# Griefing ruins the game **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 2, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880 "2022-01-02T00:21:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/243 "2022-01-04T13:39:13Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > There’s a difference between playing with friends and being so content starved you mobilize every individual you can to killwhore on a rolling praxis. > > stop being disingenuous. Would you feel better if only 4 people killed you? And this has nothing to do with “content starved”, this is a sandbox MMO, where everyone is everyone else’s content. ---
**Author:** ![Gerard\_Amatin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gerard_amatin/32/481361_2.png) [@Gerard\_Amatin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gerard_Amatin)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/244 "2022-01-04T14:51:25Z")
> [@Ashley\_Traynor](#): > > Personally we (Foxholers) will avoid podding in brawls for two reasons: > > - To get a round 2 fight > - If it’s a cool group such as EVE Uni who are always eager for a fun fight Funny thing: nullseccers often also avoid podding, if the fight happens in heavy tidi and nearby the enemy staging. If you pod your enemy you allow them to reship and rejoin the fight much faster. ---
**Author:** ![Viper\_RAM](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/viper_ram/32/302984_2.png) [@Viper\_RAM](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Viper_RAM)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/245 "2022-01-04T15:52:55Z")
Glad to see content creators on the forms. Thanks for putting the guides together. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 8:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/246 "2022-01-04T20:18:51Z")
> [@Ashley\_Traynor](#): > > Oh and I forgot to say this too. Fit weapons to your rollers, people. I fly a rolling Megathron and I adore when people attack me, they usually get minced by the blasters and I can hold long enough for friends to help. Thankee for weighing in. Also I’d like to point out the OP plays solo, which is fine, but refuses to accept the consequences of said action. Kudos for using the mega. > [@Viper\_RAM](#): > > Glad to see content creators on the forms. Thanks for putting the guides together. Yesm her guides are very useful. ---
**Author:** ![Optimus\_Maximus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/optimus_maximus/32/368882_2.png) [@Optimus\_Maximus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Optimus_Maximus)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 8:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/247 "2022-01-04T20:41:24Z")
Ugh you do realise you are probably being farmed for intelligence about your WH, right? You are even posting screenshots for everyone to see. Wise up. Someone: “Hey, I know your EVE account password, it’s 1234”. You: “Hahahah you are so dumb, my password is not 1234, it’s 5678, I can prove it to you, look, hahahah” As for your OP, you joined a PVP game. It’s not griefing if you engage in PVP and lose, regardless of the numbers of people involved from each side. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/248 "2022-01-04T20:42:19Z")
I think what’s more funny is he’s so insignificant that people simply don’t care haha. He’s just alone in his hole, playing with himself. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/249 "2022-01-04T22:41:51Z")
20 hours to get full payback? If only. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/250 "2022-01-05T15:34:55Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > No, you aren’t good because you jumped on an unarmed ship with 15 people. What on earth are you doing undocking in an _unarmed_ 200m ISK ship ? Heck, I thought _I_ was crazy moving an unarmed Catalyst ( a mere 1m ISK ) two systems to my home base to fit out…but that was a risk worth taking. But to undock in 200m ISK worth of completely unarmed battleship truly takes the biscuit. ---
**Author:** ![Leggone\_Stracks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/leggone_stracks/32/290900_2.png) [@Leggone\_Stracks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Leggone_Stracks)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2022, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/251 "2022-01-05T21:01:57Z")
Exactly. Some weapons are really cheap. Tech 1 Drones are really cheap. Put SOMETHING on the darn thing. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/252 "2022-01-06T00:19:19Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/c/f/5/cf5ccc11273c123e36b810145eeda1ec70b34b31.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Hazen\_Koraka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hazen_koraka/32/395218_2.png) [@Hazen\_Koraka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hazen_Koraka)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/253 "2022-01-06T10:20:12Z")
All you need is a bigger sword ---
**Author:** ![Saudek\_Marren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/saudek_marren/32/290819_2.png) [@Saudek\_Marren](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Saudek_Marren)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/254 "2022-01-06T12:34:20Z")
I’m completely confused here. So you took an unarmed battleship, into a wormhole? You clearly crossed onto someone’s territory, and are surprised they shot at you? Wtf? They where supposed to wait for your 14 friends to join you for a “fair fight”? Going unarmed in a battleship, was never going to be a fair fight, but that’s not anyone’s fault but yours. It’s not griefing if you make poor choices, it’s just what you get. It’s well known that fights in EVE are determined before you even undock, and you chose a loosing battle. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/255 "2022-01-11T10:31:24Z")
> I’m completely confused here. You are completely confused. You have no idea what you are talking about – and it shows. Stop. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 10:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/256 "2022-01-11T10:33:42Z")
200m? Is that a lot of isk to you? You must be broke a.f. Sorry to hear that ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/257 "2022-01-11T13:32:56Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > 200m? Is that a lot of isk to you ‘A lot’ is meaningless. I have billions…some have trillions…some have just millions. But I wouldn’t waste even a 4k Hobgoblin _unnecessarily_. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/258 "2022-01-11T13:46:26Z")
How was it (my praxis) wasted unnecessarily? ---
**Author:** ![Galaxy\_Pig](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/galaxy_pig/32/374625_2.png) [@Galaxy\_Pig](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Galaxy_Pig)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 6:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/259 "2022-01-11T18:06:54Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > I don’t understand the obsession with killing things that pose no threat or challenge and provide no loot, nor the killboard whoring. Yeah idk, buddy. They probably don’t have anything better to do other than whore on your shitty kill at the moment because they live in a wormhole. You understand that, right? Just like how you don’t have anything better to do other than cry on the internet about it. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 9:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/260 "2022-01-11T21:47:06Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > You are completely confused. > > You have no idea what you are talking about – and it shows. Stop. You mean that they pointed out bringing an unarmed BS into someone else’s hole is a bad idea? 😃 > [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > 200m? Is that a lot of isk to you? > > You must be broke a.f. > > Sorry to hear that So you admit WHs are ISK faucets. Excellent 😃 I’m sure CCP has seen that too. > [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > How was it (my praxis) wasted unnecessarily? You didn’t think before you jumped 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 9:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/261 "2022-01-11T21:52:30Z")
the only thing ruining the game, are the whiners, whining about suspected griefing. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2022, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/262 "2022-01-14T20:05:53Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > How was it (my praxis) wasted unnecessarily? You clearly didn’t _intend_ to lose it…or you wouldn’t be here complaining about it. So all I have to do is ask :- Does undocking with no weapons at all make it harder or easier for that ship to be lost ? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880.md?page=14)