# Griefing ruins the game **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 2, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880 "2022-01-02T00:21:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Viper\_RAM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/viper_ram/32/302984_2.png) [@Viper\_RAM](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Viper_RAM)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/223 "2022-01-04T00:39:29Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > Elaborate, how did I get overly excited or even excited at all? @SimpleSimon61 > > Or does simply killing something in your hole mean you are EXCITED!!! "I don’t understand the obsession with killing things that pose no threat or challenge and provide no loot, nor the killboard whoring. (Arcturen Sanguis) " you say this in this thread but at the same time you kill a rolling Devoter. Why? double standards. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/224 "2022-01-04T00:41:10Z")
Tell me you didn’t read the thread without telling me you didn’t read the thread. @Viper_RAM The thread isn’t about killing a roller, the thread is about the way the roller was killed. Learn to differentiate – I was going to say subtilties – but this wasn’t subtle. Learn to not be an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Katya\_Itzimaru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/katya_itzimaru/32/512123_2.png) [@Katya\_Itzimaru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Katya_Itzimaru)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/225 "2022-01-04T00:41:11Z")
The only things you’ve killed in months are rolling ships. I feel like your interpretation of a defense fleet is suspect if there’s no evidence of them actually defending you. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:42am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/226 "2022-01-04T00:42:11Z")
Hmm, maybe because the defense fleet is for protecting my citadels and not for whelping through holes after 200m praxis. IDK, maybe the word ‘DEFENSE’ would give a hint. @Katya_Itzimaru ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/227 "2022-01-04T00:43:15Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > Tell me you didn’t read the thread without telling me you didn’t read the thread. @Viper_RAM > > The thread isn’t about killing a roller, the thread is about the way the roller was killed. > > Learn to differentiate – I was going to say subtilties – but this wasn’t subtle. > > Learn to not be an idiot. No they pretty much got you dead to rights 😃 > [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > Hmm, maybe because the defense fleet is for protecting my citadels and not for whelping through holes after 200m praxis. > > IDK, maybe the word ‘DEFENSE’ would give a hint But you didn’t defend it and let it burn. So you can see how are skeptical on this defense fleet right? ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/228 "2022-01-04T00:44:47Z")
> **[Gix Firebrand | Character](https://zkillboard.com/character/734893156/)** > > Gix Firebrand: 65 ships destroyed and 14 ships lost. It was anchoring, there’s nothing to defend its not on timers at that point. But you don’t understand that as you’ve never anchored an upwell. Idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/229 "2022-01-04T00:54:30Z")
[@everyone](https://forums.eveonline.com/groups/everyone) - PLOT TWIST I’m in J100415 right now. There’s no sign of Arcturen. For all his big talk, he isn’t here. He doesn’t own the hole at all, he isn’t even here!!! ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/230 "2022-01-04T00:59:31Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/4/2/e/42e4a0ae2a3a5839732192f89053024aa11e0ad4.jpeg) Im literally on right now and I said hello to you in local @Aiko_Danuja [00:36:14] EVE System \> Channel changed to Local : J100415 [00:43:35] Desmios Sanguis \> hola [00:43:47] Desmios Sanguis \> how are you today [00:59:56] Desmios Sanguis \> Aiko [00:59:58] Desmios Sanguis \> where you at hunny Also, did you miss the giant PoS and astrahus with my name on it… or… d-scan not your thing? ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/231 "2022-01-04T01:04:54Z")
You miss this? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/8/f28a5b7b60e9edcb145dedbc246b7ead5ce8aefa.jpeg) and this? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/1/d/f1daab5bd27649ad4a438ccff50609573e01a2d8.jpeg) pretty hard things to miss, I’m half-tempted to say you’re lying or being disingenuous @Aiko_Danuja . I saw two yachts and a praxis that I said hello to. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/232 "2022-01-04T01:16:39Z")
![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/8/b/28b46007323be17669092b82c3469ccd89366db7.png) ---
**Author:** ![BoneChilling\_Chelien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/bonechilling_chelien/32/443820_2.png) [@BoneChilling\_Chelien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/BoneChilling_Chelien)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/233 "2022-01-04T01:17:08Z")
I’d say go join a corp with other players but I find it unlikely any half decent corp would want you. ---
**Author:** ![Xuixien](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuixien/32/416896_2.png) [@Xuixien](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuixien)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/234 "2022-01-04T01:18:48Z")
Griefing **is** my game. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/235 "2022-01-04T01:19:48Z")
![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/0/0/a000eacc319d8bad935edb51ba88caab6dcde24c.png) ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/236 "2022-01-04T01:25:27Z")
You’re right, I don’t chill people to the bone like you do. Scary scary!! ---
**Author:** ![Ned\_Nakugard](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ned_nakugard/32/302975_2.png) [@Ned\_Nakugard](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ned_Nakugard)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 5:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/237 "2022-01-04T05:26:46Z")
CCP made a great video addressing this very topic several years ago. I think this video really explains things in a tactful way that respects both sides. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/9/d/9dba09442ddba1799cdc9b397985f465838d8215.jpeg "Permaband - HTFU") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q) ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 7:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/238 "2022-01-04T07:32:56Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > It was anchoring, there’s nothing to defend its not on timers at that point. > > But you don’t understand that as you’ve never anchored an upwell. Idiot. Oh I’m well aware. You could have still defended it. But you didn’t. Defense fleet huh? 😃 Also its funny you don’t understand you wouldn’t want all kills on zkills 😃 > [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > [00:59:58] Desmios Sanguis \> where you at hunny Oof. I knew you were a creepy incel. It makes sense why you live in a hole alone. ---
**Author:** ![Abu\_Ahmed\_Al-Kuwaiti](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abu_ahmed_al-kuwaiti/32/510981_2.png) [@Abu\_Ahmed\_Al-Kuwaiti](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abu_Ahmed_Al-Kuwaiti)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 7:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/239 "2022-01-04T07:43:53Z")
You can make more with a solo marauder. 500m is on the lower end tbh. Should be like 20min a site with decent bookmarks. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/240 "2022-01-04T11:36:00Z")
You need to stop linking people Zkill… that does not matter. If your only worth of somebody in EVE is based on zkill you are terrible person in your own eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Ashley\_Traynor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashley_traynor/32/303308_2.png) [@Ashley\_Traynor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashley_Traynor)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/241 "2022-01-04T13:18:02Z")
My blog is mentioned a couple of times in here so I might as well say something. Podding is completely fine 90% of the time. The times where it is a dick move are if it will delay a fight or if you are killing an empty pod just to make that person spend time burning home… For any nullseccers who are confused, you cannot have a home station in a wormhole, you must then burn 10-20-30 jumps home in a new ship. Personally we (Foxholers) will avoid podding in brawls for two reasons: - To get a round 2 fight - If it’s a cool group such as EVE Uni who are always eager for a fun fight We will, however, always pod during a gank because that’s fun and we get to kill some nice pods sometimes 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ashley\_Traynor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashley_traynor/32/303308_2.png) [@Ashley\_Traynor](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashley_Traynor)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/242 "2022-01-04T13:20:01Z")
Oh and I forgot to say this too. Fit weapons to your rollers, people. I fly a rolling Megathron and I adore when people attack me, they usually get minced by the blasters and I can hold long enough for friends to help. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880.md?page=11) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880.md?page=13)