# Give haulers an edge...some thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** Player Features & Ideas\ **Created:** [May 23, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486 "2019-05-23T15:51:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muriel_en_daire/32/150061_2.png) [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muriel_en_Daire)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/41 "2019-05-23T22:09:36Z")
Well, this got away from me but apparently the gate holograms already give you the kill info: ![Stargate_TravelIcons](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/e/de952765d5f09d0b2808b300982bb70d3a664062.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/darkestkhan_eriker/32/390091_2.png) [@darkestkhan\_Eriker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/darkestkhan_Eriker)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 10:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/42 "2019-05-23T22:10:33Z")
> [@Nep\_Chan](#): > > Well, for a DST if you’re travelling through lowsec then tank isn’t as necessary, but for highsec only a maxtank DST can outtank a maxtank freighter. You normally wouldn’t bring a freighter through lowsec would you? Actually, I do that quite often 😃 but I do have webber at hand and scout the system ahead to know if it even makes sense to jump… and always only few jumps (no more than 2). ---
**Author:** ![Frank\_Truck](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/frank_truck/32/287666_2.png) [@Frank\_Truck](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Frank_Truck)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2019, 11:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/43 "2019-05-23T23:23:03Z")
> [@Nep\_Chan](#): > > Well, for a DST if you’re travelling through lowsec then tank isn’t as necessary, but for highsec only a maxtank DST can outtank a maxtank freighter. You normally wouldn’t bring a freighter through lowsec would you? It doesn’t matter, unless you have a fleet coming to rescue you. Once you get caught more tank = more waiting to be killed, dead either way. ---
**Author:** ![Nep\_Chan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nep_chan/32/136784_2.png) [@Nep\_Chan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nep_Chan)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/44 "2019-05-24T01:31:01Z")
If you get caught in highsec, more tank = more chance of concord showing up in time to kill the attackers. If you’re going through lowsec, you should’ve been using a blockade runner ---
**Author:** ![Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muriel_en_daire/32/150061_2.png) [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muriel_en_Daire)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 2:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/45 "2019-05-24T02:10:50Z")
Noted, but blockade runners dont have the storage capacity. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 2:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/46 "2019-05-24T02:27:13Z")
Want to give haulers an edge? Give them friends. Problem solved. ---
**Author:** ![Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muriel_en_daire/32/150061_2.png) [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muriel_en_Daire)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/47 "2019-05-24T02:29:04Z")
> Want to give haulers an edge? Give them friends. Problem solved. Where can I buy some? ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/48 "2019-05-24T03:12:32Z")
[https://forums.eveonline.com/c/council-of-stellar-management/csm-campaigns](https://forums.eveonline.com/c/council-of-stellar-management/csm-campaigns) 🤣 😜 ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/49 "2019-05-24T03:20:51Z")
> [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > MWD/cloak is an unintended and such a complex maneuver (timing is everything) There isn’t anything complex about clicking a couple of buttons, or better using keyboard shortcuts. It’s straight forward and being unintended doesn’t lower its value as a defensive tactic. ---
**Author:** ![Jint\_Hikaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jint_hikaru/32/387656_2.png) [@Jint\_Hikaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jint_Hikaru)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 7:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/50 "2019-05-24T07:10:38Z")
> [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > Again, it comes down to “game play.” If I cant do something because Im dependant on an alt account or an unreliable ally, then there isnt much “playing” going on. There is a reason this is an MMO. if you want to restrict yourself to solo only, then you are never going to be able to do some things that work better with more than one pilot. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 11:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/51 "2019-05-24T11:43:44Z")
Pretty sure there is literally a forum dedicated to that even. ---
**Author:** ![Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugh_crow-slave/32/441552_2.png) [@Lugh\_Crow-Slave](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugh_Crow-Slave)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 11:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/52 "2019-05-24T11:49:09Z")
yeah… except it’s not unintended. CCP has actually patched it out twice (that is just how many times i know of) and after it was pointed out ccp re added it. While it was originally emergent gameplay it is very much an intend mechanic at this point. > [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > MWD/cloak is an unintended and such a complex maneuver (timing is everything) that it should be standard mechanics for transports. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 11:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/53 "2019-05-24T11:54:08Z")
Based on their fitting habits if you give haulers an edge they will cut themselves with it. 😏 > **Spoiler** > > I’ve just won the thread. :dealwithitparrot: ---
**Author:** ![Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muriel_en_daire/32/150061_2.png) [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muriel_en_Daire)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/54 "2019-05-24T13:45:57Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/d/2/d2af50e022b25f043dc69dd6716c4c5f404c9f9e.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Lugburz](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lugburz/32/486230_2.png) [@Lugburz](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lugburz)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2019, 6:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/55 "2019-05-27T06:14:19Z")
> [@slobo\_slobovitch](#): > > The thing is that writing between lines is not good enough It’s ‘‘reading between the lines’’ Your command of the english language is poor at best. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/56 "2019-05-28T07:43:10Z")
> [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > No they dont. Yes they do. If you’re playing mainly an hauler, this is a good read for you : [Blockade Runners](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Blockade_Runners). If you’re too busy searching for the right passage, lemme show it for you : ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/e/0/e06ba883331830ea6fcfdc9f7b53265a5ddc5931.jpeg) > [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > Cyno requires a willing friend or an alt account. **Both of which I dont have nor should be required to accomplish this.** This is a multiplayer game. Suck it up, and accept it, the door is open otherwise. Having trusty friends to help you WILL benefit you, even in a carrier as dull as space trucker. And as my picture above said, you can always ask a friend or train up an alt to use Black Ops battleships, and move around using their bridges. ---
**Author:** ![Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muriel_en_daire/32/150061_2.png) [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muriel_en_Daire)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/57 "2019-05-28T21:21:55Z")
> [@Sasha\_Viderzei](#): > > This is a multiplayer game. Suck it up, and accept it, the door is open otherwise. Well Im sure CCP will be interested in you encouraging me to leave the game. I thought “sandbox” meant play as you wish? But your highness sees fit to tell me to leave the game becuase I dont play they way s/he does. Nice. And this in a “features and ideas” forum. LOL!! and they say EVE players arent a-holes. Do us a favor…never reproduce. Your kids dont deserve it. ---
**Author:** ![Scoots\_Choco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scoots_choco/32/262262_2.png) [@Scoots\_Choco](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scoots_Choco)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/58 "2019-05-28T21:23:06Z")
> [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > Well Im sure CCP will be interested in you encouraging me to leave the game. I’ll subscribe an alt to make up for you leaving. It’ll be fine. > [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > I thought “sandbox” meant play as you wish? Yeah, play as you want. But you’re suggesting a change to the game and you better be willing to listen to criticism, which apparently, you cannot handle. ---
**Author:** ![Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/muriel_en_daire/32/150061_2.png) [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Muriel_en_Daire)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2019, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/59 "2019-05-28T21:24:21Z")
Reported for encouraging a player to leave the game and forum stalking. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Viderzei](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_viderzei/32/256790_2.png) [@Sasha\_Viderzei](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Viderzei)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 7:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486/60 "2019-05-29T07:05:27Z")
> [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > Well Im sure CCP will be interested in you encouraging me to leave the game. They have better things to do, I’m afraid. > [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > But your highness sees fit to tell me to leave the game becuase I dont play they way s/he does. Nice. As long as I review my reply, I never saw one spot where I told you to play my way. EVE is, and has always been, a Harden The ■■■■ Up game. If this is good for you, then perfect. If it isn’t, well, this game isn’t fit for you. > [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > And this in a “features and ideas” forum. This part of the forum is overrun by trolls and people that won’t take your ideas seriously, and there’s nothing you, or I, or anybody can do about it. > [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > LOL!! and they say EVE players arent a-holes. Well, EVE players are literally known for being a holes playing a a-hole game, where backstabbing is common thing. Might want to do your research a bit on that topic. > [@Muriel\_en\_Daire](#): > > Do us a favor…never reproduce. Your kids dont deserve it. Like I’m going to listen to any of you on that matter! Not only will I have kids, I will find where you lived, go there, and let them play with an instrument like a trumpet or an electric guitar in front of your yard at 6 in the morning on a Sunday, for the first time in their lives. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/give-haulers-an-edge-some-thoughts/161486.md?page=4)