# Griefing ruins the game

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [January 2, 2022, 12:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880 "2022-01-02T00:21:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 7

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/123 "2022-01-03T08:15:14Z")

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I’ve chosen solo play for a reason. I’m not going to stop just because I get outnumbered; the pros far outweigh the cons.

That doesn’t mean I can’t ■■■■■ about it.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:15am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/124 "2022-01-03T08:15:37Z")

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Nobody can stop you from being a crybaby.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/125 "2022-01-03T08:18:49Z")

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Right! If I want to whine sometimes about things I perceive as unfair, I’m entitled to that.

Just like your entitled to gank people who can’t defend themselves, like mike tyson mugging an old lady.

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**Author:** ![Aiko\_Danuja](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aiko_danuja/32/481237_2.png) [@Aiko\_Danuja](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aiko_Danuja)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/126 "2022-01-03T08:19:33Z")

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I’m just glad you’ve admitted that you are an exaggerated whiner.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/127 "2022-01-03T08:25:30Z")

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I’ve never denied that I ■■■■■ and moan about things a lot. Most of my forum posts are me complaining about stuff I don’t like.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/128 "2022-01-03T08:26:45Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> I’ve chosen solo play for a reason

Can’t you just apply that solo strategy to your venting and just cry alone inside a little instead of opening a forum post about it? Or do you deliberately reduce the MMO aspect of this game to the sharing of your tears?

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/129 "2022-01-03T08:28:00Z")

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No. Making a forum post makes me feel better about it. If you don’t like that, you can just block me. It is really easy.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/130 "2022-01-03T08:31:19Z")

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Why should I block you? I’m happy responding to your posts and pointing out how ridiculous they are as much as is needed.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/131 "2022-01-03T08:32:34Z")

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Righto! Hostility towards a fellow player venting is certainly what is needed!

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**Author:** ![Gix\_Firebrand](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/gix_firebrand/32/456949_2.png) [@Gix\_Firebrand](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Gix_Firebrand)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/132 "2022-01-03T08:35:16Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> I don’t agree it is valid, I know it exists. Pointing out that existence isn’t agreeing with its core concept.
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> Big difference. Stop being dense.

You literally agreed. Its in your own words right there. Its ok bro, you clearly just like being dramatic 😃

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> I literally just said “15v1 isn’t fun”.
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> I understand its a built in mechanic. I understand I will lose rollers sometimes closing wormholes – there is no way around that – no matter how good you are. And I have accepted that.
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> I’ve been playing solo since may and I’ve accepted I won’t get many fair fights, and that most, if not all of the time, I will be outnumbered.
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> The point of this post was not to change anything, it was just me venting that I’m tired of being wildly outnumbered in fights.
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> Its really that simple.
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> There are several trolls on this forum who hate me though and turn everything into a massive personal fight.

You literally choose to be alone and know that it means you may get blobbed. Why make dramatic posts then? So you’re saying you are the drama 😃

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> I’ve chosen solo play for a reason. I’m not going to stop just because I get outnumbered; the pros far outweigh the cons.
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> That doesn’t mean I can’t ■■■■■ about it.

You can play solo. And if you complain about it, clearly you can see its your own fault haha.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> No. Making a forum post makes me feel better about it. If you don’t like that, you can just block me. It is really easy.

I simply cannot believe you are a grown person.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/133 "2022-01-03T08:36:40Z")

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Indeed, what grown person would reach out to the community they are a member of when they have a problem with something?

Only children do that.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/134 "2022-01-03T08:46:36Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Righto! Hostility towards a fellow player venting is certainly what is needed!

Do you feel I was hostile towards you?

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**Author:** ![Scipio\_Artelius](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scipio_artelius/32/408264_2.png) [@Scipio\_Artelius](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scipio_Artelius)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/135 "2022-01-03T08:52:10Z")

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> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> Righto! Hostility towards a fellow player venting is certainly what is needed!

You’re entitled to vent, but everyone else is just as entitled to respond how they like also.

What would you have, we all just pat you on the back with a “there, there child. It’ll be ok”?

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 8:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/136 "2022-01-03T08:58:31Z")

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I had no expectations of any of you. I make the post for myself, not for any of you.

What you do is on you.

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/137 "2022-01-03T09:01:29Z")

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> [@Karak\_Terrel](#):
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> Or do you deliberately reduce the MMO aspect of this game to the sharing of your tears?

Yes, you said: “do you deliberately reduce the MMO aspect of this game to the sharing of your tears?”  
Thats certainly not friendly or lukewarm.

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**Author:** ![Karak\_Terrel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karak_terrel/32/373453_2.png) [@Karak\_Terrel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karak_Terrel)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/138 "2022-01-03T09:08:28Z")

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Do you feel the urge to make a new forum post to vent about it?

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**Author:** ![Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/arcturen_sanguis/32/261712_2.png) [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Arcturen_Sanguis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 9:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/139 "2022-01-03T09:09:55Z")

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No, that doesn’t bother me.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 10:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/140 "2022-01-03T10:45:23Z")

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Then I dont see the problem.  
Solo is the hardest way to play.

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> what grown person would reach out to the community

> [@Arcturen\_Sanguis](#):
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> I make the post for myself, not for any of you.

Make up your mind.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/141 "2022-01-03T12:27:42Z")

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Some advice to keep in mind whilst you play eve.

> [@8 Golden Rules for EVE Online](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/8-golden-rules-for-eve-online/3973):
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> [image] These are based on [Akita T’s Golden rules for new players](https://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=588605), originally published on the old forums. Be able to afford a loss Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can’t afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec. Meaning that you should not fly a ship you cannot afford to replace and refit. Consent to PvP You consent to PvP when you click “undock”. You are not safe in 1.0 security space. [CONCORD](https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203208902-CONCORD) is there to punish, not to protect. Get used to the idea. In most case…

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**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/griefing-ruins-the-game/343880/142 "2022-01-03T14:31:11Z")

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I would suggest if you don’t want anyone in the community to interact with your posts, to open up word document and type it out since it’s “for you” and not “us”

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