# Griefing ruins the game **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [January 2, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880 "2022-01-02T00:21:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/510 "2022-02-03T19:57:16Z")
> [@Ricky\_Tock](#): > > LOL okay that was funny. > > I don’t even see how secks has anything to do with this. It doesn’t matter whether your avi is female. > > I go about internet business safely assuming everyone I speak to is androgynous. Yes but I’m making the point that people can’t have it both ways. If nobody knows person X’s rl details, which is how it should be, then whence come some of the claims above ? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/511 "2022-02-03T19:57:50Z")
> [@Same\_Old\_Topics](#): > > If true… that’d clear some things up. Well I think it is, and with respect that is all that really matters to me. I had that cretin follow me around for years until he managed to get himself banned by CCP Falcon himself. The posting style and following me around is a dead give away. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/512 "2022-02-03T20:01:17Z")
> [@Dracvlad](#): > > At times yes, the problem is that he/she whatever cannot help but make snide digs and Cathy Newman like comments. > > @Cilla_Cybin I still chuckle every time you use Cathy Newman… I’m no great fan of Jordan Peterson…but the way he unravelled her fallacious use of ‘so you’re saying that…’ was just a masterpiece. ---
**Author:** ![Same\_Old\_Topics](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/same_old_topics/32/282720_2.png) [@Same\_Old\_Topics](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Same_Old_Topics)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/513 "2022-02-03T20:02:26Z")
He’s difficult to take in long draws, but concur. She wanted to “gotcha” him so hard. ---
**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/514 "2022-02-03T20:02:31Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > Yes but I’m making the point that people can’t have it both ways. If nobody knows person X’s rl details, which is how it should be, then whence come some of the claims above ? So you’re saying because you use a female avatar, you are automatically against sexual harrassment? LOL. Do you not see what’s wrong with that logic? > [@Dracvlad](#): > > Well I think it is, and with respect that is all that really matters to me. I had that cretin follow me around for years until he managed to get himself banned by CCP Falcon himself. The posting style and following me around is a dead give away. Hate to break it to you boyo, but I’ve never been banned from EVE 😃 This has, and always shall be, my only main. In fact, I’m pretty excited for Mortal Online 2 because of the one char thing. One day I guess I’ll have to look up this dude’s posts. > [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I’m no great fan of Jordan Peterson…but the way he unravelled her fallacious use of ‘so you’re saying that…’ was just a masterpiece. Oh quafe. You’re a Peterson stan. This explains almost everything now. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/515 "2022-02-03T20:06:49Z")
I saw him debating Sam Harris recently. Now Sam Harris truly is top notch logic and someone I admire…whereas Jordan Peterson is great when on topic but wanders off into spurious ‘logos’ stuff and seems to think he’s the new Allan Watts. ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/516 "2022-02-03T20:08:14Z")
Destingy Corrupted is temp blocked permanently for 37 minutes. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/517 "2022-02-03T20:09:34Z")
Mercy… ---
**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/518 "2022-02-03T20:11:21Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Mercy… I’m sorry, I can neither read what you write nor respond to it. There will be no mercy for griefers and space bully trolls. who are to blame for my actions and statements. Your ban is permenantly extended temporarily for 73.2 seconds, as you have tried to circumvent the ban by having me quote your text to rebuttal you. CALMDOWNSHRILL ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/519 "2022-02-03T20:14:36Z")
I now see the error of my ways, and wish to repent to all of the upstanding individuals I have wronged on these forums. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/520 "2022-02-03T20:17:00Z")
Pokes my head out of the trenches to see if anyone’s playing football in no-man’s land. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/521 "2022-02-03T20:19:12Z")
LOL, I just see 4 hidden (blocked) posts, anyway off to watch TV for a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Luthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/luthe/32/307130_2.png) [@Luthe](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Luthe)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/522 "2022-02-03T20:26:02Z")
> [@Ricky\_Tock](#): > > @Dracvlad so that’s how you deal with conflict? You block and run away? Coward griefer. > [@Dracvlad](#): > > LOL, I just see 4 hidden (blocked) posts, anyway off to watch TV for a bit. Ah, so escapism is how you deal with conflict. I can relate, but fortunately I am able-bodied with a life ahead of me. Can you say the same? What are your regrets @Dracvlad ? Is it how much time you have spent here instead of in front of your TV? ---
**Author:** ![Ricky\_Tock](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ricky_tock/32/297351_2.png) [@Ricky\_Tock](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ricky_Tock)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 8:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/523 "2022-02-03T20:49:31Z")
> [@Cilla\_Cybin](#): > > I’m making the point that people can’t have it both ways. If nobody knows person X’s rl details, which is how it should be, then whence come some of the claims above ? Comments were made in another thread. You have defended those comments. Your defense seems to be that there is a double standard. I do not see a double standard. There would be one if gankers did not condemn those who acted the same way as a certain AG who claims to have blocked me. Aiko is in this thread repeatedly stating that gankers who act in a similar manner do not receive the defense you are giving the AG who acted poorly. Maybe you see a double standard in certain players being offended in the first place? I kinda understand that. If RL issues don’t matter supposedly, then why get offended? Yes and no. I think about RL death threats and other sinister acts of a similar nature already discussed in this thread. There needs to be a line drawn somewhere. No one should be made to fear for their physical safety. Did the accused cross that line? In this thread or in others? Claims were made to the positive. Whether or not that is true is what you seem to be debating against: the validity of another to fear for their physical safety. If only he didn’t involve secks, but clearly he can’t help himself. Nor can you help him either. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 9:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/524 "2022-02-03T21:16:04Z")
> [@Gix\_Firebrand](#): > > I’m pretty excited for Mortal Online 2 because of the one char thing. Yes Gix, I’m having a look at that too. Not only the one character bit, but also the genuine PvP culture. There surely cannot be a ‘Griefing Ruins the Game’ thread on their forums because, like EVE, it’s understood that you _will_ die (and lose all the stuff you have with you). _Unlike_ EVE, there’s not likely to be a chorus of ‘Yes, but I _shouldn’t!_’ Remains to be seen whether it will work; I see they’ve had some teething problems with the servers. Worth a watch. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 9:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/525 "2022-02-03T21:19:04Z")
Half of the threads on Steam are _already_ complaining about the open-world PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sasha_nemtsov/32/393707_2.png) [@Sasha\_Nemtsov](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sasha_Nemtsov)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 9:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/526 "2022-02-03T21:22:21Z")
I’ve only looked at it today Destiny, and I’ll hold off on buying it until things settle down. I don’t know if I can afford to get enmeshed in another video game world! My guess is that the crafters want to be left alone to gather their pansies in peace - and not be bonked on the bonce for their troubles. Right? 😄 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/527 "2022-02-03T21:24:22Z")
Last time I checked was before/at release, and people were just spamming the whole “going to be a griefer paradise, add PvE server!” stuff. Just checked now, and looks like 95% of threads are “this is a scam, servers don’t work!” As someone who plays a lot of PvP games (like, _real_ PvP like survival games, and not DotA), I can attest that the forums for all are always full of people railing against PvP. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 9:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/528 "2022-02-03T21:29:30Z")
Spending time with my wife, no regrets there. Some of you ganker types want to make it oh so personal and nasty, can’t help yourself can you? Look another alt with no history… I don’t have to read your crap, your insults and the like. The block function on this forum mostly works, so I use it, and most of all this is indifference on my part. Though I have one regret, it is simply that I did not use this block function like I am using it now. ---
**Author:** ![Cilla\_Cybin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cilla_cybin/32/292206_2.png) [@Cilla\_Cybin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cilla_Cybin)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2022, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/529 "2022-02-03T21:55:08Z")
> [@Ricky\_Tock](#): > > Comments were made in another thread. You have defended those comments. I haven’t ‘defended’ anything. I quite rightly saw that the issue was being _used_ by someone else to make unjustifiable aspersions on people who had nothing to do with it all…and I objected to that. If anyone was taking a moral and ‘anti abuse’ stance here it was me. Others were merely point scoring. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880.md?page=25) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880.md?page=27)