# Getting bumped in a freight highsec should make the bumper flagged **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636 "2019-03-03T17:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Demerius\_Xenocratus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demerius_xenocratus/32/131592_2.png) [@Demerius\_Xenocratus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Demerius_Xenocratus)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/346 "2019-04-30T21:36:11Z")
They can’t help unless they have prestaged gank ships, because aggression-free tackle. Which shouldn’t be a thing. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/347 "2019-04-30T21:39:07Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > and where do you find such friends? LOL Drac asks himself this every day. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 9:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/348 "2019-04-30T21:39:09Z")
> [@Demerius\_Xenocratus](#): > > They can’t help unless they have prestaged gank ships Of course a neighbour hood watch has prestaged ganking ships, otherwise it would be a pretty useless neighbourhood watch. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/349 "2019-05-01T00:30:42Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Australian Excellence was having trouble to get interested for anything other than a JF and people were not giving him easy kills Lol you’re so dumb and dishonest. Do you even play other games? Ones that are actually fun or do you just cry about code all day? You’d make the same argument when the games down to 2k players saying it’s because they’re not giving me easy kills 🤣 > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > > and where do you find such friends? > > LOL Drac asks himself this every day. He’s so toxic that even a group as pathetic as antigankers don’t want to be his friend anymore ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 4:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/350 "2019-05-01T04:24:34Z")
> [@Demerius\_Xenocratus](#): > > it doesn’t make sense to be able to permatackle There’s no such thing as a permatackle, there’s only an “i got totally outplayed” tackle. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 6:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/351 "2019-05-01T06:44:54Z")
> [@Demerius\_Xenocratus](#): > > it’s against the principles of eve to be able to, in essence, permanently warp disrupt a capital ship from behind Concord protection. Needs source. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 7:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/352 "2019-05-01T07:07:01Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Nonononono. No! It does not need two or three characters. FIRST and foremost it requires ONE friend who webs you into warp! That’s the number one thing a freighter pilot should have! You can not claim that every single freighter pilot, who got bumped and ganked, could not have potentially been saved by having a webbing friend. > > You can claim that **some** freighter pilots could not be saved by their webbing friend, but you can not claim that **all** could not be saved, which means that **one does not need two or three friends to survive a freighter gank**. What are you talking about, webbing does absolutely nothing when you are bumped, do you even know what you are talking about here. I repeat, webbing does nothing when you are bumped. Typical deflection in fact, I said what you need to do to end the bump you replied with something to avoid a bump. seriously… > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Watch out that you don’t mislead yourself. It’s not the same people who got more intense and angry, it’s new people who already were more intense and angry, who didn’t give a ■■■■ about their own words and promises. Literal assholes. Contempt towards other people means that you don’t give a damn whether you have honour with them or not. It is a statement of what I have observed. > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Fair! Then you can still pay others! Red Frog’s tendency to not die is quite … normal, actually. The vast majority of freighter pilots don’t explode! > > What’s the problem here? The question is still there, what do you do if you cannot separate it into different parts. Paying someone to do it is an option but is that the only option? > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Yeap. Still, people complain about a non-issue affecting only a small subgroup of people (those who get bumped) in the group of people who fly freighters, who in general do not get ganked. It is really problematic that everyone is always only looking at the victims, ignoring the 99% who aren’t victims. > > It is a ■■■■■■ up and dangerous way of looking at the world. It ends up with everyone, eventually, being a victim by default because everyone has to live with changes done in the name of “victims”, while **actual victims** usually get shoved under a bus. It is not a non-issue affecting a small group, it affects anyone who wishes to move stuff through the main pipes that they can end up being bumped for hours. I see you changed it from being bumped to freighter ganking again when I am talking about bumping which is what this thread is about. So I move a freighter through the pipes I have to factor in perhaps two hours for being bumped, that is an issue. > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > No. I call you a white knight, because you’re virtue-signalling. I call you a white knight because you declare that there exist victims (who, for some reason, don’t post in masses on the forums) who deserve to be protected. > > They don’t. > > They don’t, because the amount of people affected is **insignificant** by any means whatsoever. It is absolutely unreasonalbe and unacceptable that things are **required** to change for everyone because of a tiny amount of people! It is further absolutely unacceptable that people cry out for others they themselves declared victims! Declaring people victims by default, directly or indirectly, makes you a bad person! > > Where are all those victims? Where are their threads? Why is there no actual outcry about this at all? Why hasn’t there ever been, except by a few assholes who tried to make it look like an issue? > > They only exist in your heads! > That’s where they are! > > The vast majority of freighter pilots don’t give a ■■■■, otherwise we would be well aware of it! The vast majority of freighter pilots do not get bumped or ganked at all, otherwise we would be well aware of it! The vast majority of freighter pilots **aren’t victims, self declared or by assholes** and absolutely do not deserve that CCP changes things for the worst of their group of people! > > How do you think did Humanity actually got this far? I’ll give you a hint: > > Humanity did not get this far by constantly centering everything around its weakest/stupidest/most ignorant. Humanity did not get this far by changing the rules for everyone around the **requirements** of the least capable, the worst and the unluckiest. > > On the contrary! You are off on a rant here. It is not insignificant, it is a significant cost in time and effort due to a mechanic that is deemed by many to be a bad mechanic. I am pointing out the issue with bumping because it is a poor mechanic which gives too much advantages. I don’t really know why you want to project all this RL stuff at me? But if it makes you feel better…, whatever… > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Well, you don’t personally have a lot of options, but you can still come gank with us, and then maybe we’ll be friends enough that I decide to help you haul a boatload of garbage across the galaxy for less than minimum wage. I generally charge my friends a hundred million isk per trip, and then I make sure they don’t get ganked. Pro tip, I am talking about getting people able to gank the bumper. > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > LOL Drac asks himself this every day. Pro tip, I am talking about getting people to gank the bumper. Reading and comprehension is difficult for some? > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Lol you’re so dumb and dishonest. Do you even play other games? Ones that are actually fun or do you just cry about code all day? You’d make the same argument when the games down to 2k players saying it’s because they’re not giving me easy kills 🤣 Projecting your own issues again, you actually said that you could not get interested for anything other than a JF and now you go off on a rant about me pointing it out. Typical… > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > He’s so toxic that even a group as pathetic as antigankers don’t want to be his friend anymore Tryhard… ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/353 "2019-05-01T09:40:34Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > What are you talking about, webbing does absolutely nothing when you are bumped, do you even know what you are talking about here. I repeat, webbing does nothing when you are bumped. Speedreading makes it hard to think about what’s written. Do you know how this works? It’s meant to suck in information fast, at the cost of actually thinking about it. It’s purely pattern recognition with whatever first match the brain comes up with as a response. SpeedReading is in fact really bad for communicating online. Why do I bring this up? Preventing getting bumped is the first defense. If you’re being webbed into warp you will not get bumped. But hey, sure, your mind is so hellbent on seeing enemy everywhere, of course i’m just trying to deflect instead of you being the asshole here for not actually caring about thinking what’s written. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Paying someone to do it is an option but is that the only option? I don’t know the purpose of this question. It’s an option and it’s a viable option. I’m not sure there have to be more options. In the end you’re the one who has to make sure the cargo reaches the destination. The **safest** option will always be paying someone else and we have to work from there downwards. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is not a non-issue affecting a small group, it affects anyone who wishes to move stuff through the main pipes that they can end up being bumped for hours. No, it isn’t. Freighter bumpign isn’t global warming. Theoretically if affects everyone who flies freighters, but in reality it only affects those who get bumped. It’s not right to ignore the fact that the majority of freighter pilots are neither getting bumped, nor ganked. You can’t say that, because of a tiny amount of people, things have to be changed for everyone. It’s unfair for all of those who do not have any problems whatsoever. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is not insignificant, It is, because the amount of freighters getting bumped and ganked is miniscule compared to those who do. You’re inflating the issue, **because** you’re seeing victims everywhere. Case in point: > [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is not a non-issue affecting a small group, it affects anyone who wishes to move stuff through the main pipes that they can end up being bumped for hours. Your own post makes it clear that, in your mind, everyone freighter pilot is a potential victim and that makes you a horrible person, because you’d be willing to throw everyone under the bus for those few who get bumped and ganked, ignoring that some of them might even deserve it. You’re not being rational at all. People aren’t victims by default. You’re being unfair towards everyone who actually likes to play in a dangerous environment where random things can happen. I can understand when your past defines you, but this is the present and people who aren’t suffering from anything deserve better than to be declared potential victims by people they don’t even know. Would you like to be declared a victim by default by people you don’t even know? No. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 10:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/354 "2019-05-01T10:08:56Z")
> [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Speedreading makes it hard to think about what’s written. Do you know how this works? It’s meant to suck in information fast, at the cost of actually thinking about it. It’s purely pattern recognition with whatever first match the brain comes up with as a response. SpeedReading is in fact really bad for communicating online. Why do I bring this up? Because I speed read and you want to make a point about it being me rather than your misunderstanding. > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Preventing getting bumped is the first defense. If you’re being webbed into warp you will not get bumped. But hey, sure, your mind is so hellbent on seeing enemy everywhere, of course i’m just trying to deflect instead of you being the asshole here for not actually caring about thinking what’s written. A simple suicide point will negate the webber, however that tends to be for people that actually want to gank rather than try for ransoms or trick people into duels. I always webbed my freighters, however bumping is really a pain for solo casual hisec players. But the point I was making was that finding people to gank the bumper once you are being bumped is rather difficult if not impossible. > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > I don’t know the purpose of this question. It’s an option and it’s a viable option. I’m not sure there have to be more options. In the end you’re the one who has to make sure the cargo reaches the destination. The **safest** option will always be paying someone else and we have to work from there downwards. So that is the only option. > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > No, it isn’t. Freighter bumpign isn’t global warming. Theoretically if affects everyone who flies freighters, but in reality it only affects those who get bumped. It’s not right to ignore the fact that the majority of freighter pilots are neither getting bumped, nor ganked. > > You can’t say that, because of a tiny amount of people, things have to be changed for everyone. It’s unfair for all of those who do not have any problems whatsoever. Incorrect many people have been bumped multiple times, I come across one player who gets bumped every time he makes a trip. But he never gets ganked. > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > It is, because the amount of freighters getting bumped and ganked is miniscule compared to those who do. You’re inflating the issue, **because** you’re seeing victims everywhere. Back to being about me again. > [@Solstice\_Projekt](#): > > Your own post makes it clear that, in your mind, everyone freighter pilot is a potential victim and that makes you a horrible person, because you’d be willing to throw everyone under the bus for those few who get bumped and ganked, ignoring that some of them might even deserve it. > > You’re not being rational at all. People aren’t victims by default. You’re being unfair towards everyone who actually likes to play in a dangerous environment where random things can happen. I can understand when your past defines you, but this is the present and people who aren’t suffering from anything deserve better than to be declared potential victims by people they don’t even know. > > Would you like to be declared a victim by default by people you don’t even know? No. I am talking about a poor mechanic in a game aka bumping which enables players to hold a person up with no consequences. The mechanic creates the victim. > **[Mammoth | Torneko Taloon | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/76498877/)** > > Torneko Taloon (The Mighty Beans) lost their Mammoth in Niarja (Domain). Final Blow by JIuc Dark (The Scope) flying solo in a Tornado. Total Value: 11,344,770,088.72 ISK What can one say, deserved!!! That is why people gank and I have no issue with that. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/355 "2019-05-01T13:38:09Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Reading and comprehension is difficult for some? LOL making friends is difficult for some too, particularly forum-weirdos with chronically hurt butts and paranoid dispositions. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/356 "2019-05-01T13:41:53Z")
Reading and comprehension is especially difficult for you, turning my comment about the difficulty of finding people that would gank a bumper to something that you could have another inept dig with. Deflection is all you can do when you lose the argument. @Nicolai_Serkanner , so you were so wrong about Brisc, that is because you don’t know jack. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/357 "2019-05-01T13:46:05Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Deflection is all you can do when you lose the argument. What was the argument, again? I don’t really pay that close attention to your drivel… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/358 "2019-05-01T13:47:05Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > What was the argument, again? I don’t really pay that close attention to your drivel… One your brain can’t pick up on obviously. The clue is in the title of this thread… ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/359 "2019-05-01T13:49:38Z")
“😪 😪 😪 The game is mean and unfair.” Yeah, we’ve all been hearing this tune from you for years, brother. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/360 "2019-05-01T13:53:05Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > “😪 😪 😪 The game is mean and unfair.” Yeah, we’ve all been hearing this tune from you for years, brother. You can’t even get that right, bumping of freighters is a poor mechanic that allows someone to effectively point someone with no consequences and needs to be adjusted or removed because it gives too much control and can be used to grief someone for hours. How you extrapolate that to the drivel you just wrote is your issue. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/361 "2019-05-01T13:55:39Z")
See, whining about how unfair the game is. Case-in-point. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/362 "2019-05-01T13:56:49Z")
Bumping not the game, reading comprehension is hard for you. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/363 "2019-05-01T14:11:49Z")
You can’t protect players from every possible thing in a sandbox as then it’s not a sandbox but rather a playpen. > grief someone for hours I might be wrong here but can’t you just log-off, wait a few minutes and log back in…the bumper will be gone and you can move on… I was bumped for about 10 minutes once in my Charon…I called out in local for help and a dude came by and bumped the bumper (I think that’s what happened) and I escaped…tipped the guy 10M and carried on. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/364 "2019-05-01T14:21:54Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > You can’t protect players from every possible thing in a sandbox as then it’s not a sandbox but rather a playpen. How can you translate an issue with bumping to the above drivel. I have an issue with a specific mechanic which is what this thread is about. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > I might be wrong here but can’t you just log-off, wait a few minutes and log back in…the bumper will be gone and you can move on… That is definitely an option for the ransom and trick duel types. But you have to be certain that this is the type of individual that is bumping you otherwise they will scan your ship down, which is easy to do, then give you a combat timer and you now need to be probed down for people to come help you. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > I was bumped for about 10 minutes once in my Charon…I called out in local for help and a dude came by and bumped the bumper (I think that’s what happened) and I escaped…tipped the guy 10M and carried on. Bumping the bumper is not as easy as many people make out, you are trying to bump a fast moving ship not a whale which is moving in the same direction. Often when this sort of counter bump happened the bumper was not serious as it was a ransom or scam attempt and he was most likely not concentrating or trying too hard. My suggestion to remove bumping is to make the event happen around the gates and create a cat and mouse type counter play of trying to snag the gankers while they get into position, this would also enable the freighter pilot to use the cloak timer to his advantage. The intention is to make it less controlled for the gankers and more uncertain or challenging and require people to play with friends and not be a boring multi-boxing farming exercise. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/365 "2019-05-01T14:25:32Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have an issue with a specific mechanic which is what this thread is about. LOL watching someone with a years-long history of whining about how unfair the game is trying to get people to view one of his posts in isolation. 🤣 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=17) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=19)