# Getting bumped in a freight highsec should make the bumper flagged

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [March 3, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636 "2019-03-03T17:02:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 8:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/687 "2019-05-14T08:01:28Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> You’re so thick. Thieves have the absolute advantage when looting. No risk and no other tasks. When I’m lagging from 30 clients they literally just have to loot

scratch yer eyes out tiger…

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> You’re literally just crying cos you’re salty about ganking, you’re not fooling anybody. Not even yourself

bumping is no consequences hostile PvP in hisec.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> You keep saying this and it keeps being dumb

You people keep saying three people, is that supposed to bother me that .

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Regardless of overfishing and the traffic being bad, most of us have been doing it for 3-6 years. Of course we would get bored eventually you brainlet. We’d get bored of anything doing it that long

Well it is so low risk and so like mining, I am surprised it took you so long, shows how brain dead you are 😛

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> The person that was doing 90% of all the bumping in the game barely plays once a month now. There’s hardly any freighters being bumped for randsoms anymore, a literal insignificant number

I often come across people sitting there bumping in Niarja and who do not have a gank fleet behind them. But then again Racknar is based there.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> If me and my friends and acquaintances quit, freighter ganking will be pretty much dead forever, nobody is interested in picking it up much less putting in the large amount of time and effort required.

Except when people do it as a group activity like they did in the past, there are cycles in the game, people stop new ones come along, that you lot cornered the freighter ganking with massed alt accounts is part of the reason why others did not start doing it.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Your imaginary fairytale game after bumping got nerfd is all in your head and a complete delusion of a dyndrome

Haha, from opposing and observing this many times, it is the issue with this play, it makes it too damn certain for you guys. The cycle will develop where people will move big loads with AP freighters and they will start getting ganked on gates because people can. You do not get Eve do you?

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/688 "2019-05-14T08:24:43Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> scratch yer eyes out tiger

Blah blah blah more deflection and ignoring of what we say. The daylight simply doesn’t filter through with you does it

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Except when people do it as a group activity like they did in the past, there are cycles in the game, people stop new ones come along, that you lot cornered the freighter ganking with massed alt accounts is part of the reason why others did not start doing it.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Haha, from opposing and observing this many times, it is the issue with this play, it makes it too damn certain for you guys. The cycle will develop where people will move big loads with AP freighters and they will start getting ganked on gates because people can

Lol so dumb 🤣

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You do not get Eve do you?

I get it far more than you will playing it for another 100 years

You’ll still be a risk averse carebear who complains about ganking even when nobody does it anymore because the lasting impression code gave you. You will remember us dumpstering you and you nonstop failing till the day you die

Rent free baby

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/689 "2019-05-14T08:53:46Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Blah blah blah more deflection and ignoring of what we say. The daylight simply doesn’t filter through with you does it

You have to time the loot scooping, you do a lot of pre-positioning and the like and of course you have to be ready to try to counter the loot scooper. I am glad to see people doing it, and you seem to be upset about it. Does that mean you are giving up because of it?

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Thieves have the absolute advantage when looting. No risk and no other tasks. When I’m lagging from 30 clients they literally just have to loot

There are a number of people doing it now, and this is why your timing and ability to bump gives you an advantage in scooping loot. However while you may want to go down this path based on your lag because you have to multi-box due to your desire to take all the loot to pay for your massed accounts this is a detail of freighter ganking as a whole and wholly based on the fact that you are a solo player multi-boxing.

My issue with bumping starts at the base that it is consequence free aggression in hisec, followed by the fact that it can happen for hours and allows you to control the location of the gank and the time of the gank so all your pieces are fully in place enabling you to multi-box efficiently. The fact that you can multi-box this at all is wrong and I wish to make this so more players get involved which is more likely to happen without bumping.

Let’s say that bumping like this ends, and you three guys give up because your “I win” button has gone, people will start to auto pilot and put too much stuff in and then groups will go and gank them because they can. So I don’t give a rats ass about you three multi-boxers.

The fact is that bumping as in a solo player run Macherial for ransom cannot be countered by a freighter and he just has to sit and wait it out is rather poor gameplay. Now that you three are giving up people will just log because that is the easiest way to get away. So hurry up and give up because of loot scoopers.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> You’ll still be a risk averse carebear who complains about ganking even when nobody does it anymore because the lasting impression code gave you. You will remember us dumpstering you and you nonstop failing till the day you die

Salty…

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 9:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/690 "2019-05-14T09:21:07Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> The daylight simply doesn’t filter through with you does it

That’s … man, I like it. I’ll try remembering this one.

Thank you for not abandoning us. I feared you might.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Salty…

Even if it might be salt, it’s still not wrong. 😃  
You don’t even dare accepting the challenge of a sole -10 in a 1.0!  
_(sole … get it?? WORD PUN, YAY! :D)_

YEAH I TOTALLY HAD TO RUB THAT UNDER YOUR NOSE AGAIN! 😊

Man, I miss the forums. Not posting enough.  
Too much reading, learning and enjoying rising crypto prices!

_\*lights up a 100 euro bill\*_

WOOHOOOOO FIRE! 😃

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/691 "2019-05-14T09:34:30Z")

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> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> Even if it might be salt, it’s still not wrong. 😃

He is salty…

> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> You don’t even dare accepting the challenge of a sole -10 in a 1.0!

If it makes you happy 😛

> [@Solecist\_Project](#):
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> Man, I miss the forums. Not posting enough.

I thought you were posting quite often, but you do seem more relaxed then you were previously, which is a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 9:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/692 "2019-05-14T09:40:17Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You have to time the loot scooping, you do a lot of pre-positioning and the like and of course you have to be ready to try to counter the loot scooper

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> There are a number of people doing it now, and this is why your timing and ability to bump gives you an advantage in scooping loot.

what pre positioning, how dumb are you? You launch probes and press warp in the 20 seconds we’re shooting the freighter. It really isnt rocket science

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> The fact that you can multi-box this at all is wrong and I wish to make this so more players get involved which is more likely to happen without bumping.

Go play a different game then, the whole game is based around multiple accounts

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> you three guys give up because your “I win” button has gone,

We already quit u dense ■■■■ Lol

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> The fact is that bumping as in a solo player run Macherial for ransom cannot be countered by a freighter and he just has to sit and wait it out is rather poor gameplay.

I know you dont understand what eve is about so let me tell you. It isnt fair and its balance is largely about rock paper scissors. Machariels are the scissors and a bit fat pve ship is the paper, if you want to stop it bring another machariel or a frigate to warp out

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> people will start to auto pilot and put too much stuff in and then groups will go and gank them because they can.

Just some bullcrap you keep spouting that is a total fantasy

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Salty…

The truth causes tears for you, which are full of salt

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/693 "2019-05-14T09:48:42Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> what pre positioning, how dumb are you? You launch probes and press warp in the 20 seconds we’re shooting the freighter. It really isnt rocket science

If you are unable to work out what I mean on that…, wow…

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Go play a different game then, the whole game is based around multiple accounts

I would define what you are doing as game breaking multi-boxing, multiple accounts are what you need to play this game and a minimum is two accounts imo.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> We already quit u dense ■■■■ Lol

Loot scoopers, lag and boredom got you at last, great stuff.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> I know you dont understand what eve is about so let me tell you. It isnt fair and its balance is largely about rock paper scissors. Machariels are the scissors and a bit fat pve ship is the paper, if you want to stop it bring another machariel or a frigate to warp out

So to deal with a solo naff mechanic bumper I have to have multiple accounts, does not sound like rock paper scissors to me…

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Just some bullcrap you keep spouting that is a total fantasy

Human nature mate, people will go back to doing it and the cycle starts again.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> The truth causes tears for you, which are full of salt

Which is what you keep doing.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 9:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/694 "2019-05-14T09:54:59Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> If you are unable to work out what I mean on that…, wow…

if you had anything your big fat mouth would have spewed it out

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I would define what you are doing as game breaking multi-boxing, multiple accounts are what you need to play this game and a minimum is two accounts imo.

Yeh lets put some abritrary limit on how many is acceptable cos im dracvlad and too trash to use more than 2 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> Loot scoopers, lag and boredom got you at last, great stuff.

You said I have an advantage looting, I said I didnt and showed why, lets just now say im complaining about it and stopped playing because of it LOL

You just twist whatever I say, It’s literally all you can do when you get ■■■■ on by facts

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> So to deal with a solo naff mechanic bumper I have to have multiple accounts, does not sound like rock paper scissors to me…

Like seriously? Are you a complete retard?

You’re an actually drooler with 70 iq

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 10:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/695 "2019-05-14T10:00:16Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> if you had anything your big fat mouth would have spewed it out

Salty…

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Yeh lets put some abritrary limit on how many is acceptable cos im dracvlad and too trash to use more than 2 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Salty…

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> You said I have an advantage looting, I said I didnt and showed why

You still have an advantage in loot scooping, you are just not prepared to admit it because your focus is on your lag issues.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> lets just now say im complaining about it and stopped playing because of it LOL
> 
> You just twist whatever I say, It’s literally all you can do when you get ■■■■ on by facts

You can say whatever you want mate.

And your reasons for giving up are your reasons, I can only guess at them from the bull that you sprout.

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Like seriously? Are you a complete retard?
> 
> You’re an actually drooler with 70 iq

People need a minimum IQ of around 80 to be able to participate in a functioning democracy. My IQ is significantly above that level. I always find people throwing the word retard around like that a bit sad, but that is you isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/696 "2019-05-14T10:02:56Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> You still have an advantage in loot scooping, you are just not prepared to admit it because your focus is on your lag issues.

Theyre on the wreck the same time as me. Lets just keep lying ey?

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> People need a minimum IQ of around 80 to be able to participate in a functioning democracy. My IQ is significantly above that level. I always find people throwing the word retard around like that a bit sad, but that is you isn’t it?

 ![dracvlad](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/5/a5ec870a1dcc8e09b3d4275bb85463dfbf046ae8.jpeg)  
I took a photo of you when you were typing up more garbage

I’ll end it with this lovely picture of you. Arguing with you is a complete waste of time when the other side has 70iq 🤣

Edit: Just one sad little boy and his flag button

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 10:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/697 "2019-05-14T10:07:47Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Theyre on the wreck the same time as me. Lets just keep lying ey?

LOL…

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> I’ll end it with this lovely picture of you. Arguing with you is a complete waste of time when the other side has 70iq 🤣

Sad…, I have never lost a freighter…

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**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/698 "2019-05-14T10:40:04Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I thought you were posting quite often, but you do seem more relaxed then you were previously, which is a good thing.

Always depends! Some days it’s more, the last days I barely posted at all.

Some times I post before coffee!  
That’s always a mistake!  
Biiiig mistake!

😊

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/699 "2019-05-14T18:58:59Z")

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> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> Still crying about wreck HP and bumping lollolol  
> 10 mil of cats/thrashers or 2 nados is waaay to expensive I guess 😂

This _is_ quite hilarious.

Every time Drac cries about this, he is highlighting how truly incompetent he and the rest of AG are.

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**Author:** ![Australian\_Excellence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/australian_excellence/32/367782_2.png) [@Australian\_Excellence](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Australian_Excellence)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 9:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/700 "2019-05-14T21:26:02Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> This _is_ quite hilarious.
> 
> Every time Drac cries about this, he is highlighting how truly incompetent he and the rest of AG are.

The truth is with how pathetic and autistic the agers are (some spending 40+ hours a week failing to stop players from blowing spaceships up) they could have made ganking freighters completely miserable if they weren’t complete idiots. The tools are all there, the brain power just isn’t

He’s a perfect specimen of the incompetence, low intelligence, anger and salt of the average ager. They’d rather cry and ask for nerfs than play the game and work with the mechanics like code does

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 11:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/701 "2019-05-14T23:24:39Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> This _is_ quite hilarious.
> 
> Every time Drac cries about this, he is highlighting how truly incompetent he and the rest of AG are.

It just proves how try hard you lot are, because to gank takes money and if there is no money then no gank. That you pretend that you don’t know that makes me laugh, a lot…

> [@Australian\_Excellence](#):
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> The truth is with how pathetic and autistic the agers are (some spending 40+ hours a week failing to stop players from blowing spaceships up) they could have made ganking freighters completely miserable if they weren’t complete idiots. The tools are all there, the brain power just isn’t
> 
> He’s a perfect specimen of the incompetence, low intelligence, anger and salt of the average ager. They’d rather cry and ask for nerfs than play the game and work with the mechanics like code does

You say that but you always just say that, but never anything of substance, just hot air and such guff. What a loser…

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**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2019, 11:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/702 "2019-05-14T23:29:22Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> It just proves how try hard you lot are, because to gank takes money and if there is no money then no gank.

Lmao you’re talking to someone who regularly ganks at a loss. Try another excuse for your incompetence. 🤣

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/703 "2019-05-15T04:47:16Z")

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> [@Galaxy\_Pig](#):
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> Every time Drac cries about this, he is highlighting how truly incompetent he and the rest of AG are

I’ve started just scrolling past Dracvlad, because I know Galaxy will eventually provide a comprehensive TLDR summary.

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**Author:** ![Kaylee\_Rayl](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaylee_rayl/32/130709_2.png) [@Kaylee\_Rayl](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaylee_Rayl)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 9:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/704 "2019-05-16T21:50:54Z")

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A ripped machariel, bumping a fat freighter… gankers care 💗 for your well-being !

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**Author:** ![Francios\_Gaterau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/francios_gaterau/32/207326_2.png) [@Francios\_Gaterau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Francios_Gaterau)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/705 "2019-05-16T22:49:47Z")

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@Aquaros_Armincata There’s no crying in space.

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**Author:** ![Francios\_Gaterau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/francios_gaterau/32/207326_2.png) [@Francios\_Gaterau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Francios_Gaterau)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2019, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/getting-bumped-in-a-freight-highsec-should-make-the-bumper-flagged/143636/706 "2019-05-16T22:54:18Z")

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@Solecist_Project I see what you did there. Well played…Well played.

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