# GM please close as Dracvlad is being a tool **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 24, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018 "2021-12-24T13:50:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/61 "2021-12-25T19:28:27Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > I’m going to spend Christmas day crying into my Dixie Cup of bag-in-the-box wine and start forum fights. Bless your heart. Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/62 "2021-12-25T20:16:57Z")
Selective quoting again. I detailed that I had to move to the person, I said place at the time which you translated to spot. He was complacent yes, but that is the skill of the hunter. I explained that I had used the ability to locate someone’s safe spot, you decided to translate it into something different. I kept saying what I had done, you kept going back to your original mis-translation. I was just pointing out what I had done and how it could have related to what happened to this person. As I said you took what I said and turned it into something else. And this is why you are no longer a decent poster on the forums, you are acting like a ganker shrill more and more. What was funny was the several people contacting me by evemail telling me that I was indeed correct, but did not want to warn people about this. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/63 "2021-12-25T20:17:30Z")
Says the person who is boasting about ninja mining moons in hisec, that is weak, very weak. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/64 "2021-12-25T20:22:58Z")
Insulting me won’t change the fact that you’re wrong. 💏 But I do love the tears. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/65 "2021-12-25T20:28:10Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I was just pointing out what I had done and how it could have related to what happened to this person. There is zero relation to what happened to this person. You’re just wiggling and reaching trying to save yourself, but you can’t, because the simple fact is: When you’re wrong, you’re wrong. And you’re wrong. 💏 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/66 "2021-12-25T20:40:54Z")
Except you are wrong again and you speak in absolutes, you have no idea about the OP’s situation and neither did I. The safe spot I located was three levels in, so the same. He does not say that he warped there uncloaked, nor did he say whether it was a safe spot that he used all the time. So I answered based on what I did so he understood and gave him the advice to burn away from that spot. When you reply to people in the forums you don’t have the full details, you have to make assumptions, and my assumption was that perhaps it was the same situation as my hunt. Place does not mean Spot, Scipio acted as if I was saying that I had arrived in the same spot, I said place for a reason. It is however easy enough to drop a can and start orbiting with a fast ship, which is what I then did having seen him come in uncloaked. I think this is how in the end I decloaked my prey and blew his ship up and podded him, but it could have been slightly different it was a long time ago. If my prey had had the brains to do what I suggested I would not have blown him up, simple as that… But I am talking to you, a guy who bragged about ninja mining hisec moons as if it was an achievement, which is hilarious. It is not an insult, it is talking about what you see to be skilled play, and it ain’t… ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/67 "2021-12-25T20:44:02Z")
Look, the word is _shill_, not ‘shrill’. INFORMAL•NORTH AMERICAN _noun_ 1. an accomplice of a confidence trickster or swindler who poses as a genuine customer to entice or encourage others. “I used to be a shill in a Reno gambling club” _verb_ 1. act or work as a shill. “your husband in the crowd could shill for you” Sorry to be pedantic but it is irritating (and Santa didn’t show - again!). ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/68 "2021-12-25T20:52:53Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Selective quoting again. I detailed that I had to move to the person Those are the first three quotes, in order. There’s nothing selective. You didn’t qualify anything to the OP and only started walking back what you’d previously written in response to questions and challenges about it. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > As I said you took what I said and turned it into something else. No. It’s all there for anyone to go read. What you wrote, when and when and why you started to walk it back. It’s as simple as clinking the link and reading through the thread. Must be a miserable existence to not be able to just admit to being sloppy with wording at best, or completely wrong at worst. No one is perfect. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/69 "2021-12-25T20:54:05Z")
I never walked anything back I said place, you assumed spot, it went on from there. You made the assumption that I arrived in the same spot and decloaked him. Place does not equal spot, simple fact mate. The sloppiness is you assuming it to be different, your fault mate and you never had the guts to admit you were wrong. Are you really an Aussie, all the Aussies I know were upfront. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/70 "2021-12-25T20:54:45Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I never walked anything back I said place, you assumed spot, it went on from there. I assumed nothing. I asked for clarification and you doubled down on it meaning within 2km. LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/71 "2021-12-25T20:56:33Z")
I was talking about what I said on place, you decided to add the 2km in for some stupid reason. I did not at the time assume that you were stupid enough to insist on the decloak, and landing within 2km. The sloppiness was your mis-interpretation on place to spot and then me not picking up that you were stupidly saying that. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/72 "2021-12-25T20:58:56Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I was talking about what I said on place, you decided to add the 2km in for some stupid reason. I asked about it, in that original thread (the quote is up above). You later walked that back in the thread, because you didn’t actually get the bookmark within 2km, despite saying originally that you did. This is a crack up. One of the dumbest explanations ever given to an OP and still can’t just admit that you got it wrong. Still triggered all these years later. ---
**Author:** ![Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xiombarg_ohmsford/32/172425_2.png) [@Xiombarg\_Ohmsford](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xiombarg_Ohmsford)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/73 "2021-12-25T21:00:17Z")
Come on guys calm down and let us chew on some Unicorn Balls we all know high-sec is fairy space, full of mythical isk faucets and roaming gangs of gankers just waiting to take your hard-earned gains. Just to make light of this thread before it gets closed I’m going to post this xD ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/6/3/1638b33189e88bf808e29d49129052d422a332b9.jpeg) Now lets all chew together and make Eve a better place. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 9:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/74 "2021-12-25T21:09:31Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I was talking about what I said on place, you decided to add the 2km in for some stupid reason. Read the OP. It’s been 5 years, there’s no excuse for you to be this ignorant. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > The sloppiness was your mis-interpretation on place to spot and then me not picking up that you were stupidly saying that. Because in context of that discussion, “place”, “spot”, “location” **must necessarily** all = within 2km. You think you’re being clever and gaslighting your way out of an L, but really, you’re stuck with the L but now you look foolish on top of that. Good job. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/75 "2021-12-25T21:16:34Z")
> [@Xuixien](#): > > but now you look foolish on top of that. Funny thing is, he keeps bringing it up (this is the third time). It was 5 years ago. Crazy that he can’t let it go after all this time. No one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes. That mistake was years ago, surely it’s time to move on. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/76 "2021-12-25T21:19:35Z")
> [@Scipio\_Artelius](#): > > Funny thing is, he keeps bringing it up (this is the third time). It was 5 years ago. Crazy that he can’t let it go after all this time. No one is perfect and everyone makes mistakes. That mistake was years ago, surely it’s time to move on. Toxic narcissistis and people like them have _ **very** _ unstable and insecure egos. Any “slight”, no matter how mild, no matter if real or just _imagined_, is unacceptable to them. It’s irrelevant whether he’s wrong or not - he’ll just keep beating on the subject over and over until he wears you down. Since this is an **existential issue** for him, literally a feeling of _life or death_ due to identity destabalization, he will do this for 5 more years until he wears you down and you give up and let him have the “win”. That’s how sad and in need of help he is. EDIT: HA. HA. HA. HA. HA. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/b/d/0bd9cd427079143bc78e18c4f294980dea7ae5a3.png) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/77 "2021-12-25T22:09:30Z")
I replied to your stupid question on 2.5 km based on going three deep on BM’s. I thought it was utterly stupid of you to suggest that in the first place. Also I did not want to give too many details as I was using that method on someone else. I never said I got to within 2km, you said that I did. And as I said you never had the guts to walk that back which is why I think you are a complete arsehole. But then again you did that just to attack me, I just think it makes you look bad. Show me where I said that I actually landed on him and decloaked him, you can’t, because I never said that. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/6/7/6/67619fc399f5b7bf4b85542a4344ace62f5b7812.png) And all that proved was that he was in fact stupid. And I hoped that someone else blew up his alt because he was stupid. In any case I will keep pointing this out whenever Scipio pretends he knows what he is talking about. And I have no concerns at raising this again and again to show just how bad you forum warriors are. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 11:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/78 "2021-12-25T23:10:32Z")
Is the argument here that two ships with the same speed make a bookmark in the same “place” or “spot” or whatever on the same server tick? Because that most certainly isn’t true, and can be tested by making a bookmark on two different characters in a fleet warp together using a KVM switch (although manually pressing “Enter” to create the location would be more “organic”). We’ve had quite a bit of confirmation from CCP that everything doesn’t happen in “one-second ticks” and that various commands are queued up for processing and are processed at different intervals (see the discussions about sub-2s lock times that happened some time ago). ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/79 "2021-12-25T23:18:46Z")
Go and look at the youtube video done by the guy who was smartbombing people in shuttles in that low sec system that connect Caldari and Amarr space, he also did it in Uedama too. After you have seen that then think about it. That you don’t know about it is no biggie. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/80 "2021-12-25T23:20:01Z")
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