# Getting bumped in a freight highsec should make the bumper flagged **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636 "2019-03-03T17:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 30
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 6:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/587 "2019-05-09T06:19:18Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > That is silly, you are comparing your skills to the very best pilots in highsec. Who require bumping to do anything. > [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > But to advance your line of thinking we can agree that freighter HP should be reduced to the point that it takes a maximum of 4 pilots to gank one. I am talking about bumping not ganking. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/588 "2019-05-09T07:17:21Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am talking about bumping not ganking. It is quite obvious that your arguments have been entirely self serving. I’m just illustrating how totally ridiculous your positions are. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 7:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/589 "2019-05-09T07:24:23Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > It is quite obvious that your arguments have been entirely self serving. I’m just illustrating how totally ridiculous your positions are. What do you even mean by that? You seem a bit uptight, calm down ganker. Bumping of freighters in hisec is a poor mechanic which enables easy farming and anyone relying on it is not a very good player or group of players. It is against the concept of Eve being a hard game with consequences. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 10:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/590 "2019-05-09T10:15:31Z")
Ha, nice to see you quoting our operations handbook. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery after all (and you can’t really expect ag to come up with something original). Just a few posts ago you claim bumping is hard, so you need at least 4 pilots to counter bump, and now suddenly bumping is easy. I’d say make up your mind, but your endless whines in this thread show that your mind is already made up: you don’t like bumping or ganking and will endlessly distort the facts in the hope that CCP is dumb enough to fall for it. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is against the concept of Eve being a hard game with consequences. Just to highlight your total failure to understand EVE. The “hard” and the “consequences” are supposed to be provided by players, not by game mechanisms. The PvE experience of EVE is of trivial difficulty; the players are what makes the game interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 12:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/591 "2019-05-09T12:32:23Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > Just a few posts ago you claim bumping is hard, so you need at least 4 pilots to counter bump Talk about missing the context, I said that dealing with bumping requires 4 accounts, three of them being specific Talos alts that you don’t need for ISK generation. All that to deal with a single bumper who has no consequences for his aggression against another player. That you could not understand what I wrote means that you should take the advice I offered which is to calm down ganker. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/592 "2019-05-09T13:43:14Z")
Your fake narrative is breaking down. 🤣 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Anyway this all deflection on the subject that at the end of the day to defeat one bumper I need to have four accounts, can’t be right as game design. This is what you wrote, and as I explained earlier, given equal pilot skill a single counter bumper is sufficient to make the game equal. So now you try to shift the goalposts by suggesting that you want to gank the bumper (as if 🤣) and complain that ganking ships is unreasonably difficult if it requires 3 or more dedicated pilots . Thereby invalidating your own argument that ganking is currently too easy. 🤣 It must be frustrating for you to be humbled by the best pilots in EVE. But you can always get a participation trophy if you cared enough to try; just look up your loss mails. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 1:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/593 "2019-05-09T13:44:10Z")
Why is it false, saying it is false does not make it so. Let me repeat I am talking about what is needed to counter a bumper, it is not about ganking, will that actually sink in at some point or are your emotions getting the better of you again, do calm down ganker. ---
**Author:** ![Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sepheir_sepheron/32/279597_2.png) [@Sepheir\_Sepheron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sepheir_Sepheron)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/594 "2019-05-09T14:00:47Z")
You type like you’re skipping school lol No comment other than that, just an obvious troll without common sense. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/595 "2019-05-09T17:40:13Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I have not lost a single ship to CODE. The more you say this, the more convinced everyone will be! Surely! 🥑 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/596 "2019-05-09T21:28:57Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > The more you say this, the more convinced everyone will be! Surely! 🥑 The lack of kills to CODE is on the killboard and my alts are well known. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/597 "2019-05-10T00:07:19Z")
Everyone knows you’ve been caught in one of Siegfried’s 20 hour bumpathons which ended in code dunking your freighter into the dumpster Years later after you sat so many hours in uedama failing to stop even a single gank you’re still here after giving up, crying about mechanics in a dead game So salty 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 2:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/598 "2019-05-10T02:03:11Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > my alts are well known. They are? List them for me, won’t you? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/599 "2019-05-10T05:25:23Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > my alts are well known lol…Making a statement doesn’t make said statement true… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 5:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/600 "2019-05-10T05:48:17Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Everyone knows you’ve been caught in one of Siegfried’s 20 hour bumpathons which ended in code dunking your freighter into the dumpster You just embarrassed yourself. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Years later after you sat so many hours in uedama failing to stop even a single gank you’re still here after giving up, crying about mechanics in a dead game I hardly operated in Uedama. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > So salty 🤣 The salt is coming from you making stuff up. > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > They are? List them for me, won’t you? 😃 A guy called Aaron listed them on the forums. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > lol…Making a statement doesn’t make said statement true… Only to those that read General Discussion, but he listed them there. This is the thing while you lot lie and bluster I just give the hard cold truth, CODE has not got a single kill on any of my characters. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 5:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/601 "2019-05-10T05:55:11Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > most are barely worth ganking Just checked for the 9th… 4 in HS were lost …36B Lost and 12.5B Dropped…Average of 3B dropped… Still trying to see why you think it’s ‘barely’ worth it… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/602 "2019-05-10T05:58:09Z")
> [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > Just checked for the 9th… > > 4 in HS were lost …36B Lost and 12.5B Dropped…Average of 3B dropped… > > Still trying to see why you think it’s ‘barely’ worth it… There was about 3 or 4 freighters that were ganked when I said that and all of them were low value cargo, which was hardly worth doing, applying it to another set of targets is fine, so they were worth doing, cool beans, they were worth doing…, maybe target selection is now a thing? ---
**Author:** ![phantom\_lord\_zaja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/phantom_lord_zaja/32/201492_2.png) [@phantom\_lord\_zaja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/phantom_lord_zaja)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 7:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/603 "2019-05-10T07:14:06Z")
And how would goons have their fun ? ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/604 "2019-05-10T07:47:42Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > CODE has not got a single kill on any of my characters. I too cry non-stop for years and years and try to meta game an in-game enemy I have lost nothing too. Or maybe you lost nothing and you are just white knighting for others. Which one is it? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 7:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/605 "2019-05-10T07:48:56Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I too cry non-stop for years and years and try to meta game an in-game enemy I have lost nothing too. Do you cry non-stop for years? > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Or maybe you lost nothing and you are just white knighting for others. Or perhaps I find this mechanic and those that use it rather lame and uninteresting. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 8:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/606 "2019-05-10T08:23:23Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Do you cry non-stop for years? No, but you certainly do. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Or perhaps I find this mechanic and those that use it rather lame and uninteresting. I find mining and mission running rather lame and uninteresting, yet I don’t meta game for it’s removal or cry non-stop about it, **I simply play something I find interesting instead**. To suggest that is the reason for your constant crying is simply dishonest and an attempt to hide the real reasons which is that you find ganking wrong so all mechanics that enable it or are used by the gankers to their advantage have to be nerfed. Typical white knight. Admit it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=29) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=31)