# Going red on HP, don't fear it **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 16, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187 "2019-11-16T19:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 12:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/247 "2019-11-23T00:29:15Z")
> [@Solecist\_Project](#): > > You should check out threads where people want to talk about suicide ganking when it’s not about nerfing it to the ground. Eventually people stopped trying, because the white knighting assholes just keep ruining it. > > You can do better. > Nice try, though. You simply cannot stand different opinions and people that stand to theirs… Facism is not about having an opinion you don’t like and fight for it,it’s about not tolerating mine… You simply don’t follow your own standards with your actions and the fact you don’t see it is a major flaw in your argumentation… ---
**Author:** ![Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jonah_gravenstein/32/386819_2.png) [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jonah_Gravenstein)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 1:48am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/248 "2019-11-23T01:48:13Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > You simply cannot stand different opinions and people that stand to theirs… > > You simply don’t follow your own standards with your actions and the fact you don’t see it is a major flaw in your argumentation… You’re a fine one to talk. Given the nature of your opinions you’re going to get opposition to them, to many your opinions and more to the point, how you present them, are a big fat nope. @ poking at politics… naughty naughty people. Kitten intermission. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/f/9/f9cafbdac6443813bc868fc5901001f8b7c17291.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/249 "2019-11-23T11:16:49Z")
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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/250 "2019-11-23T13:58:15Z")
I may be a big stupid, but I dont believe Sol has ever attempted to manipulate me psychologically. At least one other person here has done it this week. Therefore, Im pretty sure Im still a Sol fan. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/251 "2019-11-23T14:07:07Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Therefore, Im pretty sure Im still a Sol fan. What? You ventilate BS ? That’s interesting. Gross, but interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/252 "2019-11-23T14:12:37Z")
Sorry, as you like to point out, Im too stupid to understand you. Youll need to explain what that means if you want it taken on board. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/253 "2019-11-23T14:32:29Z")
[![Imgur](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/3/d/3ddc7c27ab46d9affa5542c602e3033462d64f7c.jpeg "I") ](https://imgur.com/gallery/vfZNu) ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/254 "2019-11-23T14:40:41Z")
Pass, no idea, sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Daoden](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daoden/32/271841_2.png) [@Daoden](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daoden)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/255 "2019-11-23T15:04:39Z")
Damn thr rabbit hole went deep here. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/256 "2019-11-23T15:47:01Z")
> [@Jonah\_Gravenstein](#): > > You’re a fine one to talk. > > Given the nature of your opinions you’re going to get opposition to them, to many your opinions and more to the point, how you present them, are a big fat nope. > > @ poking at politics… > > naughty naughty people. So opinions are the problem here not the undemocratic way they are handled? I’m very sorry that a post like “not everybody should be allowed to say everything,not all voices should be heard” seems to be in order in your world. Well,in mine it’s not… Solecist Project is just hiding behind liberal words and text fragments and obviously not living them like every overly left winged person on this planet. He simply can not accept that there is something outside of his bubble that may has a valid right to speak too… He’s like the 3 apes…don’t hear,don’t see,don’t talk about something from outside,because the outside is bad and everybody outside is a: a moron or b: a nazi,so you don’t even have to speak to them right? WRONG… Talking is the only solution outside of violence and so those who quit talking choose obviously the wrong one. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/257 "2019-11-23T15:49:00Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Solecist Project is just hiding behind liberal words and text fragments and obviously not living it like every overly left winged person on this planet. You are somewhat strange if you think that liberal, overtly-left wing and SP are in any way the same thing. > [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > Talking is the only solution outside of violence and so those who quit talking choose obviously the wrong one. Actually you mean discussing. You talk a lot but you never discuss anything. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/258 "2019-11-23T15:53:46Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Actually you mean discussing. > > You talk a lot but you never discuss anything. The real bad thing about your post is that you do excactly what you accuse me off… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/259 "2019-11-23T15:54:23Z")
Im one who prefers violence to talking as a irl solution. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/260 "2019-11-23T15:55:29Z")
Which is not very healthy in the long run… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/261 "2019-11-23T15:56:26Z")
Not for those who receive violence, no. But thats not really the purpose, is it? ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/262 "2019-11-23T15:59:41Z")
No the real purpose here is that some guy hides behind liberalism to foster censorship…this is the real reason i freaked out,this…effrontery…maybe some kind of a overreaction but it is like it is… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/263 "2019-11-23T16:01:37Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Not for those who receive violence, no. Not for the one who inflicts violence either. He gets used to use violence and thus prevent other people from helping him. While people who receive violence, learn to avoid that violence, avoid the violent person, or make him unable to hurt anymore. Even if they don’t want to hurt him, he thinks they will, and the fear of the violence he himself inflicts on others will poison his life. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 4:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/264 "2019-11-23T16:01:43Z")
> [@Duro\_Peripar](#): > > No the real purpose here is that some guy hides behind liberalism to foster censorship Just because you say this, doesnt make it so. Liberalism is centre-right dishonestly claiming to be left, and I dont see what SP has said to that effect. And the only functioning form of censorship is violence, because violence is the only honest form of communication. ---
**Author:** ![Duro\_Peripar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/duro_peripar/32/168259_2.png) [@Duro\_Peripar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Duro_Peripar)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/265 "2019-11-23T16:02:32Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > And the only functioning form of censorship is violence, because violence is the only honest form of communication. For a caveman maybe… ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/266 "2019-11-23T16:02:40Z")
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