# Going red on HP, don't fear it **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [November 16, 2019, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187 "2019-11-16T19:09:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/307 "2019-11-23T18:56:41Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Bad persons don’t exist. The Nazis wish to disagree with you. > That’s how you go into full fascist mode. And again, please learn what “fascist” actually means and stop using it as a generic term for anyone you don’t like. ---
**Author:** ![Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ravid_bheskagor/32/472687_2.png) [@Ravid\_Bheskagor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ravid_Bheskagor)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/308 "2019-11-23T19:03:46Z")
Have a duel. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/309 "2019-11-23T19:04:27Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > And again, please learn what “fascist” actually means and stop using it as a generic term for anyone you don’t like. yet you are. > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > The Nazis wish to disagree with you. mister nazis apologist. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/310 "2019-11-23T19:20:04Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > yet you are. There you go again, demonstrating that you do not understand what “fascist” actually means. If you had even a basic understanding of the concept you’d know why it is laughably wrong to call me a fascist. (Not that I really expect education or intelligence from Trump supporters, but it’s important to point out your lack of understanding.) > mister nazis apologist. Uh, sure, clearly “Nazis are terrible people” is Nazi apologism… ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/311 "2019-11-23T19:32:55Z")
> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > There you go again, demonstrating that you do not understand what “fascist” actually means. Then you go again, going on unrelated thing to ignore my point. My point is, the idea you are promoting, according to which people can be judge based on their opinion and not their actions, is an opinion used by nazis, and fascists. Also by Bush (that’s my quote from before) > [@Merin\_Ryskin](#): > > Uh, sure, clearly “Nazis are terrible people” is Nazi apologism… completely unrelated. Claiming that people can be judged by their opinion is what Nazis did, and it was the foundation of the horrors they made. When you claim they were right, you are doing their apology. They killed communists because they had different opinions. They killed homosexuals because they had different taste. They killed jews because they had different religion. They gave themselves the right to claim who is right or wrong based on their own taste, and that who was wrong (that is, different) should be “cleaned”. You are no different. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/312 "2019-11-23T19:37:05Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Then you go again, going on unrelated thing to ignore my point. It’s hardly “unrelated” when you keep accusing people of being fascists just because they disagree with you or don’t respect you. > My point is, the idea you are promoting, according to which people can be judge based on their opinion and not their actions, is an opinion used by nazis, and fascists. Nazis and fascists eat food, and YOU ALSO EAT FOOD. If you honestly don’t see the difference between judging someone for their race (as Nazis do) and judging someone for their opinion that the lesser races should be exterminated to make room for a white utopia then I don’t know what else to say to that. You’re so far into utter lunacy that “STFU and GTFO” is the only appropriate response. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/313 "2019-11-23T19:38:15Z")
being homosexual was not a race for nazis. Learn history, or repeat its mistakes. So far you are the perfect example of fascist person. Fascism was defined by the full power of the state, both in public but also in private life. It’s the intrusion of someone else’s opinion in the private life of persons. You are judged by what you think, or rather by what other people want to believe you think. In the end it’s just an excuse to claim other people are bad, to justify your own bad actions. You are an hypocrite fascist - like all fascists are. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/314 "2019-11-23T19:42:21Z")
Learn the difference between “not posting a comprehensive list of every single thing Nazis judged and murdered people for” and “claiming that one example is the entirety of the things they judged and murdered people for”. And the point stands: if you honestly don’t see the difference between judging someone for being homosexual and judging someone for believing in genocide to create a white utopia then you are utterly lacking in any kind of morality or intelligence. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/315 "2019-11-23T19:45:09Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Fascism was defined by the full power of the state, both in public but also in private life. No it wasn’t. _Totalitarianism_ is defined by state power without limits. Fascism includes totalitarianism but also includes other elements. Please learn the difference between political ideologies before you attempt to discuss them. > It’s the intrusion of someone else’s opinion in the private life of persons. You are posting in a public forum hosted by a for-profit corporation. Nobody is forcing you to present your opinions for judgement, and at no point is the state involved here. People calling you an asshole and telling you to get out of their private club is not fascism. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/316 "2019-11-23T19:50:25Z")
cry moar, mister fascist. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/317 "2019-11-23T19:51:15Z")
Please continue to demonstrate the ignorance and inability to have a constructive discussion that we expect from Trump supporters. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/318 "2019-11-23T19:52:15Z")
That’s a typical fascist argument. “jews supporters are evil”. ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/319 "2019-11-23T19:54:50Z")
Like I said, just keep digging that hole deeper. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 8:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/320 "2019-11-23T20:07:15Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Claiming that people can be judged by their opinion is what Nazis did No it isnt. Judging people based on genetics and how easy they were to scapegoat is what the Nazis did. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/321 "2019-11-23T20:08:16Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > No it isnt. Judging people based on genetics and how easy they were to scapegoat is what the Nazis did. homosexuality is not a genetic trait. Neither is communism. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/322 "2019-11-23T20:10:00Z")
Correct, and as I gave two reasons, your lack of recognising them as the second is… Because its inconvenient to your argument? Honestly Anderson, you are seriously above this level of false daftness. Edit: Actually, if not genetic disposition, what _do_ you attribute homosexuality to? ---
**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/323 "2019-11-23T20:14:12Z")
BUT NAZIS ATE FOOD IF YOU EAT FOOD YOU’RE JUST AS BAD AS THE NAZIS. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/324 "2019-11-23T20:17:11Z")
Good job Guinness is packed with nutritional alcohol and calories 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/325 "2019-11-23T20:19:56Z")
> [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Correct, and as I gave two reasons, your lack of recognising them as the second is… Because its inconvenient to your argument? If there was two reason there should be an “or”, instead you put an “and”. Plus, your scapegoat is just nonsense. They killed people just because they had a different opinion, were opposed to the war, the nazis, or whatever. Scapegoat or not, has nothing to do with that. Any person(or minority group of) is a scapegoat when you are in a fascist country. > [@Ramona\_McCandless](#): > > Edit: Actually, if not genetic disposition, what _do_ you attribute homosexuality to? Why would I attribute it something ? What we know is, it’s not genetic. There are a _lot_ of different studies on the topic, make your own opinion maybe ? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187/326 "2019-11-23T20:22:32Z")
I think that you might need to revise the history of the rise of the 3rd Reich if thats your actually serious answer. As for the other point, again “no, you” is just really low level compared to what you are capable of. Enjoy agreeing with Duro lol o7 [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187.md?page=15) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/going-red-on-hp-dont-fear-it/201187.md?page=17)