# Getting bumped in a freight highsec should make the bumper flagged **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636 "2019-03-03T17:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/466 "2019-05-02T15:11:45Z")
I just did. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/467 "2019-05-02T15:12:13Z")
You are avoiding my question, so I will cease talking to you. It is a waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/468 "2019-05-02T15:13:07Z")
It was quite clear in that I only needed another person when testing the bowhead. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/469 "2019-05-02T15:13:29Z")
Well, who was the other person? Are you going to answer finally? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/470 "2019-05-02T15:14:27Z")
I was unable to fully test the Bowhead because of that. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/471 "2019-05-02T15:14:49Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I don’t mind if one or two bumps stop a warp, but after that, nope, I used the word situational for a reason. Does that help? “One or two bumps” and “bumping for an hour” are quite the difference don’t you think? I think I will end this discussion with you here, as it seems you are incapable of even being honest about your intentions. You dance around simple questions to clarify your position like you are in a cross examination. Are you somehow ashamed of your actual intentions that you try to twist words to make them look more “acceptable”? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/472 "2019-05-02T15:14:53Z")
So, to summarize: Dracvlad bumped himself for over an hour. Such skill! 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/473 "2019-05-02T15:16:09Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > “One or two bumps” and “bumping for an hour” are quite the difference don’t you think? That is the point is it not? > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I think I will end this discussion with you here, as it seems you are incapable of even being honest about your intentions. You dance around simple questions to clarify your position like you are in a cross examination. Are you somehow ashamed of your actual intentions that you try to twist words to make them look more “acceptable”? I have been honest and direct, you used the word annoying I used difficult. My objective is to make it situational as I said. Nothing dishonest about that! PS Off to do the grocery shopping with my trouble and strife, catch you all later, thanks for keeping me occupied in between bouts of pressing V while using my Hulk. toodle pip!! PPS With using the D-scanner, keeping the ore moving into the Orca while switching drones and lasars on fast depleting rocks while assessing people coming in local and being ready to change to my Skiff I would find that a bit annoying, funny that 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/474 "2019-05-02T15:21:09Z")
I think this is a much better idea: > [@Mining should require more skill](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/mining-should-require-more-skill/156451): > > Mining is far too easy. It’s time for CCP to nerf mining and introduce some content which makes mining less profitable for individuals who aren’t even at their keyboard. I propose that we introduce a minigame like explorers play. Whereas the exploration game is Minesweeper, the mining game shall be Tetris. Miners should have to guide incoming minerals into their cargo hold. If the cargo hold fills up, they can’t fit any more minerals. If they are not careful, fiery kernite might cause their sh… ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/475 "2019-05-02T15:26:55Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have been honest and direct, you used the word annoying I used difficult. My objective is to make it situational as I said. Nothing dishonest about that! And we just wanted killing wrecks to be “more difficult”. It’s obviously still possible, it just requires “more skill” and it made the game “more interesting” wouldn’t you agree? ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/476 "2019-05-02T15:32:36Z")
Let’s make mining more interesting!!! ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/477 "2019-05-02T16:01:52Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I could almost bet that Australian Excellence has really given up because he could not fund his multiple accounts with plex going up but was not man enough to admit it. More conspiracy theories from our resident flat-earther. 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 6:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/478 "2019-05-02T18:37:39Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > More conspiracy theories from our resident flat-earther. 🤓 The Earth is not flat Mr cupcake. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Let’s make mining more interesting!!! You are going well off-topic. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2019, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/479 "2019-05-02T23:37:15Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I did it on the test server for an hour and a half, does that count? It was a couple of years back, I don’t have access to the Test server currently. I pretty much just assumed you’d never have bumped someone, which is obviously the case. I’m not saying bumping is super hard or anything, but it does take skill. I’ll bet you 50bil (or higher if you want a bigger wager) that you can’t keep me bumped in my freighter for even half an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/480 "2019-05-03T06:35:48Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > I pretty much just assumed you’d never have bumped someone, which is obviously the case. I bumped an NCDOT. JF out of optimal in Niarja so Miniluv could not kill it and then he was able to cyno out, so yes I have bumped a freighter class on TQ. I have done a little counter bumping and have also bumped a Miniluv freighter in a combat fit Macheriel a few times which is not effective. And I have tested how easy bumping is on a freighter on the test server a couple of years back with a properly fit Macherial and spent a couple of days on it. If you don’t believe me so what, I am not going to lose any beauty sleep over it. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > I’m not saying bumping is super hard or anything, but it does take skill. I’ll bet you 50bil (or higher if you want a bigger wager) that you can’t keep me bumped in my freighter for even half an hour. I am saying that currently bumping is not hard, but it takes a little skill a certain amount of practice and understanding. Your bet is pure vanity deflection bullshite, though you did admit that it is not super hard which is at least something out that pile of horse manure. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/481 "2019-05-03T06:58:53Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am saying that currently bumping is not hard, but it takes a little skill a certain amount of practice and understanding. Uhoh, we cannot have that. Better rush to the forums and demand CCP nerf it out of existence. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/482 "2019-05-03T06:59:37Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > Uhoh, we cannot have that. Better rush to the forums and demand CCP nerf it out of existence. It is all to do with the ability to keep something from warping for hours if you want to, again your reading and comprehension fails. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/483 "2019-05-03T07:11:04Z")
Once more I have exposed that you are just baseless concern trolling over a non issue. You just admitted that bumping is not hard. It would be easy for ag to counterbump a freighter, were it not for the fact that they are lazy and prefer to spend their time being toxic in their intel channels and whining that CCP needs to do something. But in the interest of finding common ground I propose a 75% nerf to freighter bumping: after being bumped for 6 hours a freighter should be able to enter warp automatically. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 7:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/484 "2019-05-03T07:13:50Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > Once more I have exposed that you are just baseless concern trolling over a non issue. You just admitted that bumping is not hard. It would be easy for ag to counterbump a freighter, were it not for the fact that they are lazy and prefer to spend their time being toxic in their intel channels and whining that CCP needs to do something. Counter bumping a bumping Macherial is very hard, you talk utter rubbish all the time. Like this: > [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > But in the interest of finding common ground I propose a 75% nerf to freighter bumping: after being bumped for 6 hours a freighter should be able to enter warp automatically. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 7:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/485 "2019-05-03T07:20:54Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Counter bumping a bumping Macherial is very hard, you talk utter rubbish all the time. lol, you cannot counterbump while docked in a station or mining three regions away. Yes, you actually have to commit some effort. But once you do that it isn’t very hard. And good to see you admit that freighters being bumped for hours on end isn’t actually what you are worried about, after you spending most of the thread setting that up as a straw man argument on why bumping needs to be nerfed by CCP. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=23) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=25)