# Getting bumped in a freight highsec should make the bumper flagged **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636 "2019-03-03T17:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/507 "2019-05-03T14:22:01Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Well you seem to think it was some sort of stonking victory Yes > [@Dracvlad](#): > > They were obviously wanting to smash their opponent while I guess Initiative would not want to upset daddy Goon. You still think CODE. are Goonswarm? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I was watching and hoping it would get blown up at that point. What’s more to say? I was talking about the comment you made today in last two replies. Where you said: > [@Dracvlad](#): > > And I am now busy observing my intended war targets, incidentally one of my objectives is to see that CODE fort in Niarja get blown into tiny pixels… You kinda implied that you are involved to make the fort explode. So again, you are not involved to make it explode and just watching and hopeing someone will do something? You don’t have to answer, I guess we all know you would not risk a ship in a fight against CODE. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/508 "2019-05-03T16:01:52Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Yes Objectives… > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > You still think CODE. are Goonswarm? Did I say that? In fact I have never said that they were actual Goons as in being part of Goons. I was aware of very close links with Miniluv especially in the past, but if you want to take that as being part of Goons then be my guest, but you are wrong. This is the amusing thing about ganker and ganker aligned players, you want everything so black and white, you decide that close working links means being in Goons, you think that having a blue list for the Goons and their allies freighters is being in the Goons, you think that having Goons and CODE routinely on the same kill means that they are in the Goons. Very close working links and at many times pulling in the same direction, and being created by a major Goon player. But anyone who says that is saying to you and people like you that they are in the Goons, what a load of rubbish. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I was talking about the comment you made today in last two replies. Where you said: That was what I said at the time I thought the Initiative were going for it. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > You kinda implied that you are involved to make the fort explode. So again, you are not involved to make it explode and just watching and hopeing someone will do something? You don’t have to answer, I guess we all know you would not risk a ship in a fight against CODE. I have it as an objective, how I do that is down to me. As for risking a ship against CODE, ROFL, CODE gank, they or CODE aligned players have tried to blow me up a couple of times, I have plenty of Goon and CODE kills and have been in many freighter repping activities in the past and not one loss. That one time they tried to kill my Proteus with Thrashers was especially woeful, only took off 20% shields. You know so little mate. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 4:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/509 "2019-05-03T16:20:28Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have it as an objective, how I do that is down to me. I bet it involves waiting until it gets offlined and unanchored. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 5:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/510 "2019-05-03T17:44:18Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Let’s make mining more interesting!!! If it makes The Drac stay away from the forums I’m all for it. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/511 "2019-05-03T18:32:18Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > If it makes The Drac stay away from the forums I’m all for it. You were wrong about Brisc, what else are you wrong about? > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I bet it involves waiting until it gets offlined and unanchored. Then I will have failed my objective. It is a fun thing a stretch goal, something above my ability as a solo player, the butterfly affect, dreams etc. etc. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/512 "2019-05-03T18:36:07Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Fixed it for ya Please stop doing that, because that’s not how projection works … -.- Man, I seriously regret it, okay? Let it rest already. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/513 "2019-05-03T18:43:49Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Please stop doing that, because that’s not how projection works … -.- I hate doing that too, but when it gets done to me why not. > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Man, I seriously regret it, okay? Let it rest already. Thanks. Did you like my comments about Stalin above, that statue in Montpelier really pisses me off. I will piss on it one day. It is on my list to do’s. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/514 "2019-05-03T18:45:30Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I hate doing that too, but when it gets done to me why not. I just wished people would stop using words they don’t understand. -.- > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Did you like my comments about Stalin above, that statue in Montpelier really pisses me off. I will piss on it one day. I didn’t see it. I stopped at the “projection”. I’m really done with this topic, and most others. There’s no point talking about any of these things, at all, ever, with no one. Also I suggest not doing that, because it’ll get you sweet jail time you’d probably not enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/515 "2019-05-03T18:46:37Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > I just wished people would stop using words they don’t understand. -.- I understand totally what I wrote and why. > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Also I suggest not doing that, because it’ll get you sweet jail time you’d probably not enjoy. The objective is to do it for my own personal satisfaction, and not get caught. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/516 "2019-05-03T18:46:55Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > The objective is to do it for my own personal satisfaction, and not get caught. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2019, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/517 "2019-05-03T18:47:11Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Good luck! Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/518 "2019-05-04T06:57:58Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > There is a statue of Stalin in Montpelier, I have promised myself that the next time I go there I will go and piss on it. My wife’s grandfather lost almost his entire family to Stalin. How ironic than that your reaction to people having fun in a video game is to do an appeal to authority to ban that behavior. Not because it affects you badly, but you just disapprove and therefore it must be removed. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/519 "2019-05-04T07:11:47Z")
> [@BIade\_Runner](#): > > Here you can find a more elegant solution for the possibility to exploit bumping mechanic in the case of very slow align ships, like freighters: That approach is too over-powered as currently conceived. It has potential, but it’s just an “I win” button. Since it’s a module that would be activated as part of escaping from another player, then just as the activation of boosts causes a weapons timer, then as a way to tone it down a touch, it should trigger a weapons timer when activated. That way, the bump target can escape, but the prepared bump/gank players who see where the ship goes, have a chance to follow and take some action before the freighter tethers, repairs the module, docks and goes again. If the freighter warps to a safe, then there’s a chance to scan it down again, but quickly. That would provide some more balance around that idea, otherwise it’s yet just another “I don’t like x-type of play, so here’s how we can screw that over” suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/520 "2019-05-04T07:36:17Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > How ironic than that your reaction to people having fun in a video game is to do an appeal to authority to ban that behavior. Not because it affects you badly, but you just disapprove and therefore it must be removed. Well turn this around I will have fun by peeing on the statue and the authorities will arrest me for just having fun., Over to you! ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 7:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/521 "2019-05-04T07:39:08Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > it should trigger a weapons timer when activated. ROFL that is so lame, that is making it easier for trick duel gankers. Seriously silly suggestion, you surprise me. The bump mechanic needs adjustment more than anything else, period. I see you replied to him here with this rather than in his suggestion thread, at least here you will get a pat on the back for such nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 7:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/522 "2019-05-04T07:53:18Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > ROFL that is so lame, that is making it easier for trick duel gankers. Seriously silly suggestion, you surprise me. The bump mechanic needs adjustment more than anything else, period. > > I see you replied to him here with this rather than in his suggestion thread, at least here you will get a pat on the back for such nonsense. It’s as perfectly reasonable a suggestion as any drivel that froths from your mouth. His idea is OP. It has potential, but just isn’t balanced at all. Trying to help advance the idea is better than the keyboard wanking you are doing with the others here. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 7:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/523 "2019-05-04T07:58:31Z")
I hope CCP announces soon when the fix their team is working on will be implemented. As this is such a pressing problem, all of NE is waiting on this one with baited breath. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/524 "2019-05-04T08:21:18Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > It’s as perfectly reasonable a suggestion as any drivel that froths from your mouth. Really, let me look at it again: > [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Since it’s a module that would be activated as part of escaping from another player, then just as the activation of boosts causes a weapons timer, then as a way to tone it down a touch, it should trigger a weapons timer when activated. It is drivel and you have said it here because it is trolling and not serious at all. Go and put that up on his suggestion thread then, this will be amusing to watch… PS An important question, do you realise that bumping making it a lot easier to multi-box means that you turn this into boring Farmville solo play in which people burn out and stop after a while due to crushing boredom. Did you ever realise that I made a conscious decision to stop doing anything when I realised that the plaintive wail of AG fails again was in fact a desire for attention and they needed competition to keep doing it. So much for solo multi-boxing freighter ganking. The best thing that can happen for freighter ganking is if bumping ends, and I would even support a reduction in EHP for freighters. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/525 "2019-05-04T10:38:21Z")
Just analysing the recent bump in freighter ganking over Friday and Saturday and it is very telling that most are barely worth ganking. Enjoy your over fishing. In effect you would be much better off if bumping was no longer a thing as people would actually risk more ISK. But you screwed it! ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2019, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/526 "2019-05-04T11:25:30Z")
AS of right now and looking at the 4th, 5 freighters hit in HS worth on average 1.7B and dropping on average 574M… Your version of “barely worth” is interesting… > But you screwed it! Ya no…that’s just you projecting again. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=27)