# Guardian's Gala 2020 **URL:** \ **Category:** Missions\ **Tags:** live-event\ **Created:** [February 13, 2020, 1:07pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548 "2020-02-13T13:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![12evan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/12evan/32/188338_2.png) [@12evan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/12evan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 8:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/124 "2020-02-21T20:42:53Z")
Not at all. I was simply relating the discussion to the rest of Eve’s activities. How mission or industry and other activities have other variables that impact their profitability and somethings worth is more complicated than the value estimate or current market trends. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > It’s not devaluated. It’s the value it is worth. A high supply and low demand item is devalued. Basing event loot value on periods of high supply and lower value is short sighted and reserved for people looking for quick ISK and quick selling. Either way. Gala loot will increase in value unless something changes to increase the supply outside of the event time frame. Making current value estimations irrelevant and the choice to do said activities are purely speculative because we are unable to predict the future of the game state. So unless you have insider knowledge continue to troll away. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 8:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/125 "2020-02-21T20:46:51Z")
> [@12evan](#): > > Not at all. Yes, completely out of context, thus completely off topic. You use another meaning for a term that is used, and therefore your post if completely off-topic. > [@12evan](#): > > You are looking at a very specific subset of data and ignoring the big picture… I am not. I’m telling you are an idiot if you consider that putting together two activities that are not worth doing, makes the combination worth it. You are just showing with your complete off-topic stupidity that you are trolling. > [@12evan](#): > > A high supply and low demand item is devalued. No it’s not. Some items will keep having a low value, years after the event. An item that won’t get value, is therefore not devalued. ---
**Author:** ![12evan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/12evan/32/188338_2.png) [@12evan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/12evan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 8:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/126 "2020-02-21T20:52:55Z")
Not at all. Called an opinion. You think something is not worth doing and say the value of an item is its value without taking into consideration price fluctuations. Having something sitting in a cargo bay for however long is not an activity. It requires no activity on my part to leave it in a cargo bay. I can re-visit and consider selling it next time it comes to my attention. Your opinion is they are not worth running because of no instant gratification in the ISK department. My opinion and a few of the others above are that they are because the value of said items will rise and that it is a change in pace. I think you are in the same boat as me, and bored at work… arguing for the sake of arguing on matters of opinion. FYI. > [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > Again, if it was worth keeping those items, you could just mass buy them in the market and sell them later. If you don’t, that means your investment is not worth it. Off topic. We are not talking about buying and reselling said items. How dare you relate this to a completely different activity than what we are discussing. Nothing is wrong with relating something to other aspects of the game. You started that… not me. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2020, 8:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/127 "2020-02-21T20:59:27Z")
> [@12evan](#): > > Called an opinion. You think something is not worth doing and say the value of an item is its value without taking into consideration price fluctuations. No that’s not what I wrote. I did not claim that you can’t speculate. I wrote, that the speculation over the price of the items you don’t sell is the same as investing on those items, and that therefore you should dissociate the value added by speculation, from the value of the farm. > [@12evan](#): > > Having something sitting in a cargo bay for however long is not an activity. Yes it is. If you keep them in order to wait for their price to raise, you are investing their value to have a benefit later, that is speculation. > [@12evan](#): > > Your opinion is they are not worth running because of no instant gratification in the ISK department. No. I literally stated the opposite. > [@12evan](#): > > Off topic. We are not talking about buying and reselling said items. How dare you relate this to a completely different activity than what we are discussing. Yes we are. If the investment in those items is not worth it, then there is no reason to not sell them. We are talking about that, because people claimed that the value of the event should take into account the expected rise of the items that are dropped. Please, learn to read. Don’t take terms out of the context, and don’t argue when you don’t understand the point. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 12:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/128 "2020-02-22T00:20:07Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > > because events sites have indeed been both ubiquitous and extrinsically lucrative. > > That last part is meaningless. > > If you mean that the items acquired in the site got value over time, and you did not invest heavily on them, then it means the investment on those items was not worth it, so that only the instant value could have been. No I mean lucrative right then and there, even with market saturation driving prices down. Like many events spawned enough sites and had fast enough completion times that I could average between 8 and 15 sites/hr *️⃣. Now multiply 8-15 sites an hour by an average site value of 15-30 mil *️⃣ (immediate sell value), and you can see how that adds up to a decent isk efficiency. Of course, I usually only sell stuff within the first day or two of an event, when prices are their highest, then consume, inject, save, or give away the rest. And yes, 8 to 15 sites an hour during previous events was an accurate estimate for me. I dual box, have really good skills, and like to fly HAC’s (which, depending on the fit, have excellent travel times, damage, and damage application). A dual web Deimos used to be my go to ship, now it’s a spider tanked, dual web Ikitursa. And for a specific example, Operation Conscious Interruption had the main loot drop ship spawn from get go, so you didn’t have kill anything else. He was also a cruiser that moved at MWD speeds, and who liked to pull range. All of this meant that, if you knew what you were doing, there was effectively zero chance for competitors or ninja looters to snake the loot drop. Anyway, I remember this event in particular, because I remember being proud of myself for striving for and hitting 15 sites in an hour. So finally, yes, event sites can be (and have been) ubiquitous and still lucrative. And, I’m really not trying to be a dick here, but if they weren’t for you, then perhaps you need to examine your fits and/or execution. *️⃣ -to the best of my recollection ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 12:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/129 "2020-02-22T00:58:43Z")
> [@Shipwreck\_Jones](#): > > And for a specific example, Operation Conscious Interruption had the main loot drop ship spawn from get go, so you didn’t have kill anything else. He was also a cruiser that moved at MWD speeds, That’s the drifter event. The loot from normal sites (cruiser boss) was garbage. There was signatures that you needed to probe, that contained a BS instead of the cruiser. It could occasionally escalate to a site, that had 3 BS and 3 times fleets, and also three times the loot. The sigs were easy to do solo (vindi or bhaalgorn, or mach as I did with grappler and MWD ; also needed point otherwise the drifter BS would warp off), the escalation was quite harder (could not do them solo, had to bring in an alt). I did a few cruiser sites, a few BS sites… and was making IIRC 3 times the value (per hour) in sigs. loots was the same in escalation, but much harder. And there was more sigs available than anoms. I only got 3 IIRC escalations though. ---
**Author:** ![Shipwreck\_Jones](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shipwreck_jones/32/274382_2.png) [@Shipwreck\_Jones](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shipwreck_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 1:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/130 "2020-02-22T01:01:29Z")
Well hot damn, I didn’t even know there were sigs you could scan for that event. Still, I brought it up to support my assertion that I could run up to 15 sites an hour. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2020, 1:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/131 "2020-02-22T01:02:26Z")
[there is even a wiki page](https://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Operation:_Conscious_Interruption#Operation:_Signal_Interruption_.28escalation.29) I think it was the BPC drops that were more the expensive version in BS. more detail [here](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/conscious-interruption-problem/73857/164) ---
**Author:** ![Echostriker\_Xandros](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/echostriker_xandros/32/423192_2.png) [@Echostriker\_Xandros](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Echostriker_Xandros)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 2:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/132 "2020-02-24T14:09:19Z")
The problem is that cruise is not going to hit the ships smaller than the cruisers very well. I tried out torpedoes and that took a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Adrian\_Vexier](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/adrian_vexier/32/352640_2.png) [@Adrian\_Vexier](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Adrian_Vexier)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/133 "2020-02-24T19:15:37Z")
The Gala event ended today, right? ---
**Author:** ![Anastasia\_Vemane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anastasia_vemane/32/152565_2.png) [@Anastasia\_Vemane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anastasia_Vemane)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2020, 10:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/134 "2020-02-24T22:03:33Z")
Yes, ended downtime today. Nice event, enjoyed it CCP. Thanks!!! ---
**Author:** ![Hauptmann103](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hauptmann103/32/478655_2.png) [@Hauptmann103](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hauptmann103)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2020, 7:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/135 "2020-02-25T07:02:35Z")
I enjoyed the event as well, and look forward to future ones. ---
**Author:** ![Roy\_ThunderRoad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/roy_thunderroad/32/245227_2.png) [@Roy\_ThunderRoad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Roy_ThunderRoad)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/136 "2020-02-26T11:36:08Z")
Enjoyed doing this one. Battleships were dusted off and used - been a long time since I used them - and was enjoyable doing so. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2020, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/guardians-gala-2020/219548/137 "2020-05-26T11:36:13Z")
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