# Going red on HP, don't fear it **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 16, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187 "2019-11-16T19:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/185 "2019-11-19T16:26:54Z")
> [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](#): > > implication does not mean equasion… If both definitions imply each other, yes that means they are the same. > [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](#): > > One means… well theory, and other means underlying laws governing actual thing. Both are names that refer to the same exact thing. So in any case using one or the other make ZERO difference. > [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](#): > > Frankly for someone so constantly butthurt about people enjoying their game in a different way than You do it’s ironic that it’s you calling everyone else a “real life loser”. +1 ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/186 "2019-11-19T16:37:38Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > O HE DOES NOT. That’s intrinsic to QT. You have no idea what QT is, how it appeared… > And then you prove yourself wrong in the same sentence. Well actually he does…simply by not stating an explanation WHY it is like he thinks it is… He just spits out a presumption,walks into a dry room and let’s everybody else standing in the rain getting wet… THAT is heisenberg broken down to his core… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/187 "2019-11-19T16:53:28Z")
It’s not that he WANTS it to be that way. It is, that when using QT it MUST be that way. So claiming he “pulls it” is a nonsense. It’s intrinsic to QT. If you don’t agree with it - then you just don’t agree with QT. And then your whole “QT says this” is ball of sheets. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2019, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/188 "2019-11-19T16:59:51Z")
What does any of this quantum nonsense have to do with pathetic carebears and how they are bad at EVE? ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/189 "2019-11-20T00:05:14Z")
> [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](#): > > > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > > > So many losers. Losers. Literally real life losers. > > Honestly, I really would love to find out more about these people real lifes. > > It must be super interesting and depressing alike. > > Frankly for someone so constantly butthurt about people enjoying their game in a different way than You do it’s ironic that it’s you calling everyone else a “real life loser”. > > I may be wrong, but I’d say that if your real life was all so great and good You would not feel the need to throw the word “loser” on internet forums so often as You do. You’re not wrong, your observation is 1000% correct. ---
**Author:** ![Kelly\_Hashway](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kelly_hashway/32/170360_2.png) [@Kelly\_Hashway](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kelly_Hashway)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 12:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/190 "2019-11-20T00:34:41Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > PvE isn’t fighting. No video game is “fighting”. We’re only simulating “fight or flight” scenarios. You get to decide how you’ll spend your time, don’t let others dictate your style. Some people collect bugs in RL for God’s sake. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 1:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/191 "2019-11-20T01:07:50Z")
The only thing that bothers me about most people is that they can vote. Anyway, the real reason why PVe is not fighting is because the resources and missions are infinite. Mining would be fighting if systems could be overmined completely. Then it would be a first come first serve basis. Imagine an actual real reason to declare war. I think that the wardec concept came into existence under the pretense of resources being finite but the latter got dropped somewhere. Even missions. If it were possible to use up all of the available missions, or say the NPC rats decide to pull out after there are too many people “harvesting” them, then there would be more meaning to the desire - or need perhaps - to drive others away. Heck the ground pounders - Dust we called it and dustbin it went into - were based on some concept that planets would have to be fought for. Remember the special orbital bombardment ammo? Such concepts! Those were good times, having great expectations and hope and all that. Crowd-ism won in the end. ---
**Author:** ![Wolfmoon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wolfmoon/32/152508_2.png) [@Wolfmoon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wolfmoon)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/192 "2019-11-20T01:35:18Z")
To elitists, all that matters is their elitism. ---
**Author:** ![Eivar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eivar/32/178879_2.png) [@Eivar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eivar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 1:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/193 "2019-11-20T01:36:40Z")
> [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](#): > > The only thing that bothers me about most people is that they can vote. Some of them can breed, too 😮 ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 1:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/194 "2019-11-20T01:41:32Z")
> [@Eivar](#): > > Some of them can breed, too Don’t worry, PvE players will never manage that. ---
**Author:** ![Eivar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eivar/32/178879_2.png) [@Eivar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eivar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/195 "2019-11-20T02:44:38Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > > [@Eivar](#): > > > > Some of them can breed, too > > Don’t worry, PvE players will never manage that. I’m a PvE player these days and I’m here to tell you…YES WE CAN ❣😛 ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/196 "2019-11-20T03:27:25Z")
> [@Eivar](#): > > I’m a PvE player these days and I’m here to tell you…YES WE CAN Have you done a parternity test? Because I’m pretty sure your spouse cheated on you with a PvP player. ---
**Author:** ![Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abruzzi_oskold/32/279259_2.png) [@Abruzzi\_Oskold](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abruzzi_Oskold)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 3:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/197 "2019-11-20T03:49:19Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Self-perception and the reality…sometimes two totally different,even opposite approaches to the truth 🙂 Sometimes researchers think about things a bit too much and confuse themselves, then others delude themselves into thinking their ramblings have any semblance of being the truth. ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 3:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/198 "2019-11-20T03:54:07Z")
Hey I have a narrow urethra. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/1/316f9d14e82ec1ba5d0344de5f0e9ae73b36308a.png) ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 7:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/199 "2019-11-20T07:16:33Z")
STOP BULLYING ME YOU SICK FREAK! ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 7:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/200 "2019-11-20T07:18:28Z")
Anyhow … I’d like to point out that the haters tried coming up with “dictating how others play the game” ignoring that it’s the carebears who CONSTANTLY try to tell others how to play the game, because they refuse to acknowledge that it’s a PvP game and rather play by their own rules. The ones bitching about how people play the game by the rules _against them_ … … are the same people trying to tell others that they’re forcing gameplay on them. Nothing but hypocrites and real life losers, with DMC being one of the biggest of them all. Just look at him going “YEAH YOU TOLD HER!” … … like a tiny chihuahua barking behind a bigger one. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 7:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/201 "2019-11-20T07:30:21Z")
Ohhhhhh post #200! 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manweru_cemenotar/32/230368_2.png) [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manweru_Cemenotar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/202 "2019-11-20T08:49:26Z")
Good Day everyone in this lovely derailed thread, I hope You enjoyed Your evening, and are enjoying your morning (please do proper corrections based on Your timezone). > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Ohhhhhh post #200! 😊 grats 🙂 > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > ignoring that it’s the carebears who CONSTANTLY try to tell others how to play the game Frankly to be honest, my observation are slightly different on this matter. Sure there is once in a while one or two dudes starting a thread on forums suggesting to CCP some change that is more favourable to “carebears” than “PvP’ers”, but outside of those suggesting those changes and big old “just leave me alone goddammit” most forum activity I notice is code gankers whining how carebears are worst thing to walk the earth and how they should just enjoy PvP. Take this thread for nice example - dude was just saying to his fellow PvErs to not be afraid of “risky” plays in PvE - and what he got for it? bunch of of folks swarming all over him how he dared to say “fight” in relation to PvE, and how he should go for PvP because that’s only way to play the game that can ever be possible to be enjoyed by anyone. As for ingame I have never seen a “carebear” forcing anything on anyone - but I’ve seen a number of CODE. agents forcing themselves upon carebears. > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Have you done a parternity test? Because I’m pretty sure your spouse cheated on you with a PvP player. Ok that’s low, petty, and immature. Maybe when You grow up You will realize that real life hardly cares about whatever activity you may or may not perform in online game. > [@Wolfmoon](#): > > To elitists, all that matters is their elitism. True. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 2:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/204 "2019-11-20T14:02:41Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Sorry if the truth hurts, Your opinion is not truth. Your insults are not truth. They are just insults. And they are only made to hurt. So no you are not sorry if your insults could hurt, you are actually happy and that’s the only thing that makes you happy. The truth is that nobody cares about your opinion. And that the only person your insults hurt, are yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/manweru_cemenotar/32/230368_2.png) [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Manweru_Cemenotar)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/205 "2019-11-20T14:22:10Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > > [@Manweru\_Cemenotar](#): > > > > Ok that’s low, petty, and immature. Maybe when You grow up You will realize that real life hardly cares about whatever activity you may or may not perform in online game. > > Spoken like a jealous virgin who’s tired of watching PvP players sleeping with the people they love. Sorry if the truth hurts, but in the real world people can pick up on the kind of weakness and desperation that drives someone to PvE and _run the hell away_. I mean I have no idea how young (and/or naive) You need to be to believe any adult cares about You even playing your favorite l33t PvP game, but really any “jealousy” You may (somehow) see in the sentence You quoted is purely self-projected. That being said, for the sake of lowly entertainment I’ll now point out one little bit of flaw in Your reasoning - You know that “PvE players” can consist of both sexes right? 😉 > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > They are just insults. To be honest I wouldn’t even call them insults. They are weak, lowly attempts at insult, made by someone without knowledge of life. And only type of person I could ever see being actually insulted by this rambling, would be someone as naive and insecure as their author. Myself I am kind of sad seeing people wasting their youth on such silliness, but well what can You do really 😕 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187.md?page=9) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187.md?page=11)