# Getting bumped in a freight highsec should make the bumper flagged **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636 "2019-03-03T17:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 8:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/607 "2019-05-10T08:40:46Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > No, but you certainly do. Don’t see any crying from me, just a cold hard logical assessment of this lame game play and how much an advantage it gives. And it is very telling that when I do so, the response with insults false kills and bravo that I get in return says who is really crying. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I find mining and mission running rather lame and uninteresting, yet I don’t meta game for it’s removal or cry non-stop about it, I have seen you chant risk/reward a few times, you want it adjusted to a perceived balance of risk and return, which is why there are no level 5’s in hisec. A silly move by CCP in fact and that was done to placate people crying about it as you put it. I thought in hard cold logical terms that they were desperate to get more people to farm. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I simply play something I find interesting instead Like me not doing anything serious in game against freighter ganking as the advantages are too great to really oppose. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > To suggest that is the reason for your constant crying is simply dishonest and an attempt to hide the real reasons which is that you find ganking wrong so all mechanics that enable it or are used by the gankers to their advantage have to be nerfed. I am talking about bumping and not ganking, you still cannot get your head around that, this is highly amusing. The issue is freighter bumping, remove that and ganking is fine. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Typical white knight. Admit it. And here we have the label to make you feel good and to soothe your hurt feelings. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/608 "2019-05-10T12:35:16Z")
It’s so lame and uninteresting that people kill freighters and bump them so they can’t even haul their cargo. You know what would be AWESOME and SUPER FASCINATING? What if freighters were invulnerable, and everyone could play Highway Semi-Truck Driver in complete safety, just hauling back and forth endlessly with no threat whatsoever! 🚛 🚚 🚙🚎🚐🚜 Now that is definitely a game people would pay to play! ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/609 "2019-05-10T13:04:35Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > A guy called Aaron listed them on the forums. And you are afraid to list them because you are afraid of us? Why not just re-list them real quick for me? LOLOL You always talk a big game but when it comes time to nut-up you are a coward, Dracvlad. List your alts or admit you are scared. Name the system(s) to find you in OR ELSE YOU ARE A COWARD. (Insert lame Drac excuse about “blah blah doing your work for you blah blah”. BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK You are a chicken. 🐔 ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/610 "2019-05-10T13:08:03Z")
Dracvld is crying and spinning so hard that his forum posts are causing cyclone alerts in India. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/611 "2019-05-10T13:16:40Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Now that is definitely a game people would pay to play! I think that’s called X4…but Dracvlad is here for the sandbox..lol… ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/612 "2019-05-10T13:39:12Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > It’s so lame and uninteresting that people kill freighters and bump them so they can’t even haul their cargo. There is nothing wrong with ganking them, bumping them however is just a lame mechanic as it currently stands. I am not saying what you have decided I am saying! > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > And you are afraid to list them because you are afraid of us? Why not just re-list them real quick for me? LOLOL You always talk a big game but when it comes time to nut-up you are a coward, Dracvlad. List your alts or admit you are scared. Name the system(s) to find you in OR ELSE YOU ARE A COWARD. > > (Insert lame Drac excuse about “blah blah doing your work for you blah blah”. > > BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK You are a chicken. 🐔 Mate I never make things easy for people, in any case you are not my TZ anyway. > [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > Dracvld is crying and spinning so hard that his forum posts are causing cyclone alerts in India. That is perfectly normal weather in that area. > [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](#): > > I think that’s called X4…but Dracvlad is here for the sandbox…lol… There is nothing wrong with ganking, the issue is bumping. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/613 "2019-05-10T13:42:17Z")
Dracvlad supports ganking, he just thinks catalyst should only have one gun and shouldn’t be able to mount a neutron blaster, but otherwise he totally supports ganking. Also, Coercer should be a bit more expensive, maybe 10 million for basic hull. Nothing too extreme, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/614 "2019-05-10T13:43:08Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Mate I never make things easy for people Right, you just like to talk smack AS IF YOU HAD. AS IF your alts are well known and you aren’t hiding them and your location because you are a scared little chicken. I just like to point this out every time you try to talk tough while hiding in a backwater system like the coward you are. Just admit you are afraid of the New Order of Highsec, Dracvlad. Admit you are a cowardly little chicken. 🐣 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/615 "2019-05-10T13:45:58Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > Dracvlad supports ganking, he just thinks catalyst should only have one gun and shouldn’t be able to mount a neutron blaster, but otherwise he totally supports ganking. Don’t know where you managed to rustle that one up from, but no, eight guns are perfectly fine as are the cost of destroyers. > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Right, you just like to talk smack AS IF YOU HAD. AS IF your alts are well known and you aren’t hiding them and your location because you are a scared little chicken. All my alts have been detailed by Aaron on the forums, it is not a big deal. > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > I just like to point this out every time you try to talk tough while hiding in a backwater system like the coward you are. I am not hiding, you are just too lazy and useless to locate me. > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Just admit you are afraid of the New Order of Highsec, Dracvlad. Admit you are a cowardly little chicken. 🐣 You lot are hardly active when I am active in any case. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/616 "2019-05-10T13:48:17Z")
All my alts are well known, just ask Mike. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/617 "2019-05-10T13:48:49Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > All my alts have been detailed by Aaron on the forums, it is not a big deal. Okay, so point toward the list or else you are proving that you are afraid. Nobody cares enough about you to go like, asking around or anything. You are talking tough, so give your location or admit that you are scared. I reiterate: BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔 ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/618 "2019-05-10T13:51:00Z")
> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Nobody cares enough about you to go like, asking around or anything. You are talking tough, so give your location or admit that you are scared. Not to take any sides in this conversation, but isn’t this what locator agents are for? ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/619 "2019-05-10T13:53:30Z")
Okay, so what are the character names? I’ll wait… 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/620 "2019-05-10T13:55:05Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Not to take any sides in this conversation, but isn’t this what locator agents are for? That is what I told him the last time he went off on this subject. > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Okay, so point toward the list or else you are proving that you are afraid. I am afraid that you are unable to use locator agents and do some obvious and pretty easy basic research. > [@Galaxy\_Pig](#): > > Nobody cares enough about you to go like, asking around or anything. You are talking tough, so give your location or admit that you are scared. I just find it highly amusing that a player who defines himself as tough and able can’t even do basic research in Eve. keep posting mate I am finding this hilarious, I am going to like every one of your many melt downs. > [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > All my alts are well known, just ask Mike. Aaron is well known, did something called Hub Zero. ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/621 "2019-05-10T13:56:03Z")
BAWWWWWWWK BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK BAWK 🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔🐔 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 3:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/622 "2019-05-10T15:27:00Z")
🐣🐥🐤🐤🐥🐣🐥🐔 ---
**Author:** ![Natocha\_Daisy](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/natocha_daisy/32/474632_2.png) [@Natocha\_Daisy](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Natocha_Daisy)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/623 "2019-05-10T16:46:17Z")
I don’t see the point in this idea really. If freighters aren’t allowed to be bumped then no ship should. Freighters are just there for PvP anyway not real indy. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/624 "2019-05-10T20:46:44Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am talking about bumping and not ganking, you still cannot get your head around that, this is highly amusing. The issue is freighter bumping, remove that and ganking is fine. Yeah, you make it pretty clear that it actually is about ganking in the second sentence. I’m starting to think the problem here isn’t that you want to fool us but that you fooled yourself a long time ago and still believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/625 "2019-05-10T21:46:59Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Yeah, you make it pretty clear that it actually is about ganking in the second sentence. Except that I am replying to people who keep saying ganking when I am talking about bumping. So when you lot go off and say that I want to stop ganking I just answer that without bumping ganking is perfectly fine, because I only have an issue with bumping which makes freighter ganking too easy. You just can’t get that in your heads, so you have to come up with psychological bullshite like this as if it means something, but it really is verbal garbage. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > I’m starting to think the problem here isn’t that you want to fool us but that you fooled yourself a long time ago and still believe it. Verbal diarrhoea basically… ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2019, 9:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/626 "2019-05-10T21:54:53Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > without bumping ganking is perfectly fine But what you are still not getting is that you generally cannot separate the two topics cleanly even though that is what you want to do. If you get rid of bumping then you deal a huge blow to ganking which is probably your real goal regardless of your protests and insults. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=30) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=32)