# Going red on HP, don't fear it **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 16, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187 "2019-11-16T19:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/227 "2019-11-22T16:26:48Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > He in his approach is not far from an average trump supporter or a member of a sect… I am a trump supporter. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/228 "2019-11-22T18:52:00Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > So you think blackout was about removing PVP from null? > It would really interest me how you came to this interesting conclusion… WTF are you going on about with this straw man? Nowhere did I say that blackout was about removing PvP, I posted a hypothetical scenario that illustrates a point. Obviously CCP has not done it yet. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 8:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/229 "2019-11-22T20:29:03Z")
Thank you! Imagine a forum were they ban both the haters … … and those who enable the haters! It would be vastly different! A forum where moderation looks for false claims and lies with the help of the people. Where they ban disruptive behaviour and low quality trolling. Imagine a culture where people actually have to back up what they say, where it matters what you do and did in the game. A forum where people respect people for what they do and who they are, instead of what they wish to represent and project onto others! Imagine a forum where it is strictly forbidden to insult and or spread false claims about players or whole groups of players. Imagine a forum where obvious haters are being banned simply because it’s unacceptable to continuously spread lies and mistrust simply based on feelings with no actual substance in reality. It would cut away far more of the toxic waste running around here … … than most people would probably imagine. It would be awesome! Edit: And Trump supporters, because those people are fascist cancer. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/230 "2019-11-22T20:33:34Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > From the one who claims nonstop “everybody who does not do an activity I like is wrong”, this is priceless. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I am a trump supporter. Fascists should never be tolerated. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 8:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/231 "2019-11-22T20:47:18Z")
The forums like the sandbox should be open to accept all levels of play/banter, except real life threats or racism. As for Trump well these forums do not support politics either i’m sure Dorim Barsterlode will be along shortly Xd. In b4 lock. Maybe we can hook up in hek i’m low on sp I.E. no sp as this is a forum alt but im sure i can throw some antimatter your way. o7 I dock for no one regardless. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/232 "2019-11-22T21:04:34Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > I am a trump supporter. I am not surprised at all. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/233 "2019-11-22T21:06:11Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Fascists should never be tolerated. indeed, you should be banned form the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wavemistress_moidel/32/211447_2.png) [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wavemistress_Moidel)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/234 "2019-11-22T21:34:27Z")
I disagree Solecist has a long and historic policy of being controversial on these forums, he/she should not be banned anyone calling for that. Would be in my opinion classed as forum extremophiles who try to manipulate the forum meta. Even though I call for forum lock and antimatter all voices regardless should be heard.o7. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/235 "2019-11-22T21:34:41Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > indeed, you should be banned form the forum. This is all you have. All you can do. With nothing behind it. … To everyone else who isn’t trump supporting fascist cancer: This is what we’re letting talk on our forums. Everyone’s free to visit this “person’s” posting history and to observe all by himself what kind of cancer she brings. Take a good look. Take your time. Just look for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/236 "2019-11-22T21:58:26Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > . Would be in my opinion classed as forum extremophiles who try to manipulate the forum meta. and since he is the one calling for “Fascists should never be tolerated.”, this means he should be banned. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/237 "2019-11-22T22:03:36Z")
> [@Wavemistress\_Moidel](#): > > Even though I call for forum lock and antimatter all voices regardless should be heard.o7. But that’s the thing … they shouldn’t be. That’s how you breed fascists and radicals. This is independent of Anderson. Being a trump supporter is bad enough, being clueless about what it means to be a fascist is also bad enough, but let’s drop that sad excuse of a human being for a bit. Not everyone deserves a voice to be heard, because there are some seriously disturbing people who use this against you. When you tolerate the intolerant they _will_ overrun you. You know these people, they’re around here on the forums too. The ones who benefit the most from this “everyone deserves to be heard” nonsense are those who abuse it the most. Everyone else doesn’t give a ■■■■ and doesn’t actually act in a way that it’s problematic. These problematic people are also the biggest hypocrites, constantly claiming that it’s actually the others who are bad. They constantly declare themselves oppressed, or victims, or “think of the children” They benefit from the fact that plenty of idiots give them a platform to speak on, where they can keep screaming and screaming to attract and amass more and more and more of their kind, until they’ve reached enough people to eventually tip the balance of power into their favour. _That’s how this works. I kid you not. It’s how this works and there doesn’t even need to be a plan behind it. It’s how these ■■■■■■■ people work and they’re horrible._ The only thing saving us from this, here on the forums, is the fact that only a tiny minority of these assholes actually dare playing EVE. The sad part is that, over time, they’re still a growing crowd. Don’t believe me? Just look at people who claim that “PvPers want to force their playstyle onto us”. You know exactly that it’s the other way round, but that’s how this cancer works. You know this type of person. You know they post a lot. You know they’re dishonest and you know that they don’t give a single ■■■■ about anything else but “being right”, “getting rid of people who disagree” and "keeping a discussion going, no matter what\*. Don’t believe the last part? The afk cloaky thread exists solely because of that! It’s so ■■■■■■ up, for the most part did they manage to keep “RMT” out of the topic until some very wise person decided to bring the topic in, which then got pushed by likewisely (isthataword) wise people. Now it’s a thing ever since, though I haven’t really checked thoroughly in ages. There’s been no need. I’ve been watching all of this since 2013. Every single one of them is a problem and not worthy the freedom they are being granted, because someone who deliberately tries to use that freedom against everyone else does not deserve it. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/238 "2019-11-22T22:05:06Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > But that’s the thing … they shouldn’t be. > That’s how you breed fascists and radicals. That’s fascism. “Only my voice should be heard”. Pretty intolerant, and should make you be banned, according to yourself. > [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > You know this type of person. You know they post a lot. You know they’re dishonest and you know that they don’t give a single ■■■■ about anything else but “being right”, “getting rid of people who disagree” and "keeping a discussion going, no matter what\*. lol. that’s you. 100% you. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/239 "2019-11-22T22:07:48Z")
You have no idea what you’re talking about … … and you’re not worth being talked to. Have the last word. You need it. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/240 "2019-11-22T22:12:34Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > You have no idea what you’re talking about … so do you. Now you are making yourself the victim. Hoo poor you, being victim of your own intolerance. You’re pitiful. You keep throwing stones at people, and then complain that they dislike you. what a retard. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/241 "2019-11-22T22:16:23Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Now you are making yourself the victim. Hoo poor you, being victim of your own intolerance. > You’re pitiful. > You keep throwing stones at people, and then complain that they dislike you. what a retard. Everyone can read for himself … … that this isn’t true. Everyone is free to look through both our posting histories. Everyone can see which one of us is causing endless pseudo discussions about ■■■■■■■■, and who isn’t. Everyone can see and figure out all for themselves which one of us is actually being a problem around here. Just keep going … … and don’t have a nice day at all. Also: Called it that you need the last word. 😊 Calling it again! 😊 Bye. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Joia\_Crenca](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/joia_crenca/32/291897_2.png) [@Joia\_Crenca](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Joia_Crenca)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/242 "2019-11-22T22:16:34Z")
This thread seems to have turned into a ‘Ban everyone that doesn’t think and play like me’ churn. A problem here is that certain folks try to turn most threads into trash in order to get them locked. It’s a way shut out participation on the forums. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/243 "2019-11-22T22:17:42Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > Everyone can read for himself … > … that this isn’t true. That is. You are the one saying everywhere that “think kind of player is cancer”. That is intolerance and throwing stones at people for reason of personal taste. You are a complete fascist. > [@Joia\_Crenca](#): > > This thread seems to have turned into a ‘Ban everyone that doesn’t think and play like me’ churn. My part was answering to soletist’s “people who don’t think like me must not be tolerated”. Otherwise I actually don’t care, just pointing out the absurd of his point. ---
**Author:** ![Solecist\_Project](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solecist_project/32/479741_2.png) [@Solecist\_Project](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solecist_Project)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/244 "2019-11-22T22:17:48Z")
> [@Joia\_Crenca](#): > > It’s a way shut out participation on the forums. You should check out threads where people want to talk about suicide ganking when it’s not about nerfing it to the ground. Eventually people stopped trying, because the white knighting assholes just keep ruining it. You can do better. Nice try, though. ---
**Author:** ![dewk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dewk/32/168218_2.png) [@dewk](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/dewk)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/245 "2019-11-22T22:25:11Z")
Don’t worry I’ve ready flagged the topic for the Mods to look at. As per normal it’s the same player that do it. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/246 "2019-11-22T22:25:57Z")
Why am I not surprised that the Trump supporter is too ignorant to understand what the term “fascism” actually means… [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187.md?page=13)