# Griefing ruins the game **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 2, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880 "2022-01-02T00:21:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/409 "2022-02-03T12:18:06Z")
Calm down ganker shrill. We have had a sexist insult, now an are you a child insult, next will come the meds insult, ah we had the attention seeking insult, missed that, perhaps Godwins law should make a showing at some point. Perhaps we will get the pseudo psychiatric forum analysis next? So why mention hisec ganking, when this has nothing to do with hisec? The guy was not mining by the way he was rolling a hole. Ganker shrills, can’t help themselves can they. PS This event posted by the OP was not griefing IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Jordan\_Kerns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jordan_kerns/32/465999_2.png) [@Jordan\_Kerns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jordan_Kerns)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/410 "2022-02-03T12:28:07Z")
shh adults are talking lmao ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/411 "2022-02-03T12:29:02Z")
I wonder if Dracvlad has even _one_ friend in real life. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/412 "2022-02-03T12:29:46Z")
Adults LMAO… I wonder if you could answer this question as it intriguing me, I had a look at your killboard, and I have to ask how did you manage to lose so many Endurances? I did a huge amount of lowsec ice mining and have not lost a single one! It just seems a bit odd to lose that many? Ah I see, you were doing that ice event in lowsec, worked it out, still… ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/413 "2022-02-03T12:49:48Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > I wonder if you could answer this question as it intriguing me, I had a look at your killboard, and I have to ask how did you manage to lose so many Endurances? When all else fails……… try kill board shaming. A form of griefing that isn’t really actually griefing. “How dare you question me when you have lost all these endurances.” Perhaps he has lost because he isn’t a Krab and enjoys playing the game? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/414 "2022-02-03T12:54:30Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > When all else fails……… try kill board shaming. A form of griefing that isn’t really actually griefing. Actually it was a genuine question, but then I realised why as his losses coincided with that event at least from a casual look. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > “How dare you question me when you have lost all these endurances.” I was just surprised because I have used these ships a lot and have not lost a single one. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Perhaps he has lost because he isn’t a Krab and enjoys playing the game? But then again he is doing activities that people call Krabbing? Perhaps you want to defend him because your own killboard is even redder than his? But then again killboards are just part of the equation aren’t they? ---
**Author:** ![Jordan\_Kerns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jordan_kerns/32/465999_2.png) [@Jordan\_Kerns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jordan_Kerns)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/415 "2022-02-03T12:56:27Z")
yeah i wouldnt respond to the 8 year old karen… it will go on forever… this ones mother hasent shut off the internet, so the attention seeking will continue. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/416 "2022-02-03T12:57:52Z")
I got news for you, pal: he’s pushing 60. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/417 "2022-02-03T12:57:54Z")
Calm down ganker shrill, I have to say that this is a sexist remark you are making. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/418 "2022-02-03T12:58:34Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > Perhaps you want to defend him because your own killboard is even redder than his? Yeah that doesn’t work. I’m a miner and an explorer. I have no interest in engagements and occassionally i lose ships. So what? I play the game differently than you. So trying to get me to shut up by drawing attention to zkill isnt going to work. Especially since its only 2 days ago you seemed to be implying I’m a ganker. You should probably make a decision on how you wish to grief me and stick to it. Consistency is improtant ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/419 "2022-02-03T13:03:24Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Yeah that doesn’t work. I’m a miner and an explorer. I have no interest in engagements and occassionally i lose ships. So what? You are krabbing then, do you hate yourself based on the use of the word krab > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Perhaps he has lost because he isn’t a Krab and enjoys playing the game? Gathering resources is part of the game is it not? > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > I play the game differently than you. I don’t explore, the can puke did me in and I never went back to it, but I do mine, ice mainly. If you want to continue to think that ‘latching on’ is not important to your misunderstanding, what can I say… In what way am I griefing you? ---
**Author:** ![Jordan\_Kerns](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jordan_kerns/32/465999_2.png) [@Jordan\_Kerns](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jordan_Kerns)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/420 "2022-02-03T13:03:51Z")
ROFL … 60 year old karen? thats gold… figures though ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/421 "2022-02-03T13:05:45Z")
Sexist and ageist too. ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/422 "2022-02-03T13:14:27Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > In what way am I griefing you? Why did you bring up my killboard? Was it to discuss and interesting ship loss? Was it to discuss how much I have improved over the last 2 years given my loss frequency has dropped significantly? No…… not all. There was a clear implication that a red kill board needs to be “defended” like it needs to be excused in some way. Why do you constantly make veiled references hinting im a ganker? And when i ask you to clarify if you actually do think i am a ganker then you dodge the question. Sure you are saying you have answered by going on about this “latched on” terminology……. Which i have already told you I don’t understand. And here you are bringing it up in another thread basically saying “you are so dumb. You don’t understand what i understand. I am better than you”. Which is you attempting to ridicule me in public. Both of the above could be classed as griefing quite easily. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/423 "2022-02-03T13:26:55Z")
You brought up killboards to me with your fake indignation: > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > When all else fails……… try kill board shaming. A form of griefing that isn’t really actually griefing. And I wondered if you were sticking your oar in because your killboard is redder than his? Only logical thing I could come to as you are obviously upset with me over something and wanted to throw that at me. You wrongly assumed that my question to him was a dig based on his aggression and name calling towards towards me, but I was actually wanting to work out what he was doing to lose that many Endurances. Once I realised that he had been running those ice events it made sense. Mystery solved… I should also add that I am impressed with people who do lowsec mining, because they are going out of the normal comfort zone. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Why do you constantly make veiled references hinting im a ganker? And when i ask you to clarify if you actually do think i am a ganker then you dodge the question. Sure you are saying you have answered by going on about this “latched on” terminology……. Which i have already told you I don’t understand. And here you are bringing it up in another thread basically saying “you are so dumb. You don’t understand what i understand. I am better than you”. Which is you attempting to ridicule me in public. I replied to you with the words ‘latching on’, which you continue to ignore. I have you as a ganker shrill, whether you do this out of fear? Or just sucking up? I have no clue, of course wondering that would be a dig or griefing in your book. I don’t think you are dumb at all, but I think you are deliberately ignoring the answer I gave you, just so you can keep going off topic and show how good at Eve forums you are, but that is my opinion. I think that because you keep coming at me with that, I think you are griefing yourself in an attempt to score some odd forum point. Does your killboard look like a gankers killboard, seriously? I could not ban you from Gank-Intel as a ganker if that helps you? You are out there taking risks, good on you, I respect you for that, you might not want my respect, but I do respect you for it. When have I ever said that I am better than you? Do you want me too? ---
**Author:** ![Same\_Old\_Topics](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/same_old_topics/32/282720_2.png) [@Same\_Old\_Topics](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Same_Old_Topics)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/424 "2022-02-03T13:35:34Z")
You know… You’re absolutely right. I have _often_ railed against James and his Corp for acting like dancing fools and the “gosh shucks me?”/pseudo religious RP noncery, but in all honesty just like the ridiculous “I got groped in VR” stories, the folks code tries to spin up can easily ignore them. Can’t ignore the blown up ships, but there’s only a plethora of ways to avoid or shrug that off. I owe code an apology. A small one, but one all the same. If your victims didn’t want the RP, it’s within their power to stop receiving it at a moments notice. Sincerely, mea culpa. (There is no joke. I’m actually serious.) ---
**Author:** ![Etch\_Masuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/etch_masuka/32/468743_2.png) [@Etch\_Masuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Etch_Masuka)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/425 "2022-02-03T13:43:44Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > You brought up killboards to me with your fake indignation: Literally in the post right before the one you quoted YOU brought up someone else’s killboard. I simply called you out for attempting to kill board shame yet another player. It’s not fake indignation. It’s like every thread i look into you are insulted or abusing another player. Your constant bullying needs to be called out. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > upset with me over something Of course im upset with you. You have literally spent days defending players making death threats and threats of sexual assault against other players. I find that extremely upsetting, unsettling and unacceptable. Again you need to be called out for this behaviour. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > I replied to you with the words ‘latching on’, which you continue to ignore. Asking you what “latching on” means is not ignoring it. It’s saying I have no idea what it is you are trying to say and asking you clarify. Which you pointedly have been refusing to do while implying im stupid for not knowing. What’s a shrill? To me thats how you describe a high pitched scream. So again I don’t know what it is you are trying to say. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > When have I ever said that I am better than you? Do you want me too? Last time you attempted to killboard shame me for one. Which was actually quite amusing. You were going on and on about how its impossible to use local to avoid gankers as local is to busy. I pointed out that if players mined in quieter systems its very easy to use local and Dscan to avoid all gankers. You got all uppity and gave me the “look at my killboard and look at yours. Who do you think knows more about this game.” When i politely pointed out clearly showed that i had been losing mining ships and then i moved to a quieter area of space and stopped losing mining ships you put me on a 2 week ignore. It was delightful. My best forum experience to date. But either way is an example of behaviour you display every day. Belittling other players, claiming superiority and just generally being arrogant. Just quit acting like a d\*ck for one day. Please for the love of god. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/426 "2022-02-03T13:53:07Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Just quit acting like a d\*ck for one day. Please for the love of god. Going to “Preferences, Users, Ignored” is how I obtained instant results in this area. I find sparing, precise use works well. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/427 "2022-02-03T13:56:55Z")
> [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Literally in the post right before the one you quoted YOU brought up someone else’s killboard. I simply called you out for attempting to kill board shame yet another player. It’s not fake indignation. It’s like every thread i look into you are insulted or abusing another player. Your constant bullying needs to be called out. Did I mention your killboard until you went off on that ill advised and incorrect tangent. Above I was called a child, a Karen just because I asked if he hated people with just one account? Maybe my question could have been taken as an insult, but it was not, I was wondering why he thought it was good that they would have to wait around for others to do stuff. My reaction to his insult was to lightly chide him, thinking that this Karen insult was sexist. The Karen insult surprised me so I wonder if there was a reason for it and then I found it on his Bio, a ganker shrill. So I am bullying someone who called me names because I had a different view from him, and he got upset with me asking him if he hated single character players? > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Of course im upset with you. You have literally spent days defending players making death threats and threats of sexual assault against other players. I find that extremely upsetting, unsettling and unacceptable. Again you need to be called out for this behaviour. You are upsetting yourself because those so called events are false. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Asking you what “latching on” means is not ignoring it. It’s saying I have no idea what it is you are trying to say and asking you clarify. Which you pointedly have been refusing to do while implying im stupid for not knowing. You attached yourself to an on-going thing, got it. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > What’s a shrill? To me thats how you describe a high pitched scream. So again I don’t know what it is you are trying to say. It is a play on words that I find rather amusing. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Last time you attempted to killboard shame me for one. Which was actually quite amusing. You were going on and on about how its impossible to use local to avoid gankers as local is to busy. I pointed out that if players mined in quieter systems its very easy to use local and Dscan to avoid all gankers. You got all uppity and gave me the “look at my killboard and look at yours. Who do you think knows more about this game.” I said busy system, you started going off on empty systems when my comment was on busy systems, seriously? I was operating out of Osmon when there was over 200 in local running SOE missions. On my killboard are kills on the CODE ganker that operated there. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > When i politely pointed out clearly showed that i had been losing mining ships and then i moved to a quieter area of space and stopped losing mining ships you put me on a 2 week ignore. I put you on a two week ignore because you kept on telling me to use a quieter area of space, when in fact I do and was merely pointing out that the busier a system is the more difficult it is to watch local. It got tedious to keep telling you that. > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > It was delightful. My best forum experience to date. But either way is an example of behaviour you display every day. Belittling other players, claiming superiority and just generally being arrogant. Are you proud of that forum experience, oh my… > [@Etch\_Masuka](#): > > Just quit acting like a d\*ck for one day. Please for the love of god. Says the person who follows me around going for the 10th time, for the 11th time. > [@Io\_Koval](#): > > Going to “Preferences, Users, Ignored” is how I obtained instant results in this area. I find sparing, precise use works well. Please do what this player suggested. ---
**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/428 "2022-02-03T13:58:12Z")
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