# Getting bumped in a freight highsec should make the bumper flagged **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636 "2019-03-03T17:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/366 "2019-05-01T14:26:28Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > LOL watching someone with a years-long history of whining about how unfair the game is trying to get people to view one of his posts in isolation. 🤣 This is what your feeble mind has turned it into, I find it amusing to keep pointing that out so do continue… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/367 "2019-05-01T14:39:15Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have an issue with a specific mechanic which is what this thread is about. This isn’t the first time you have claimed “unfair” so saying it’s just about a mechanic is a red herring. You want HS to be warm and fuzzy at all times with no ganking or anything that could prevent you from making ISK. This is a sandbox…bad things happen that you wont like…can’t deal with that then play X4 and avoid humans all together. > and require people to play with friends Here we go…I don’t like how you play so I will force everyone to play my way. Speaking of drivel… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/368 "2019-05-01T14:47:43Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > This isn’t the first time you have claimed “unfair” so saying it’s just about a mechanic is a red herring. You want HS to be warm and fuzzy at all times with no ganking or anything that could prevent you from making ISK. This is a sandbox…bad things happen that you wont like…can’t deal with that then play X4 and avoid humans all together. Projecting your feelings, next thing you will want me to hold hands and sing around a camp fire. You and others like you have extrapolated the issue around the bumping mechanic to ending ganking, it is entirely dishonest of you and the people like you. Bumping is a mechanic that enables a player to carry out combat against another player in hisec without any consequences, it gives too much control and too many advantages to those that do it enabling multi-boxers to easily carry out actions that should not be possible without friends. It needs to be adjusted or removed, this will not end ganking and anyone saying that is a blithering idiot. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Here we go…I don’t like how you play so I will force everyone to play my way. Speaking of drivel… That makes no sense, can you stop ranting. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/369 "2019-05-01T14:59:04Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > enables a player to carry out combat WTF are you talking about? So bumping is now combat to you? > can you stop ranting You think that one sentence is ranting? I’m starting to see a pattern here… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/370 "2019-05-01T14:59:39Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > WTF are you talking about? So bumping is now combat to you? Yes, bumping is combat. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > You think that one sentence is ranting? I’m starting to see a pattern here… It was ranting. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/371 "2019-05-01T15:07:32Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Yes, bumping is combat. Nobody will back you up on that as it’s purely your belief not backed up by anything else. Just like how one line to you is ranting where pretty much everyone else would say that writing post after post claiming how the game is ranting…day after day…week after week…moth after month… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/372 "2019-05-01T15:08:05Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Nobody will back you up on that as it’s purely your belief not backed up by anything else. Just like how one line to you is ranting where pretty much everyone else would say that writing post after post claiming how the game is ranting…day after day…week after week…moth after month… You are stopping someone from warping, it is a combat act. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/373 "2019-05-01T15:14:07Z")
Nope…combat involves violence. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/374 "2019-05-01T15:14:39Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Nope…combat involves violence. Deliberate bumping is violence, ramming speed anyone! ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/375 "2019-05-01T15:16:26Z")
…again, not by anyone definition but yours. If it was combat then CONCORD would be involved but they are not so…seem you are wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/376 "2019-05-01T15:17:56Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > …again, not by anyone definition but yours. If it was combat then CONCORD would be involved but they are not so…seem you are wrong. It is stopping someone from warping, it is used in various areas of space to prevent people from reaching the gates, tethering and so on. It is combat, but of course you are telling me it is not combat because it is in hisec. Seriously… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/377 "2019-05-01T15:21:08Z")
If it wasn’t in HS then weapons would be used…that’s called violence. No weapons is called annoying. Seriously… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/378 "2019-05-01T15:21:48Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > If it wasn’t in HS then weapons would be used…that’s called violence. No weapons is called annoying. Seriously… Thank you for making that point, in hisec weapons fire is rewarded by CONCORD intervention. Bumping is combat, period… Is a warp scrambler or warp disruptor violence, based on your logic they are not? All you have done is proved that the mechanic is an issue which is what I am pointing out. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/379 "2019-05-01T15:27:08Z")
> rewarded What? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Is a warp scrambler or warp disruptor violence, based on your logic they are not? Yes and CONCORD acts accordingly…CONCORD doesn’t think bumping is illegal and therefore doesn’t act when it happens. Thank you for making that point. Bumping is not combat, period… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/380 "2019-05-01T15:28:51Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Yes and CONCORD acts accordingly…CONCORD doesn’t think bumping is illegal and therefore doesn’t act when it happens. Thank you for making that point. > > Bumping is not combat, period… All you have proved is that the mechanic is the issue which is what I am pointing out, the bumper is able to stop someone from warping which is violence and interacting with that other player. It is combat, bumping is used in combat in Eve. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/381 "2019-05-01T15:31:31Z")
CONCORD disagrees with you which means CCP disagrees with you…You can call bumping genocide for all anyone cares but you will still be in the tiniest minority. > CCP considers the act of bumping a normal game mechanic, and does not class the bumping of another player’s ship as an exploit. > **[GM Response On Bumping - Crime & Punishment - EVE Online Forums](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/199310/)** > > EVE allows you to discover, explore and dominate an amazing science fiction universe while you fight, trade, form corporations and alliances with other players. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/382 "2019-05-01T15:34:20Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > CONCORD disagrees with you which means CCP disagrees with you…You can call bumping genocide for all anyone cares but you will still be in the tiniest minority. > > > CCP considers the act of bumping a normal game mechanic, and does not class the bumping of another player’s ship as an exploit. > > [GM Response On Bumping - Crime & Punishment - EVE Online Forums](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/topic/199310/) Yes it is a game mechanic and yes it is not an exploit. My point is that it is a poor mechanic that needs to be changed for reasons detailed above. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/383 "2019-05-01T15:35:44Z")
Clearly you are in a tiny, tiny minority…maybe you should contemplate why that is. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/384 "2019-05-01T15:36:10Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Clearly you are in a tiny, tiny minority…maybe you should contemplate why that is. But I am not, many people feel the same why that I do. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2019, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/385 "2019-05-01T15:36:44Z")
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