# GM please close as Dracvlad is being a tool **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 24, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018 "2021-12-24T13:50:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/121 "2021-12-26T12:06:51Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Your hypothetical scenario is basically an equilateral triangle. Yes, but no. I admit, I did simplify my calculation a bit, but due to how warp acceleration and deceleration works, the bookmarks aren’t spread linearly and every warp from one point A to another point B produces new possible bookmark spots unique to that warp trajectory between A and B. And warping from B to A produces a different set, while warping fom the second bookmark in set A-B to bookmark three from B-A again produces a set of possible bookmarks unique to the warp of A-B2 to B-A3. As such, the order of the warps matters too, which I think is not the case for your example (although I could be wrong). With the simplification that each warp takes 10 ticks and therefore produces 10 possible bookmark spots, this results in 1000 options if you know bookmark 1 is made from Celestial A-\>B, bookmark 2 from Celestial C-\> bookmark 1 and the final safe from bookmark 2-\>bookmark 1. (And for example if it is unknown whether the final safe is made from bookmark 1-\> 2 or in warp from 2-\>1, then our possible amount of locations doubles to 2000.) While your equilateral triangle correctly says that with sides taking 10 ticks a middle path takes less time (8.66 rounded to 9 in EVE’s tick system), this variation isn’t really significant as I already made the rather impactful simplification of assuming all warps take 10 ticks. As warps can take much more or much fewer ticks than that based on distances and warp speeds, I wanted to avoid that to keep the example simple. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/122 "2021-12-26T12:17:17Z")
Oh, but the trig accounts for that. You’re always beginning with 30 possibilities, then multiplying by (10 \* 1) for the first level, another (10 \* 2) for the second level, another (10 \* 3) for the third level, etc. The forums keep formatting the numbers all weird. The point here is that if the safe spot is just 2 bookmarks deep, Vlad would **only** need to make up to _about_ 300 warps, and not a whopping 1,000. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/e/8/5/e85ede87d2a072efc74783fe964349f6cbd48e27.png) ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/123 "2021-12-26T12:18:27Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I was making the picture but the lines were all crooked until I remembered the line feature in MS Paint. Ah thank you. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/124 "2021-12-26T12:54:45Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Shrills, it is a joke. Is it? Really? Of course!! (roflmao…) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/125 "2021-12-26T13:01:02Z")
Employing nominalized adjectives is a very advanced forum debate tactic. We have no chance. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/a/3/ca37098c87517d9c5bda2e8ab1be32fe7bd1d8b7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/126 "2021-12-26T13:50:06Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Look at the shrills gasping at air and trying to explain that place = spot, lmao. Shills\*. You’ve been corrected multiple times. You seem to have a _fetish_ for being _wrong_. 😉 Also, considering the context of the OP from five years ago (decloaking someone at a safe spot), then yes: “place”, “location”, and “spot” all mean “within 2km-2.5km”. Ignoring this fact won’t make it go away, and thus, you are still… …wrong. 😃 > [@Dracvlad](#): > > You seem emotional. Thankfully CCP have created the observational array which means I just pop one of these into space and if they are AFK I will get them. I don’t have to go through this level of work now which took a huge amount of effort and observation. But I rather like to think that this tool (me) did something that many players would have no idea how to do and would not have put the effort in either. > > I pass through WH space quite often, but I have never lived in a WH, I rather like local to be honest. Sounds like a cop out to me. Are you unable to… **rise** … to the challenge? I’d see a Dr about that… > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Yes because I knew the celestials and I knew the approximate location of the person. This is irrelevant and doesn’t apply to the OP from five years ago. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > That is because I am superior to you. ![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/e/c/7ec4672c9b0e931bf0c24d0bd0bce0978014c5f0.webp) Tell us more about your dreams, lmao > [@Dracvlad](#): > > PS Jayze fitzpatrick. I have you blocked completely and I never read your crap, enjoy wasting your time. I can see you making a post, will be rubbish. Oh look a hidden reply that I will never read, LMFAO. > > That was interesting, I saw Destiny making a post, then nothing, Then Jayce started making a post posted it, no sign of Destiny until that point then Destiny starts making a post, hmmmmmmm, obviously… I don’t blame you for blocking them… they’re pretty much ripping you to pieces in their posts and making you look really bad. I guess that’s how you maintain your “superiority” ( 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 ), you just block everyone you thrashes you so you don’t have to face it. This is called “the narcissistic ostrich”. lmao ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/127 "2021-12-26T13:51:04Z")
Am I supposed to be hurt or feel bad because a person who managed to ninja mine moons in hisec thinks I am wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/128 "2021-12-26T13:54:16Z")
I guess I’ve thrashed Dacvlad against the wall too hard, he can barely type one sentence response to me now. ☹ Go get some rest little one, and daydream about winning internet arguments. When you’re feeling better, we’ll be waiting here to give you another thrashing. ❤ 💏 ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 1:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/129 "2021-12-26T13:54:46Z")
Oh dear I should go biomass. LMFAO ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/130 "2021-12-26T13:58:38Z")
Just letting everyone know that Xuixien has been **blocked** for the duration of one moon mining op. That will be all, carry on. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/131 "2021-12-26T13:59:19Z")
You blocked them? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/132 "2021-12-26T14:00:39Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Oh dear I should go biomass. LMFAO I’m surprised you didn’t biomass after that debacle with Knowledgeminer, TBQH. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/133 "2021-12-26T14:05:35Z")
As if I am bothered by that. In the end Knowledgeminer got kicked from the AG channels for ganking. Therefore I have no reason at all to interact with him anymore. As far as I am concerned when he started to gank alongside CODE it was a great day, because I would not have to watch him alienate so many people in the AG chat channels. But thanks for reminding me of that. Another happy event. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/134 "2021-12-26T14:06:11Z")
Permanent temporary block applied to Destiny Corrupted for the duration of one Heisenberg uncertainty principle experiment oh god what is happening I am fading out of existence please send h ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/135 "2021-12-26T14:07:19Z")
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/136 "2021-12-26T14:10:49Z")
I just want to point out that there was a fun friendly post, with a healthy vibrant community and a positive uplifting message, like this: [https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-safety-and-i-love-aiko/343071](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/i-love-safety-and-i-love-aiko/343071) but it was instalocked, while “Dracvlad is a tool” remains a top tier content epicentre. Personally, I preferred the other thread. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/137 "2021-12-26T14:15:19Z")
Yeah yeah that’s cool, but what’s really interesting is how everyone was laughing at you in that thread and making jokes about you. Here’s some of my favorite replies: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/1/e/91e87dcfc4205b6e1efecf6564aaf768180e6751.png) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/1/2/a/12ab8e1ae6728d314e017f1d626772d558b72341.png) (^ Looks like Dracvlad never rises to challenges! LMAO) ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/d/0/b/d0b93feaf08466be09aa0f90aded71c67ce00359.png) (^Dracvlad admits he’s weak) My god this thread delivers. It’s a gold mine! I have to be honest Dracvlad, I used to always just ignore you for the most part because you seemed like the typical basic, toxic - but otherwise unintelligent and unimportant - troll. But I see you are so good for a real belly laugh! I had no idea what I was missing! ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/138 "2021-12-26T14:17:26Z")
To waste your time and spend effort to find that makes me very amused, obviously me talking about your great ability in ninja mining hisec moons had such a major impact on your own self worth. Thank you for giving me a huge belly laugh. For a start if I block people it is because they are either just 100% nasty trolls with nothing interesting to say, such as Dum Dum and Ramoana, or went too far stupidly such as Aiko. I block other people when they get too excited and I am bored with them, like you very soon. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/139 "2021-12-26T14:19:30Z")
I like how Drac is emphasizing that his laugh is better. He’s always got to be the best. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2021, 2:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gm-please-close-as-dracvlad-is-being-a-tool/343018/140 "2021-12-26T14:23:02Z")
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