# GPU Driven Pipeline/Carbon Update - Known Issues **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Tags:** release, official\ **Created:** [March 18, 2025, 1:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013 "2025-03-18T13:21:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Lodemai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lodemai/32/374211_2.png) [@Lodemai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lodemai)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/410 "2025-04-13T18:33:21Z")
Biggest issues I’ve had so far are structures slower to load, so if I undock and warp to a gate I don’t see the gate until I’ve been sitting there for a couple of seconds, and cloaking devices sometimes making my ship completely invisible, instead of the cloak visual effect ---
**Author:** ![Rozo\_Druprime](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rozo_druprime/32/480881_2.png) [@Rozo\_Druprime](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rozo_Druprime)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2025, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/411 "2025-04-13T22:45:27Z")
Game still freezes during system change and docking/undocking ONLY while flying a Tech 3 Cruiser. it DOES NOT Happen with any other ship, only with T3Cs. Have yet to hear back after 7 days about this issue and how to solve it. It makes flying T3C’s especially dangerous in nullsec or lowsec as it takes a good 5+seconds for everything to load. ---
**Author:** ![kamaTayun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kamatayun/32/439853_2.png) [@kamaTayun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kamaTayun)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2025, 8:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/413 "2025-04-14T20:36:52Z")
Processor 12th Gen Intel(R) Core™ i7-12650H 2.70 GHz Intel(R) UHD Graphics (w/ 8GB sharedf DDR5) NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 Laptop GPU - 8.0 GB GDDR6 ([UserBenchmark: Nvidia RTX 4050 (Laptop)](https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/2015629/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-4050-Laptop-GPU)) Device name \>REDACTED\< Installed RAM 16.0 GB (15.7 GB usable) Device ID Product ID System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display Edition Windows 11 Pro Version 24H2 Installed on ‎ OS build 26100.3775 Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.66.0 Since I didnt include the first message lol ---
**Author:** ![Dulmese\_Severasse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dulmese_severasse/32/419810_2.png) [@Dulmese\_Severasse](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dulmese_Severasse)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 6:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/414 "2025-04-15T06:21:32Z")
Can you disable the Intel graphics chip and only use the Nvidia card? ---
**Author:** ![kamaTayun](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kamatayun/32/439853_2.png) [@kamaTayun](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/kamaTayun)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/415 "2025-04-15T09:04:12Z")
Yes and no. You can force it to run apps through the nvidia, but no matter what you do, the Intel comes between the nvidia and the monitor. The integrated connects to your monitors, except in some possible higher speed external connections. ---
**Author:** ![Zhele\_Jamohrr](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zhele_jamohrr/32/393039_2.png) [@Zhele\_Jamohrr](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zhele_Jamohrr)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/416 "2025-04-15T20:28:15Z")
I have the same issues other are reporting about nullsec systems not loading or causing a crash. Even if a crash isn’t caused, the systems are still extremely sluggish initially, like they’re taking abnormally long to load up or something. A fun wrinkle: only _sov_ null is wonky. _NPC_ null seems to be just fine (as is j-space, Pochven, and HS/LS). This makes sov null extremely frustrating to play in _at best_, and impossible at worst. Busy sov null systems almost invariably cause a client freeze or a full system lock (for instance, even just transitioning from View inside to View outside in a structure in MJ-5F9 will bork the client or the whole machine in ~50 seconds). ---
**Author:** ![Meridan\_Night](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/meridan_night/32/488304_2.png) [@Meridan\_Night](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Meridan_Night)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2025, 11:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/417 "2025-04-16T23:35:13Z")
This is off topic, I guess, but did everyone get an 8GB update for EVE client today or am I special ? ---
**Author:** ![Power\_Armor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/power_armor/32/413178_2.png) [@Power\_Armor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Power_Armor)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/418 "2025-04-17T01:35:25Z")
> [@Version 22.02 - Revenant - General Feedback](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/version-22-02-revenant-general-feedback/467659/864): > > My client downloaded about 8GB today. Is that normal with everyone else also? ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 6:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/419 "2025-04-18T18:40:13Z")
didn’t play EVE for a week and after taking a stargate client’s crashed and now windows is like this: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/a/8/0a8f1cfcbc58f4d0b7b19df20e34bf61ff150f2f.jpeg) yes, my video drivers are updated and everything ---
**Author:** ![Shin\_Kudo\_Udan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shin_kudo_udan/32/450858_2.png) [@Shin\_Kudo\_Udan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shin_Kudo_Udan)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/420 "2025-04-18T23:53:20Z")
Well, I finally upgraded: I went from playing in potato mode in DX11 with the IGPU of an i5 6600 with 8GB DDR4 @2133mhz and experiencing those horrible FPS drops when undocking or jumping, to playing in DX12 high with the IGPU of an 8600G 16GB DDR5 @4800mhz. There’re still FPS drops, but from 60 to 30 or something like that, I can play again. I’m still using my old SSD, with the same updated Windows 10 and EVE installation. ---
**Author:** ![Sven\_Bauer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sven_bauer/32/457818_2.png) [@Sven\_Bauer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sven_Bauer)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/421 "2025-04-19T03:57:15Z")
Ive been seeing dramatically increased vram usage leading to stuttering when my system falls back onto shared vram when my dedicated vram fills up. The stutters happen when the amount of shared vram changes. Additionally the vram usage doesnt go down when leaving a busy grid, requiring a restart to avoid heavy stuttering. Ive tried latest nvidia drivers and i have tried rolling back to the driver version from last December that a few other games recommend for better stability with no luck. DX11 vram usage is better than DX12 by a large margin so stuttering is just as bad on DX12. I used to be able to run 24 clients on minimum graphics with no stuttering, post-patch im able to do around 13-14 max before i start getting heavy stuttering. and idk if its helpful but ill reiterate, the stutters line up to when the Shared GPU Memory value in taskmanager changes. I dont mind doing any amount of testing to help resolve this issue, would be nice to get an experimental ultra low settings especially since getting more vram is incredibly expensive at the moment Specs: 7950x3d 4080 16gb 96gb DDR5 @ 6k eve is on an nvme ssd ![Taskmgr_fK8z6MhHBv](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/a/e/0ae0b48d4af6f53c6c7c65e9e5cf48bf3eacdc1c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 3:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/422 "2025-04-22T03:13:43Z")
So, on Sunday I installed Avast antivirus just for turning off the Windows Defender, I noticed that EVE makes the Defender work too much. After installing Avast then I simply turned off all protections and Defender was not running anymore. The result is that I didn’t crash anymore for now, this is the second day of testing. Maybe Windows Defender thinks that EVE is a virus? ---
**Author:** ![Ogun\_Ferraille](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ogun_ferraille/32/467938_2.png) [@Ogun\_Ferraille](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ogun_Ferraille)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2025, 6:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/423 "2025-04-22T06:20:45Z")
> [@Jabali\_Javee](#): > > EVE is a virus? maybe it is? On our PC, Sophos also recognized it as a virus. ---
**Author:** ![Jabali\_Javee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jabali_javee/32/416429_2.png) [@Jabali\_Javee](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jabali_Javee)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/424 "2025-04-23T03:06:08Z")
third day of testing without Windows Defender, it felt fine until I jumped a stargate and then: ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/3/b/c/3bc632d70bc9e053e64ee4fd65e442329b201b7c.png) what i that? is this an infinite loop somehwere? ---
**Author:** ![Graugaard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/graugaard/32/411984_2.png) [@Graugaard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Graugaard)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/425 "2025-04-23T17:47:43Z")
It always happens when you jump a stargate or dock or enter wormhole enter the abyss… a sudden change makes eve explode in RAM and if you dont have enough (not a problem for most single eve users) then the graphic glitches starts to happen and it mega lags is totally unplayable until you restart it. sad how CCP fk it up and totally wont give us a single hope for fixing it or even show a sign of doing so. ---
**Author:** ![Dyver\_Phycad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dyver_phycad/32/358575_2.png) [@Dyver\_Phycad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dyver_Phycad)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/426 "2025-04-24T13:36:43Z")
Hardly surprising, opening the Fitting Window in a T3C also freezes the client. CCP is still refusing to acknowlege the issue? ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/427 "2025-04-24T16:10:34Z")
I went on a Loki fleet the other day. Step 1: grab the right loki. Check fit, but game freezes. I probably need the other loki, game freezes. I swap links, game freezes. I finally undock, warp to other lokis, zoom in to see the other ships, game freezes. I zoom out again, nothing bad, but when I try to see the layout of the other ships (also Lokis) to see if I’ve got the right config, the game yet again freezes. Every time I zoom out and in again the game freezes. Fix this issue, CCP. It’s unplayably bad. ---
**Author:** ![Ploing](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ploing/32/466885_2.png) [@Ploing](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ploing)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/428 "2025-04-24T17:17:54Z")
> [@Gerard\_Amatin](#): > > Fix this issue, CCP. It’s unplayably bad. it looks like they dont care. ---
**Author:** ![QuakeGod](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/quakegod/32/480339_2.png) [@QuakeGod](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/QuakeGod)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 5:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/429 "2025-04-24T17:48:11Z")
You would think that you players who are having this issue would have sorted it out amongst yourselves by now, because there are thousands of other players who aren’t having any issues at all. There has to be a common denominator among you, whether it’s the OS, DirectX version, video card type, drivers, settings, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Regina\_Sort](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/regina_sort/32/456262_2.png) [@Regina\_Sort](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Regina_Sort)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013/430 "2025-04-24T21:51:41Z")
Well, you are technically right that not all players are expiriencing these issues. However, there was around 0 responce from CCP for the past month, and judging by the actual PC specs of affected users - this is a software issue not a hardware issue. From my view, there are 2 options. Either CCP doesn’t care or devs are simply dont have a clue of which part a of a code was 'uked up. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013.md?page=20) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gpu-driven-pipeline-carbon-update-known-issues/480013.md?page=22)