? 10 years? ---
**Author:** ![Grey\_Ignis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grey_ignis/32/429686_2.png) [@Grey\_Ignis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grey_Ignis)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 5:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/124 "2021-09-19T05:07:30Z")
Hopefully with kids and a family of my own and not repeating the mistakes of my family. And some dank ships in Eve ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 6:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/125 "2021-09-19T06:16:46Z")
Not sure I understand what you mean . These people are not a good thing, grand tacticians, super spies, theory crafter’s I’m sure all have there place but give me boots on the ground any day ---
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/126 "2021-09-19T12:34:28Z")
that is a healthy goal. do you consider yourself ready to have children and raise them? ---
**Author:** ![Grey\_Ignis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grey_ignis/32/429686_2.png) [@Grey\_Ignis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grey_Ignis)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 2:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/127 "2021-09-19T14:35:05Z")
Absolutely not. I’m far too young for that and still in college. That’s a few years off ---
**Author:** ![Tarsas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarsas/32/289693_2.png) [@Tarsas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarsas)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 10:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/128 "2021-09-19T22:58:36Z")
Sounds like you have you’re head screwed on straight and you’re walking in the right direction. Keep it up! ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/129 "2021-09-19T23:36:06Z")
I remember during PLEX4GOOD for the Philippines, it was only the gankers who were doing “GANK4GOOD”, raising thousands. Didn’t see anyone doing “MINE4GOOD” or “MISSIONS4GOOD”. Gankers are the good guys. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 2:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/130 "2021-09-20T02:49:35Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > Didn’t see anyone doing “MINE4GOOD” or “MISSIONS4GOOD” They were too busy being VICTIMS4GOOD. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/131 "2021-09-20T11:13:07Z")
maybe we can have @Nadia_Bulkalov as the new life coach and counsellor for Crime & Punishment ---
**Author:** ![Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nadia_bulkalov/32/289063_2.png) [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nadia_Bulkalov)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/132 "2021-09-20T11:34:15Z")
And what would you consider an appropriate age to start a family? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/133 "2021-09-20T12:18:10Z")
I make some seriously off topic comments but thats an award winner right there ---
**Author:** ![Grey\_Ignis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/grey_ignis/32/429686_2.png) [@Grey\_Ignis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Grey_Ignis)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/134 "2021-09-20T19:45:36Z")
Whatever age I make enough money to support a family, and have reached enough emotional maturity where I can not just fully deal with my issues but create another human being and make sure that they’re well rounded and a capable future citizen, and where I can love them even if they may have traits that I personally don’t like, but don’t make them a bad person. When I have the patience to deal with all of the quirks and idiosyncrasies that another small human has. I could go on and on. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/135 "2021-09-20T20:01:18Z")
I could do with some of your tharapy when you are free. a miner killed my LOKI with the help of a Concord Police Captain. I am having trouble coming to terms with the loss. Can you help? ---
**Author:** ![Complex\_Math](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/complex_math/32/378387_2.png) [@Complex\_Math](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Complex_Math)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/136 "2021-09-21T01:01:20Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > a miner killed my LOKI with the help of a Concord Police Captain I decided to check zkill, and you weren’t kidding. What happened? Did you mis-click while having safety off? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2021, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/137 "2021-09-21T10:10:10Z")
Had a blonde moment, thought I was in low sec. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/3/a/03afdc88008ea1850d1934864db9a99176cf2e38.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Tarsas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tarsas/32/289693_2.png) [@Tarsas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tarsas)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/138 "2021-09-23T15:24:40Z")
I’m sure it was the highlight of that miner’s week! ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/139 "2021-09-23T18:23:24Z")
Well I guess I went one better than my alt who didn’t realise friendly fire was set to off > **[Rapier | Revenge 1 | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/92338735/)** > > Revenge 1 (Mortis Angelus) lost their Rapier in Maurasi (The Forge) Total Value: 447,595,690.97 ISK ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/140 "2021-10-08T19:31:09Z")
> [@Zhalyd\_Lyehin](#): > > That’s futile. Since you cannot go around Uedama to go to literally 90% of the rest of high sec with a freighter, there is no other choice unless you want to spend hours trying to find a direct HS-HS wormhole. There are ways 😃 > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Abyssal runners (the blinged ones) **deserve** to die. It’s 100% safety instanced PvE content. If you’re going to save those players (and especially make them seem like _victims_), the AG movement is going to shift from “white-knight villain counter-play movement” status to “actively hurting the health of the game” status. > > Think about what you’re doing. Oh don’t worry. The Abyss is the ultimate ganker LOL. > [@WeightLifting\_Nerd](#): > > it’s the defenseless that gankers hunt for, not a fight. > Highsec gankers can’t pvp, which is why they’re in highsec looking for defenseless people, You mean peeps who don’t know how to fit a ship or use F10 or zkills? Got it. > [@Ridley\_Rohan](#): > > This game, and forum too, have a serious issue regarding informed consent with regard to sadistic and predatory practices. You mean working as intended PvP? > [@Natalie\_Patrovita](#): > > Ganking makes EVE a cruel place. There is no playing EVE to get away from the cruelty of the real world, if anything, it brings it in sharp relief. Or fit a tank, learn to F10 and gather intel kthx. > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > our forever war will continue I hope it does as this is player generated content. > [@QuakeGod](#): > > You didn’t change anything. 20 billion ISK worth of freighters have been ganked in Uedama so far today. 40 billion ISK worth of freighters were ganked yesterday, and so on, and so forth… LOL at least they are trying and making the game better in the process. So is Aiko. Both sides are generating game content. Cry more bro. > [@Nadia\_Bulkalov](#): > > you are clearly an psychopath. you should intern yourself in! Shh no one cares. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/141 "2021-10-13T04:35:31Z")
" Ganking makes Eve a better place" That’s too general a statement. There’s different kinds of ganking. I’d say ganking some capsuleer who’s been in Eve 10 years and carelessly transporting 500 Billion ISK worth of blueprints in a shuttle is quite legitimate profiteering and nicely reflects the darker side of Eve. As long as there’s genuine profit in it…I don’t have a problem with ganking. If I’m ever ganked…I want the ganker to make a nice profit out of it. Where I think ganking oversteps the mark is when you get a squad of 15 blowing to bits some 2 day old noob in a Venture just for the ‘LOL’ factor. There’s zero profit, in fact probably loss. In fact even with a Procurer ( around 40m ISK ) any profit is probably tiny. OK so people do it for the ‘kills’, but what kind of an ‘achievement’ is it to brag about when 15 Catalysts KO a 2 day old noob ? Or have I just not heard about all the Eve Medal Of Honour handouts for this astonishing gallantry ? They say there is honour among thieves. Well, if there was then I think noobs would be given a break while they learn the ropes. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 4:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690/142 "2021-10-13T04:58:13Z")
The problem with your opening post ( which in general I agree with ) is that you have the retrospective hindsight of much knowledge and that’s something that tends to blur how one would oneself have responded to being ganked early on in Eve. Most people joining Eve have never heard of ganking. They’re just here to check it all out…see what this ‘space game’ is all about. Some argue that getting blown to bits by a horde of 15 gankers shows them. I disagree. It’s akin to playing Half Life and meeting Nihilanth in the first minute when all you have is a crowbar. The point is not whether it is ‘fair’ or not, but that the game is already hard enough to learn and probably only 10% survive the first few weeks. It doesn’t ‘need’ to be made harder. So I’d 100% agree with your post, in relation to careless old timers, whilst I can fully understand why for a noob a gank might just be the last straw in what’s already a tough learning curve. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-makes-eve-a-better-place/317690.md?page=8)