# Ganking, or rather the Right to Gank **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [September 7, 2018, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482 "2018-09-07T13:45:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/430 "2018-09-26T15:52:47Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Satisfied now with the misuse of the reporting tool. I didn’t report anything But you sure did when it came to @Ramona_McCandless 's posts Don’t you think it’s ironic that you can report, but not others? 😅 Also, if you don’t have the guts to own the things you post, don’t post at all ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/431 "2018-09-26T15:59:19Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Satisfied now with the misuse of the reporting tool. @Ramona_McCandless Im not suprised you are, you misused it pretty heavily to troll this thread into the dirt. I only made 2 mistakes; thinking you actually wanted a conversation, and replying to you after it was clear you just wanted to argue. (See “winning” a discussion, which isnt a thing btw) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/432 "2018-09-26T16:00:02Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/433 "2018-09-26T16:00:36Z")
Again with the woe is you. Man up and stop it ffs. No one is amused by your antics. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/434 "2018-09-26T16:03:33Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/435 "2018-09-26T16:04:22Z")
Then stop replying and tagging me. You are only doing it for a rise. Which is trolling. So please. Pretty please. Wind your neck in. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/436 "2018-09-26T16:09:43Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Then stop replying and tagging me. > You are only doing it for a rise. Which is trolling. > So please. > Pretty please. > > Wind your neck in. You and others decided to play your stupid game with the flag, it back fired. Live with it. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/437 "2018-09-26T16:11:08Z")
The backtracking is real Wow ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/438 "2018-09-26T16:13:45Z")
You started on me, so live with it. I reported your trolling when it was clear you werent going to actually have a discussion. You claim others derail troll and play the victim, but even whenI went out of my way to offer an olive branch, you had to be a dick to me about it. And the funniest thing about it all? Im not even a ganker, you just assumed that I was. Ffs dude, you need to take that chip off your shoulder and learn to relax now and again. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/439 "2018-09-26T16:17:23Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Im not even a ganker, you just assumed that I was. I know you are not a ganker, I never said you were. I did not have you down as a ganker, you suck up to them a bit but nope not a ganker. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Ffs dude, you need to take that chip off your shoulder and learn to relax now and again. If you want to start censoring live with the consequences of a thread with missing posts, it is what you wanted isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/440 "2018-09-26T16:17:56Z")
What consequences? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/441 "2018-09-26T16:19:09Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I know you are not a ganker, I never said you were. Well you did, but youve made a handy edit now havent you. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/442 "2018-09-26T16:21:18Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > handy edit Dracvlad the impulsive poster in a nutshell ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/443 "2018-09-26T16:22:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > it is what you wanted isn’t it? Nope, I wanted to have a discussion about ganking and see why you “sucked up” to use your words, to the people who cry for the game to have less conflict in it. You started the flagging and that left me little choice but to reciprocate. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/444 "2018-09-26T16:22:44Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Then stop replying and tagging me. You can turn that off, I have for you! > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Nope, I wanted to have a discussion about ganking and see why you “sucked up” to use your words, to the people who cry for the game to have less conflict in it. You started the flagging and that left me little choice but to reciprocate. The victim card again, you flagged me after I asked you to stop trolling. Stop being a man child. My previous experiences with you had resulted in me marking you well and truly as a troll, however in the October update thread I explained to you the impacts of the ECM changes, the one thing I missed out on was the Griffin NI but as I have never flown that I left that to others. You understood where I was coming from and you changed your mind. So at that point I thought maybe you are OK. You asked what looked to be a question about people in AG calling Knowledgeminer a CODE plant in this thread which was offtopic by the way, so believing that I could talk to you I attempted to explain the issue around him [here](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/333) You replied with this: > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > m not sure swearing at him while he asks the intel channel to be kept clear of everything but intel is just “having fun”, but I could see how it might qualify from one perspective. And I replied with this: > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am talking about the issues in the AG chat channel not the AG intel channel, where he is totally in the right for telling people to keep it to intel only. Did you not even read what I wrote, it does not look like it? > > The AG Chat Channel is not the AG Intel channel. I only open the AG intel channel when in hisec, so have not seen any of those events, but if I did I would be backing him there. And then you came out with this: > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Without looking to have an argument, I was thinking that about your responses too, sorry. But I guess Ive picked you up wrong, **you just seem to be saying that those who make it difficult to do anything are just having fun**. Doesnt seem fun for him. Its ok, if you just want an argument, Ill leave you to those who do want one with you. And I have bolded the troll part, no idea where you pulled that idea out of. Anyway I have you marked as a troll and your flagging of posts like this has confirmed it beyond any doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/445 "2018-09-26T16:42:46Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > The victim card again, you flagged me after I asked you to stop trolling It took you that long to formulate another “No you” reply? Seriously what part of you not trolling is this supposed to be? ---
**Author:** ![Mai\_Hantaka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mai_hantaka/32/474180_2.png) [@Mai\_Hantaka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mai_Hantaka)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/446 "2018-09-26T16:51:27Z")
Once again this thread highlighst that AG seems to attract people who - for various reasons - have great difficulty to play nice with others or even listen to advice. My experience with various gank groups is that they are very welcoming of recruits. The fleet style is relaxed and usually accessible to low skilled characters. Small wonder than that one group endures while the other group wanders off in search of better companionship (even preferring Netflix over their fellow AGs). I know of several AG players who made the transition from the toxic AG environment to happy ganker land, but none of them ever said: I miss my buddies from AG, I’ll go back to doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Annah\_Tsero](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/annah_tsero/32/96572_2.png) [@Annah\_Tsero](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Annah_Tsero)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/447 "2018-09-26T16:53:34Z")
The Dracvlad edit train is still going strong lmao Talk about not owning your own words and actions @Dracvlad ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/448 "2018-09-26T16:56:27Z")
And they frolic with unicorns as well. 🙄 Always playing the victims, such sad little lambs. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482/450 "2018-09-26T17:57:39Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > > What a surprise, people who play the game are more likely to stay than those that don’t. > > What? > [@Lucas\_Kell](#): > > I’m not really sure what confused you about that. Really? Well, okay I suppose. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482.md?page=18) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/ganking-or-rather-the-right-to-gank/104482.md?page=20)