# Getting bumped in a freight highsec should make the bumper flagged **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [March 3, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636 "2019-03-03T17:02:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 10:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/667 "2019-05-13T10:22:47Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > It got changed because of people blapping super wrecks you sped 🤣 Incorrect, but you know nothing, that was the reason why there was a long standing effort on it by a player who had been trying to get it changed for a long time who left the game and let it go. But as soon as AG started blapping wrecks Endie jumped in on it and in a short time it got changed. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Never said I was (I am tho). Only that you’re really stupid, which everyone is in agreement on here I am not bothered if someone like you thinks I am stupid. If an idiot thinks I am an idiot I take it as a compliment, so thank you. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Oh, you seem salty my dim witted friend 🙂 Over what, I am still playing the game, you have given up on it. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Keep autism posting all day on this dead forum in a dead game, you’re keeping this section alive I guess 😆 Who is salty? > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > I have fun with everything I do. Do you? Was getting wrecked by code for years fun? 🤣🤣🤣 Show me on the killboard where I got wrecked? You can’t… ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 10:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/668 "2019-05-13T10:34:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Incorrect, but you know nothing Denial > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I am not bothered if someone like you thinks I am stupid. If an idiot thinks I am an idiot I take it as a compliment, so thank you More denial EVERYONE thinks you’re an idiot, not just me 🤣 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Who is salty? QQQQQQQQQQQQQQ 😭 😭 😭 😭 It’s okay you don’t have to cry ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/669 "2019-05-13T10:38:26Z")
You are just so full of salt. ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/670 "2019-05-13T11:17:06Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > My answers are up above as to why it is not going to happen Because you are unable to HTFU and adapt to the changes. It is still possible to gank a wreck, just not as cheap as it was. It certainly made the game more interesting. Also not our fault ag is so bad at the meta game. How many years are you crying about bumping? It took CODE. like a week to get it changed, true winners. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/671 "2019-05-13T11:19:29Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Because you are unable to HTFU and adapt to the changes. It is still possible to gank a wreck, just not as cheap as it was. It certainly made the game more interesting. It is beyond the reach of most AG characters, and thus made the game less interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 11:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/672 "2019-05-13T11:52:02Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is beyond the reach of most AG characters, and thus made the game less interesting. It’s called doing the least amount of effort and being a brainlet Such a salty kid zXDXdXXxd ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/673 "2019-05-13T12:11:08Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is beyond the reach of most AG characters, and thus made the game less interesting. That is just an excuse for not trying to adapt. You want to influence other peoples gameplay but invest and risk nothing, then stop crying. You always cry about ganking being too easy but when you are the one who should use the mechanic it’s suddenly expensive and out of reach and whatever, it’s getting a bit pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/674 "2019-05-13T16:44:38Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > It is beyond the reach of most AG characters, and thus made the game less interesting. That is because ag is too lazy to participate. If ag would have to race a blind, comatose cripple in a 100m dash they would be complaining that 100m is too far. If the organizers adjusted the race to a 50m dash and gave them an electric cart, they would be complaining that electric carts are too hard too drive. ag is only happy when they are all alone in a system, mining veldspar for shi\*t ISK, as long as the risk is zero. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/675 "2019-05-13T16:54:44Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > It’s called doing the least amount of effort and being a brainlet > > Such a salty kid zXDXdXXxd And: > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > That is just an excuse for not trying to adapt. You want to influence other peoples gameplay but invest and risk nothing, then stop crying. > > You always cry about ganking being too easy but when you are the one who should use the mechanic it’s suddenly expensive and out of reach and whatever, it’s getting a bit pathetic. And: > [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > That is because ag is too lazy to participate. If ag would have to race a blind, comatose cripple in a 100m dash they would be complaining that 100m is too far. If the organizers adjusted the race to a 50m dash and gave them an electric cart, they would be complaining that electric carts are too hard too drive. > > ag is only happy when they are all alone in a system, mining veldspar for shi\*t ISK, as long as the risk is zero. No substance, just venting, as I had said all you want is you nice easy I win, called bumping to continue your extremely boring ISK making. Once bumping is either removed or adjusted I will look at it again, but while it is as it is, I am not interested in such un-fun game play. And if it hurts your feelings so be it. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/676 "2019-05-13T16:59:39Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > No substance, just venting So you finally admit you are only venting because of some dumb ass freighter losses I don’t know how long ago. Works for me.🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/677 "2019-05-13T17:05:49Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > So you finally admit you are only venting because of some dumb ass freighter losses I don’t know how long ago. Works for me.🤣 Reading and comprehension can be hard for some I was referring to the venting that you and two others were pushing from your rear ends. Above over multiple posts is all my reasoning on why this mechanic is so poor and such is an I win, that you can’t understand it is your issue. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 5:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/678 "2019-05-13T17:07:27Z")
> [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Only that you’re really stupid, which everyone is in agreement on here I protest! That is a blatant exaggeration! Not everyone here things The Drac is stupid. Most of them, yes. But not all. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/679 "2019-05-13T17:24:36Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > No substance, just venting Oops, there you go again 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 5:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/680 "2019-05-13T17:28:32Z")
> [@NotTheSmartestCookie](#): > > Oops, there you go again 🤣 lame… ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/681 "2019-05-13T17:34:56Z")
Not my problem is you keep venting the same stuff over and over again. 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/682 "2019-05-13T21:12:23Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > as I had said all you want is you nice easy I win It can’t be an I win if only like 3 people in the whole game are able to pull it off. It sounds more like YOU want an I win button, because it is too much effort to actually figure something out inside the game. With you it’s always like: - Ganklng is too easy, cheap and consequence free, except if you are asked to gank the bumper or the wreck then it is suddenly too hard, too expensive and the sec status becomes an issue. - Bumping is too easy and an I win button, except if you are asked to counter bump then it is suddenly too hard and can’t be done. - Looting is risk free and has no consequences, except if you are asked to steal the loot it’s suddenly hard and the DST is in harms way etc. It’s just really pathetic. The game rules are the same for everyone, yet you seem to think you are in the special position to demand changes in your favor just because you and your band of white knights are incapable of figuring out how to play by the game rules that exist. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/683 "2019-05-14T00:34:27Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > No substance, just venting, We’re just here to laugh at a dumb sideshow You’re the one making thousands of posts about nerfing and complaining about ganking every year Honestly who’s the one venting? 🤪 > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > It can’t be an I win if only like 3 people in the whole game are able to pull it off. And those players barely play if at all, code and miniluv freighter gankings on life support and he’s still acting like it’s some huge problem when under 10 freighters are dying a week 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 6:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/684 "2019-05-14T06:28:28Z")
> [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > It can’t be an I win if only like 3 people in the whole game are able to pull it off. It sounds more like YOU want an I win button, because it is too much effort to actually figure something out inside the game. It has been explained above why, but the most important thing is that it gives total control of the battlefield, that only three people are currently doing this by multi-boxing shows only that they don’t share the loot. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Ganklng is too easy, cheap and consequence free, except if you are asked to gank the bumper or the wreck then it is suddenly too hard, too expensive and the sec status becomes an issue. When you gank your objective is the loot and due to loot scooping through DST’s and the control given to you by the bumper you should get the loot most of the time. Security status and killrights don’t matter, but on the AG side no loot and of course security status and killrights matter and they do not have massed accounts. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Bumping is too easy and an I win button, except if you are asked to counter bump then it is suddenly too hard and can’t be done. So you cannot see the difference between bumping a slow moving freighter as compared to a fast moving agile battleship, seriously… > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > Looting is risk free and has no consequences, except if you are asked to steal the loot it’s suddenly hard and the DST is in harms way etc. Controlling the time of the gank and getting the warp in’s is key to this, AG have got better at going after the freighters, but the gankers will loot scoop through a DST if it is small items. > [@Karak\_Terrel](#): > > It’s just really pathetic. The game rules are the same for everyone, yet you seem to think you are in the special position to demand changes in your favor just because you and your band of white knights are incapable of figuring out how to play by the game rules that exist. Bumping gives too much of an advantage to the freighter gankers in terms of battlefield control and it enables them to effectively point someone indefinitely without consequences. When I ask for it to be removed or adjusted I am looking at it from the point of view what a massive advantage it gives. And you can go on about White Knights all you want but it does not change that. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > You’re the one making thousands of posts about nerfing and complaining about ganking every year I am posting about the poor balance due to bumping, not ganking. And you are too dumb to understand that. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > Honestly who’s the one venting? 🤪 You, in this post I detail why bumping is an issue. > [@Australian\_Excellence](#): > > And those players barely play if at all, code and miniluv freighter gankings on life support and he’s still acting like it’s some huge problem when under 10 freighters are dying a week 🤣 The three people doing bumping and then multi-fleet gankers it have themselves to blame, they turned it into a boring play which they largely do on their own. That there are three players doing it and they are barely playing does not matter. There are people who are bumping in addition to those three and they will do ransom and or trick duels as they do not have the massed accounts to gank. It will be better when you have to play more as a team with other players attacking freighters that have more in them on gates. PS If anyone see this as a rant or venting they are a bit on the salty side. ---
**Author:** ![NotTheSmartestCookie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/notthesmartestcookie/32/168266_2.png) [@NotTheSmartestCookie](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/NotTheSmartestCookie)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 7:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/685 "2019-05-14T07:38:01Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > No substance, just venting Ah, another Dracvlad rant. ---
**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 7:51am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/686 "2019-05-14T07:51:27Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Controlling the time of the gank and getting the warp in’s is key to this, AG have got better at going after the freighters, but the gankers will loot scoop through a DST if it is small items. You’re so thick. Thieves have the absolute advantage when looting. No risk and no other tasks. When I’m lagging from 30 clients they literally just have to loot > [@Dracvlad](#): > > When I ask for it to be removed or adjusted I am looking at it from the point of view what a massive advantage it gives. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > am posting about the poor balance due to bumping, not ganking. And you are too dumb to understand that. You’re literally just crying cos you’re salty about ganking, you’re not fooling anybody. Not even yourself > [@Dracvlad](#): > > The three people doing bumping and then multi-fleet gankers it have themselves to blame, they turned it into a boring play which they largely do on their own. You keep saying this and it keeps being dumb Regardless of overfishing and the traffic being bad, most of us have been doing it for 3-6 years. Of course we would get bored eventually you brainlet. We’d get bored of anything doing it that long > [@Dracvlad](#): > > There are people who are bumping in addition to those three and they will do ransom and or trick duels as they do not have the massed accounts to gank The person that was doing 90% of all the bumping in the game barely plays once a month now. There’s hardly any freighters being bumped for randsoms anymore, a literal insignificant number > [@Dracvlad](#): > > It will be better when you have to play more as a team with other players attacking freighters that have more in them on gates. If me and my friends and acquaintances quit, freighter ganking will be pretty much dead forever, nobody is interested in picking it up much less putting in the large amount of time and effort required. Your imaginary fairytale game after bumping got nerfd is all in your head and a complete delusion of a dyndrome [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=33) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636.md?page=35)