# Griefing ruins the game

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 2, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880 "2022-01-02T00:21:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/203 "2022-01-03T23:52:09Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> I’ve been public with ‘tantrums’ since I started

So this is a tantrum?

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**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 11:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/204 "2022-01-03T23:52:15Z")

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I don’t live in wormhole space full time, I much prefer the joy of jump drives, but sure, if I find your hole I’ll seed it and bring in bomber fleets to kill you.

I know I’m far poorer than you - but all I have to risk to destroy all you work to build is a 50m bomber (and perhaps a similarly priced interdictor too). I have little need for isk, and no need to work to gain it, for I have friends who will follow me into combat.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/205 "2022-01-03T23:59:45Z")

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You a stupid huh.

You can’t destroy anything I own in the case of an eviction I literally just throw everything in charons and log them off.

You will get a 700 million astra up well core and that’s it

You actually believed you could get at my assets that’s pretty funny you are pretty stupid

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Scat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jack_scat/32/302976_2.png) [@Jack\_Scat](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jack_Scat)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/206 "2022-01-04T00:00:37Z")

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> **[Astrahus | 10th Crusade | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/94963861/)**
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> (10th Crusade) lost their Astrahus in J100551 (E-R00028). Final Blow by Jack Scat (Acceptable Margins of Risk) flying in a Kikimora. Total Value: 720,488,000.00 ISK

This was fun and it was empty.

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**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/207 "2022-01-04T00:02:17Z")

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I would never evict you, I would bring in fleets to kill anything valuable you undock.

Sustainable fishing

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/208 "2022-01-04T00:02:33Z")

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That wasn’t even anchored it took less than an hour to destroy we’re talking about a full-scale 72-hour hole control operation now.

Two totally different ball games.

You’re comparing an unanchored upwell structure with an inexperienced pilot compared to now when I have a literal space Fortress, tacticals and the full defense Fleet.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/209 "2022-01-04T00:03:31Z")

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You wont but I welcome you to try.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/210 "2022-01-04T00:04:25Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and come and evict me hot stuff?

I don’t need to, other people have it covered.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/211 "2022-01-04T00:07:18Z")

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That’s good because you’d be way out of your league.

Stay where you belong: ganking defenseless miners.

I’m happy you finally admitted your place.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/212 "2022-01-04T00:08:00Z")

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Calm down miner.

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**Author:** ![BoneChilling\_Chelien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bonechilling_chelien/32/443820_2.png) [@BoneChilling\_Chelien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BoneChilling_Chelien)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/213 "2022-01-04T00:15:37Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> I’ve been public with ‘tantrums’ since I started in '07.
> 
> You are nothing. AMOR is ■■■■. I’ve welcomed you several times to evict me, even when you were in my hole. And no, I don’t use eyes for a 200m praxis because 200m isn’t ■■■■ to me and I have dozens of them in hangar.
> 
> Put your money where your mouth is. Come get me. You know where I live. @BoneChilling_Chelien That no one is actually afraid of  
> bone chilling XD XD  
> you funny
> 
> and you Aiko @Aiko_Danuja
> 
> Come get me too, backup your talk.

Does your mom know you have her credit card? I am honestly concerned for you.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/214 "2022-01-04T00:16:10Z")

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Ok mr. Bonechiller

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**Author:** ![SimpleSimon61](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/simplesimon61/32/302985_2.png) [@SimpleSimon61](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/SimpleSimon61)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/215 "2022-01-04T00:17:15Z")

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Looking at your kill board you got excited about a rolling Devoter a few months back. double standards?

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/216 "2022-01-04T00:17:50Z")

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Elaborate, how did I get overly excited or even excited at all? @SimpleSimon61

Or does simply killing something in your hole mean you are EXCITED!!!

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**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/217 "2022-01-04T00:19:32Z")

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![giphy](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/7/9/7946c396833a5cee1a59720f09bd1599b634c464.gif)

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**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/218 "2022-01-04T00:30:31Z")

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If all the krabs were this salty in highclass j-space all that peer pressure from my mates to join one of the wormhole eviction corps might be successful.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/219 "2022-01-04T00:32:11Z")

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haha yeah I must be salty if I get frustrated by constantly being outnumbered

I probably create enough salt to satiate the dead sea since I don’t like being outnumbered; its insane!

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**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/220 "2022-01-04T00:33:08Z")

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Thought you said you had a “full defense fleet”.

lol

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/221 "2022-01-04T00:33:40Z")

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lol do you even know what that means? @Katya_Itzimaru

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/222 "2022-01-04T00:38:53Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Only 550m/hr?
> 
> That’s the highest an individual can possibly make playing Solo C5 in Wormhole space.
> 
> It’s far more than you make and you’ve never even flown a dread so you’re really in no position to comment .
> 
> Stick to griefing solo players, your idiocy and desperation is showing

Maybe only you can make that. I doubt that’s the highest an individual can make. We only have your anecdotal evidence bruv 😃

> [@BoneChilling\_Chelien](#):
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> The salt makes sense now. We killed this guy and his Astra back in September. He anchored this in a hole that was already occupied. We went in to help kill it. This guy docked in the anchoring structure with the DST containing the core when it had less than 10% left. We bubbled and waited for him to pop out and we popped him then too. He’s not a smart person.
> 
> September 4 and 5th.

So he’s lying about the solo eviction. Makes sense 😃

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Haha you mad griefer? You actually gonna try and figure out jspace and come for me?
> 
> That’s cute. Goodluck.

It ain’t that hard to figure out bruv. You make like the WHs aren’t mapped ROFL.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Yes I’m sure the first time you did something you did it perfectly without making any mistakes.
> 
> And I really don’t care about you. Any Corp can gank 12v1, you aren’t special.
> 
> You are just the ones that did it when I had had enough. It’s been done by other corps numerous times before.
> 
> You guys are a bunch of hyper casuals that flip out over a rolling praxis.

How are they hyper casuals when they clearly can be more organized than you and burned your structure? I’d venture a guess your venture didn’t help much huh?

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> How is that ironic? My frustration has nothing to do with a singular Praxis it has everything to do with being constantly out numbered.

You’re outnumbered by choice and social acumen bruv. Blame yourself 😃

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> And you follow me like an obsessed little school girl shadowing her first crush.
> 
> Get over it.

LOL, I’m a simple salt miner sir. And you are _immaculate_ in your salt production 😃

There is no amount of ISK you can ever make to make up for this L my boy.

> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#):
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> What do you mean?

Sigh. Sometimes you witness perfection, almost like the birth of a star. I applaud. That was smooth. And so on target. And just chef kiss ROFL.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> What do I mean?
> 
> If I say ‘anyone would hop on the chance to make that isk’  
> do I mean literally ANY and EVERYONE, or simply most people?
> 
> If I say ‘well everyone wants a normal life’  
> do I mean literally every human being on the planet?
> 
> Or are there exceptions to generalizations? There are!  
> Perhaps if you weren’t so stupid, I wouldn’t have to spell everything out for you.

ROFL. Sir, you are not so smart one. She has just roflcoptered you into the ground and the best part is you are unaware of it 😃 It was a Master’s class.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> There’s a difference between playing with friends and being so content starved you mobilize every individual you can to killwhore on a rolling praxis.
> 
> stop being disingenuous.

There is no difference except that they have friends and you don’t 😃

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Oh sorry. I didn’t read all your post.

So you can’t read good. Not surprising 😃

> [@Katya\_Itzimaru](#):
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> I and my peers bathe in the blood of your kind and rejoice. It has forged deep and true bonds of trust that I value every day.

Truer words never spoken.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> right to the personal attacks when you’ve been intellectually pounded into the sand huh?
> 
> Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and come and evict me hot stuff?

Er. I dunno if anyone wants to go in your hole sir. It has obviously been used. A lot.

> [@BoneChilling\_Chelien](#):
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> I’d say there’s a 25% to 40% chance that those rolling praxis are bait or able to tackle and hold. Never not take the bait.
> 
> With that said, this “guy” isn’t bright and doesn’t understand that content is content. Calling it griefing that his solo rolling Praxis in a wormhole without any intel and eyes is high grade whining at the least. All he’s done is strip off his clothes and self-painted a bullseye on this chest. He doesn’t know what’s coming for him after going public with this tantrum

Exactly. Unsure why he would even give the hole name. Pride goeth before the fall I guess.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> even when you were in my hole.

So you regularly invite others into your hole? Interesting.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> we’re talking about a full-scale 72-hour hole control operation now.

Huh. You like to marathon that hole huh?

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> You’re comparing an unanchored upwell structure with an inexperienced pilot compared to now when I have a literal space Fortress, tacticals and the full defense Fleet.

Uh. Where would that be exactly? Considering they blapped your structure and your defense fleet did nothing?

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> simply killing something in your hole

Uh. That doesn’t sound healthy sir..

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> haha yeah I must be salty if I get frustrated by constantly being outnumbered
> 
> I probably create enough salt to satiate the dead sea since I don’t like being outnumbered; its insane!

You just explained the definition of salt.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> lol do you even know what that means? @Katya_Itzimaru

I mean do you? Cause uh, it looks your fleet didn’t do much defending.

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