# Guardian Gala sites

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [February 13, 2018, 1:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024 "2018-02-13T13:40:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nana\_SkaIski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skaiski/32/126779_2.png) [@Nana\_SkaIski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_SkaIski)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 7:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/121 "2018-02-15T07:36:45Z")

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I used Stratios (it needs some amarr cruiser skills tho) armor hardened for explosive and kinetic damage, tech II medium armor repairer, big armor plate, afterburner. Rigs for armor repair amount. No damage mods tho, only some tracking scripts in the middle for destroying the smaller frigates that web. 2 big meta level capacitor batteries. Heavy berserker drones. Probably this could also work with Vexors Navy Issue.  
It worked nicely for Stratios, it was able to complete sites with battleship spawn. You have to destroy the frigate webifiers and keep transversal high, orbit closely around battleship, battlecriser, cruiser boss (with a different name) when it spawns. If you destroy the boss ship, the rest will warp out immediately.

If you warp out somewhere and then back in, the boss will probably leave the site and all the time will go to waste.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 8:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/122 "2018-02-15T08:46:30Z")

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Sooo, after reading this thread it seems to me a Deadspace PvE fit is needed to complete the site.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 9:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/123 "2018-02-15T09:17:24Z")

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I run a T2 fit, no sweat at all.  
However if you don’t have great skills, simply ok skills, you probably need something like a Battleship to make up for the lack of skills. Completing the sites in a smaller ship requires some situational awareness and a knowledge of orbit mechanics to avoid getting one volleyed off the grid  
Hint, a VNI probably doesn’t have enough armour EHP to avoid a one shot volley from the battleship if you get webbed and TP’ed and get an unlucky shot. The Stratios resist bonus matters.

Gal ships look at the drone BC & BS options, though I’ve also seen a Hyperion running the sites.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/124 "2018-02-15T09:22:51Z")

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I have max skills and mainly fly a Deadspace fit Loki to run the lv 4 epic arcs. How are these sites compared to those?

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 9:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/125 "2018-02-15T09:29:10Z")

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Volley on the BS can be pretty big on a wrecking shot, but if it can handle the epic arcs it should be not a problem in the sites.  
Most of the time you’ll have 4ish 60% webbing frigates and 3ish TP cruisers in site, you can kill them down, but more keep coming, then the boss spawns, while you kill them normally more frigs & cruisers spawn also.  
Funnily enough doing it with two pilots you can keep the site nearly 100% empty pretty easy, so two pilots working together actually does feel sort of worth it.

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**Author:** ![Makshima\_Shogo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/makshima_shogo/32/247769_2.png) [@Makshima\_Shogo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Makshima_Shogo)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 9:56am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/126 "2018-02-15T09:56:19Z")

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It would more than likely go through all armor and into hull but probably not 1 shot dead, unless you fit a plate as well as rep then you should be good.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 10:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/127 "2018-02-15T10:29:42Z")

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Loki is probably not the best resist wise but I am sure you know how to fit a pve ship.

Biggest issue for a gun fit Loki will be having to take out both close range fast moving webbers and cruiser, bc’s and bs’s that can hang out at 40km.

Much easier than some of the epic arc missions.

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**Author:** ![Tsero\_Tseronae](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tsero_tseronae/32/181856_2.png) [@Tsero\_Tseronae](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tsero_Tseronae)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/128 "2018-02-15T10:57:12Z")

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What on Earth is going on with these sites? I just took a load of damage from stuff ( I assume cruisers or the BC) that was not appearing on the overview. I loaded Default-\> All to the overview to be sure and still no sign. I could see these enemies in space, but they weren’t on the overview nor could I lock on to them. The frigates seemed to be functioning properly. Had to leave my MTU and of course, when I warped out, the site beacon disappeared.

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 11:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/129 "2018-02-15T11:08:24Z")

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This is an issue that has plagued Eve for a very long time. Your overview settings are held locally on your PC so CCP does not / cannot update them when a new npc type is introduced.

I always enter new content with “show every thing” (alt +z) turned on then at least you can see them on the HUD and add them to your overview.

I think @CCP_Dragon is looking in to this. I suspect that all new npc types for events are now going to be in the “Irregular” group.

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**Author:** ![elitatwo](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/elitatwo/32/373473_2.png) [@elitatwo](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/elitatwo)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/130 "2018-02-15T11:20:04Z")

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> [@Chan\_aar](#):
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> I suspect that all new npc types for events are now going to be in the “Irregular” group.

I can confirm that. You have to manually add those in the “entities” tab in the overview settings. They are called “irregular event something”.  
If you are doing a VIP site, do not shoot any of the fighters or you will have to get a new ship.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/131 "2018-02-15T11:22:23Z")

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> [@Tsero\_Tseronae](#):
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> I loaded Default-\> All to the overview

That is not actually ‘All’.  
I recommend manually creating a ‘The real ALL’ overview, and every update open overview settings and make sure it really has every single thing that can show in the overview checked.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/132 "2018-02-15T11:58:08Z")

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> [@Chan\_aar](#):
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> Loki is probably not the best resist wise but I am sure you know how to fit a pve ship.
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> Biggest issue for a gun fit Loki will be having to take out both close range fast moving webbers and cruiser, bc’s and bs’s that can hang out at 40km.
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> Much easier than some of the epic arc missions.

I actually have a pretty tough Loki, course it’s a bling fit which allows me to easily solo all of the level 4 epic arcs. Usually close webbers are quickly dealt with Drones and 40km range can be easily reached.

Anyway, I get the impression that these sites are very tough but your statement say’s these sites are easier than the epic arcs. I’m definitely confused.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_SkaIski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skaiski/32/126779_2.png) [@Nana\_SkaIski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_SkaIski)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/133 "2018-02-15T11:58:31Z")

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> [@Chan\_aar](#):
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> Your overview settings are held locally on your PC so CCP does not / cannot update them when a new npc type is introduced.

So they cant modify it by adding a line?  
Notification of this kind in the game when first time log in after patch:

“Do you want to add new NPCs to overview [name of current overview]? (list of NPCs)”

And then write to the file.

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**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/134 "2018-02-15T12:06:29Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Anyway, I get the impression that these sites are very tough but your statement say’s these sites are easier than the epic arcs. I’m definitely confused.

They are tough if you aren’t prepared, but the lvl 4 epic arcs are very rough in a few cases. As long as your loki has over 12k primary tank and you keep at full, you won’t be one shot podded.

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**Author:** ![Iwo\_Sh\_ivah](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/iwo_sh_ivah/32/32800_2.png) [@Iwo\_Sh\_ivah](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Iwo_Sh_ivah)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/135 "2018-02-15T12:09:15Z")

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Eos with Berserkers is a pretty much no brainer in regular sites. Go in, park at the beacon, unleash drones and wait for a BC/BS.

Although I really like that devs are fiddling with the ideas I have to say I find the new AI and it’s “unlockable” state quite frustrating …

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/136 "2018-02-15T12:26:24Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Anyway, I get the impression that these sites are very tough but your statement say’s these sites are easier than the epic arcs. I’m definitely confused.

That is because of the differing view points of the players. There are people saying they are difficult, these are either the unprepared, the rookie or those that want _push button receive bacon_ type events.

Then there are the prepared, the veteran, the _wants a challenge_ type people.

I have a feeling you will fit into the second group 😉. Just don’t approach it thinking it is the terrible snooze fest Alpha Strike type event.

Oh and watch your drones.

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**Author:** ![DeMichael\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/demichael_crimson/32/514115_2.png) [@DeMichael\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/DeMichael_Crimson)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/137 "2018-02-15T12:27:49Z")

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Well, according to pyfa my Loki has:  
24.7k EHP’s  
1059.6 hp/s shield boost  
77.2% EM, 72.6% Therm, 72.6% Kin, 77.2% Exp  
773 DPS  
60.2% Cap Stable  
698 m/s speed

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/138 "2018-02-15T12:35:25Z")

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> [@DeMichael\_Crimson](#):
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> Well, according to pyfa my Loki has

My Tengu (which is a passive shield fit .. no booster) has  
50% more ehp  
no boost (passive)  
37.5% / 75% / 71.9% / 84.8%  
468 DPS (t1 Scourge HM)  
cap stable at like 75%  
598 m/s speed

So, Tengu with heavies does fine. As long as that is not an Ancillary booster you are running, yeah no issues (other than gun range as I said before as you will be webbed, a lot).

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**Author:** ![Nana\_SkaIski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skaiski/32/126779_2.png) [@Nana\_SkaIski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_SkaIski)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/139 "2018-02-15T12:41:20Z")

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Have anyone tried Carrier in a subcap?

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**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardian-gala-sites/57024/140 "2018-02-15T12:44:16Z")

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> [@Nana\_SkaIski](#):
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> Have anyone tried Carrier in a subcap?

Several of us, both on SISI and TQ and as far as I know this is the only success.

> [@Guardian's Gala VIP site](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-vip-site/57321):
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> A buddy and I just managed to conquer them sites in highsec on SiSi and I hope it will help you along. All you need are one or two Golems with explosive cruise missiles. The thanatos does have 62.15% explosive resistance and since I only had explosive with me, it took a while to get the armor layer down. My estimate is that it is above one million ehp. However the minmatar carrier has 0% explosive resistance at all layers, so you will have an easy time, shooting the shields down, after which …

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