# Guardian Gala sites

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 13, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024 "2018-02-13T13:40:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/81 "2018-02-14T11:36:48Z")

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> [@CCP\_Dragon](#):
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> This is a bit different. They have behavior that allows them to warp based on certain conditions. I’ll probably avoid this in the future, but we’ll leave it in this event for now.

NOOOOOooooo. Leave this in please (well fix the bugs maybe). This makes the sites more interesting and challenging.

I have to say that I am really enjoying this event, it is up there with Warzone. Far Far above Alpha Strike and the Rogue Drones.

@CCP_Dragon I know you are seeing (and have seen previously) conflicting feedback on these sites. We the players drop roughly into two groups when it comes to your Events.

- those that want them simple and quick
- those that want an interesting challenge

Maybe you can have some sort of indicator in The Agency briefing (These npc’s are expected to be highly dangerous) that would tell people “hey, maybe you should be careful here”  
Or  
Maybe you could alternate simple and complex Events.

Personally I’d like all the events to have a similar level of challenge to this one and Warzone Extraction, but I recognise that there are players of differing skill levels that should not be shut out of _every_ event.

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**Author:** ![Tipa\_Riot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tipa_riot/32/443513_2.png) [@Tipa\_Riot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tipa_Riot)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/82 "2018-02-14T12:18:47Z")

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Not true, I can clear the sites solo faster than in the previous event.

I like the event so far, it poses some fitting and tactic challenge, but I found a way to win contests 95% of the time. I expect people will figure out the trick pretty soon, and then it will become really interesting.

The only sad part for me is, that I had to sacrifice the PvP option on my Loki to be able to beat the sites as fast as possible and snatch the loot, namely drop the scram.

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**Author:** ![Abyss\_Azizora](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/abyss_azizora/32/15938_2.png) [@Abyss\_Azizora](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Abyss_Azizora)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/83 "2018-02-14T12:33:05Z")

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People are seriously having trouble doing these? I’m ACTUALLY going AFK and doing other stuff as my ship auto-completes these sites. Passive tank a gila, give it kin/explosive resists, and give it two Navy Valks and win while not even at the keyboard. The battleship rat hitting someone above for 6.5k damage only does 800 or so damage to a properly tanked gila. (Which a passive tank laughs at.)

PS: Talking about the standard sites of course, the VIP sites are a whole other story unless your using a carrier.

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**Author:** ![Roth\_Amschel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roth_amschel/32/225712_2.png) [@Roth\_Amschel](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roth_Amschel)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/84 "2018-02-14T12:37:19Z")

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Just to add my .02 Isk, I couldn’t take down a single frigate let alone clear a site. I am, however, a newish player and an alpha and maybe the event wasn’t intended for new players or low sp alphas, and that’s fine. Bitter vets need lovin too 😉

As other people have said maybe a little warning would be nice. Similar to how you’re warned of anomic missions. (Lumberg voice). That’d be great…

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/85 "2018-02-14T12:37:28Z")

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Site’s are solo-able in a well fit frig 🙂 as long as you fly it well.

Edit: apparently they can alpha you randomly thou so possible but you will die eventually haha.  
“12:52:16 Combat 1575 from Guardian Angels Hanael - Wrecks”

I love these rat’s they seem to try and counter you the whole time very fun ^\_^.

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/86 "2018-02-14T13:04:18Z")

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> [@Makshima\_Shogo](#):
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> Edit: apparently they can alpha you randomly thou so possible but you will die eventually haha.

Yeah. Like those Burner Talos, while assaulting them in a frigate.

Is it worth it?

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/87 "2018-02-14T13:05:42Z")

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Well first site tanked fine then second site spawned more web’s and dead so probably not worth it, as af’s are like 60mil a pop and you cant really activate your assault damage control because you don’t know when they will alpha you. Might work with a passive shield regen fit as that has nice buffer, harpy should be good but I cant test as I don’t have caldari frig 5.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/88 "2018-02-14T13:14:29Z")

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> [@Chan\_aar](#):
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> Maybe you could alternate simple and complex Events.

Could have a simple and complex version per event to cater for both croweds with different rewards :] (more work thou :/)

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**Author:** ![Rexxar\_Santaro](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rexxar_santaro/32/420075_2.png) [@Rexxar\_Santaro](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rexxar_Santaro)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/89 "2018-02-14T13:30:32Z")

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Current normal Low-Sec Gala sites aren’t harder than common Hi-Sec types. Time to time they just spawns two addition frigates and one Cruiser. That’s all.

Suggestions for Low-Sec Gala sites:

- improve the Jeremel’s Web strength. Because the current strength allows you to fly on 100 m/s with 4-5 Webifiers on!
- add 3-4 more frigates per warp in wave;
- add 1 addition Cruiser per warp in;
- summon one BC just before last BS boss;
- or summon both BC and BS boss;
- or summon a BS boss with 5 frigates and two addition Cruisers at the same time. A kind of ‘spike offensive’.

[updated] RNG and ‘spike offensive’ modes will be very good vs AFK rating and other kind of bots, which is well discussed on this forum.

Suggestions for Null-Sec Gala sites:

- frigates should have Warp Disruptors 👩‍❤️‍💋‍👨. It’ll be ‘perfectly aligned’ to 0.0 philosophy;
- add a Dreadnought to VIP sites ;
- and MOAR rats.

Here’s another Gila-Gala fit to roam Low-Sec Gala sites. This is good because it can be used by Alpha pilots and this is good because it’s much cheaper than any well fitted T3 Cruiser!

Changes:

- I improved the dps;
- I downgraded the Signature. So, the BS aren’t so terrifying even with 3 T-Painters and Webifiers on;
- I improved resistances;
- usable with all T1/T2 modules;

An aggressive ‘semi-buffer-active’ tanking fit with cheap DED modules:

```
[Gila, Gila-Gala]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Pith A-Type Explosive Deflection Field
Large Shield Extender II
Gist A-Type Kinetic Deflection Field
Large Shield Extender II
AML Compact Omnidirectional Tracking Link
10MN Afterburner II

Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor I
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher
Arbalest Compact Light Missile Launcher

Medium Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Valkyrie II x5
Hammerhead II x5

Tracking Speed Script x36
Scourge Light Missile x3160
Inferno Light Missile x2000

```

To make it max easy, firstly orbit the site beacon at 10km, then the last boss. Three Cruisers will Paint your Gila under 400m Sig, which is ok while BS is on. The BC Hanael will keep on your Gila like 220-250 sustained damage, even with minimal signature. Don’t let on grid more than 4 Cruisers, because each of their T-Painters will increase their damage proportionally.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/90 "2018-02-14T13:33:08Z")

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The rewards of the gala site are the same thou, so to make high sec easier for same rewards makes no sense.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/91 "2018-02-14T13:46:52Z")

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I’m pretty sure the rewards for low sec are better than high sec.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/92 "2018-02-14T13:48:29Z")

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Null atm is only skin + an implant every now and then and a drug.

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**Author:** ![Karl\_Poljus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karl_poljus/32/173233_2.png) [@Karl\_Poljus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karl_Poljus)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/93 "2018-02-14T13:50:26Z")

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Implant does not drop in high as far as i’m aware.

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**Author:** ![Kaivarian\_Coste](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kaivarian_coste/32/413759_2.png) [@Kaivarian\_Coste](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kaivarian_Coste)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/94 "2018-02-14T14:16:22Z")

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I remember CCP saying some time ago that rewards go from (best to worse): Low Sec → Null/WH → High Sec

edit:

> At the moment High Sec and Null Sec have similar riskiness in comparison with Low Sec. Yes, High and Null are very different but when compared to Low, they don’t seem that different from each other. Therefore, Low Sec is the place to put the best rewards.

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**Author:** ![Agondray](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/agondray/32/414989_2.png) [@Agondray](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Agondray)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/95 "2018-02-14T14:40:52Z")

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all NPCs forever to warp in and out like they target switch and freely attack you from 500kms while you can do jack for all, pvp for everyone.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/96 "2018-02-14T14:43:07Z")

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I did say fix the bugs, which they appear to have done. The Gala npc’s no longer (at least not that I have seen since dt) get stuck 400km+ out.

They either warp back or warp off altogether, so whats the problem?

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**Author:** ![Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/beast_of_revelations/32/413187_2.png) [@Beast\_of\_Revelations](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Beast_of_Revelations)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/97 "2018-02-14T14:46:35Z")

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I like the event thus far (just throwing my 0.2 ISK for feedback).

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**Author:** ![Jenne\_Wain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenne_wain/32/71483_2.png) [@Jenne\_Wain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenne_Wain)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/98 "2018-02-14T15:11:18Z")

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@CCP_Dragon Since you are active in this thread, I was wondering if you could comment on how the rewards were determined for this event? For example, the decision to not have the NPCs provide bounties.

I’m not going to complain about what the rewards are (though I’m happy to share my opinion if you ask), I’m just curious about what the philosophy for the reward calculations were, particularly as compared to the previous event which was much easier but also much more lucrative (arguably more accessible to less experienced players, bounties on all NPCs, etc.)

To be clear, I’m not complaining, just wondering if there was any insight on this that you would be willing to share with us.

Again, loving this event so far and really appreciate the general way in which this was done. Kudos to the team.

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**Author:** ![Karl\_Poljus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/karl_poljus/32/173233_2.png) [@Karl\_Poljus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Karl_Poljus)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/99 "2018-02-14T15:18:06Z")

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> [@Jenne\_Wain](#):
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> particularly as compared to the previous event which was much easier but also much more lucrative

Not really, in drone event accelerators dropped from every fifth site, now you are almost guaranteed to get standard one(20mil) every site and 1/3 chance for advanced(40mil) or serpentis “somethingsomething”(100mil). I already made 2bill on those, prices will surely drop but so far this event is much more lucrative.

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**Author:** ![Jenne\_Wain](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jenne_wain/32/71483_2.png) [@Jenne\_Wain](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jenne_Wain)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/100 "2018-02-14T15:24:20Z")

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> [@Karl\_Poljus](#):
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> Not really, in drone event accelerators dropped from every fifth site, now you are almost guaranteed to get standard one(20mil) every site

Interesting data point. That has not been my experience. I have only run 4 sites, but I have only gotten one accelerator. On two sites, I wound up with a frigate skin, some fireworks, and 250k ISK in bounties. On one I got a booster, a skin, and 250k in bounties, so I am not seeing the same thing as you are reporting, but I may just be getting a poor “dice roll” 🙂 .

Again, not complaining, just wondering what the reward design for this was.

For the record, I am running in HS, as I did the last event.

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