# Griefing ruins the game **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 2, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880 "2022-01-02T00:21:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2022, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/263 "2022-01-16T13:33:02Z")
Is adding guns to a praxis going to help it win a 4v1 or just increase isk loss? Do tell. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/264 "2022-01-18T00:26:37Z")
> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#): > > Is adding guns to a praxis going to help it win a 4v1 or just increase isk loss? Wrong Attitude ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/0/4/6/0460ce2521bed4c38edcbcd2c6cd759bf2dfa10f.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 12:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/265 "2022-01-18T00:41:15Z")
I add guns to my Sigils and Miasmosi, for roleplay purposes. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 4:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/266 "2022-01-19T16:23:49Z")
How is that the wrong attitude? I have to maintain a bunch of structures and have constant overhead and upkeep costs. If I throw isk away at every turn I’m going to be broke in no time ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/267 "2022-01-19T21:04:47Z")
You were just bragging that you had an absolute ISK faucet and that we were all poors. Now you’re saying you’re poor. Which is it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/268 "2022-01-19T21:16:48Z")
![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/3/a/f3a033353c144e2e63c971f849ea737c87279b19.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 10:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/269 "2022-01-19T22:39:10Z")
> [@Aiko\_Danuja](#): > > I add guns to my Sigils and Miasmosi, for roleplay purposes. Was that the purpose of the warp core stab we caught you with fitted to your cat that time .🧐 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/270 "2022-01-19T22:48:02Z")
Am I supposed to care about using warpcore stabilizers? ❓ 🤷‍♀️ ❔ No idea why you keep mentioning this - I do it all the time. Am I supposed to be ashamed or something? I guess it would suck if your gameplay involves wasting hours orbiting a gate, waiting to warp disrupt me, and then it turns out I routinely fit stabilizers. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 11:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/271 "2022-01-19T23:01:50Z")
Stabs have always been looked down on , I believe even James 315 felt the same and anyone fitted one should be ganked. Pulling you out of fleets is fun but like you said it’s time consuming so we only do it now and then. Training on a instant locker is a good skill to have for our new guys and we all need to keep the skill , just a shame you avoid our hopeless ineffective camps 😊 ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/272 "2022-01-19T23:04:00Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > Stabs have always been looked down on , I believe even James 315 felt the same and anyone fitted one should be ganked. Am I supposed to care? Did you actually think I care? I use warpcore stabilizers all the time. The absolute absurdity of an antiganker trying to lecture me about James 315. 🙄 > [@Githany\_Red](#): > > just a shame you avoid our hopeless ineffective camps Yah, just a shame for you! ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 11:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/273 "2022-01-19T23:04:05Z")
Literally just run a slasher with sebos if you want to instant tackle. Sometimes I’m convinced you guys don’t know how to PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 11:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/274 "2022-01-19T23:05:00Z")
We do 😂 Run instant lock slashers , probably lose more of them than any other ship but we have a lot and they have one purpose to stop people warping and they die , new players train in them , it’s good to get used to dying in cheap ships ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/275 "2022-01-19T23:15:09Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > they have one purpose to stop people warping and they die What if you had to do more than just click on someone’s name and press F1? ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 12:12pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/277 "2022-01-20T12:12:42Z")
> [@Githany\_Red](#): > > anyone fitted one should be ganked Now you undertstand why DSTs must die. they have 2 by default. I knew you would come round to our way of thinking. ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/7/3/2/7328914eb4d4ed49ab4ca1838e2bc7fbfc9ad6d0.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gadget_helmsdottir/32/374037_2.png) [@Gadget\_Helmsdottir](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gadget_Helmsdottir)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 4:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/279 "2022-01-20T16:56:41Z")
You could just turn off the game and do something productive… It’s not like they were holding YOU hostage. –Gadget suggest that this is the perfect time to do house chores ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/280 "2022-01-20T19:01:19Z")
Huh. Its almost like you’re trolling and want to get the thread locked. The exact thing you complained about 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/281 "2022-01-20T19:57:13Z")
So you making fun of him for only having a 4 to 1 kill ratio of which most are solo, having a negative ratio yourself? Really? ---
**Author:** ![PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pixywarrior_ellecon/32/456340_2.png) [@PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PixyWarrior_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/282 "2022-01-20T20:02:53Z")
Having a 4:1 kill ratio when you have less than 100 kills is not impressive. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/283 "2022-01-20T20:10:13Z")
Found his alt 😃 ---
**Author:** ![PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/pixywarrior_ellecon/32/456340_2.png) [@PixyWarrior\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/PixyWarrior_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/284 "2022-01-20T20:24:55Z")
If you are referring to me as being an alt please go check my zkill. I can assure you, I am not an alt. I have alts but this is not one of them. I have no need to hide behind alts when posting on the forum or reddit. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880.md?page=13) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880.md?page=15)