# Gurista/Angel Standings Question **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 18, 2023, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gurista-angel-standings-question/424250 "2023-10-18T11:19:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![T\_ral\_Vsengne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_ral_vsengne/32/399361_2.png) [@T\_ral\_Vsengne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_ral_Vsengne)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gurista-angel-standings-question/424250/1 "2023-10-18T11:19:50Z")
In regards to the recent patch and standings with the Pirate factions. Does anyone know which we need to be in good standing with to join them when Havoc begins? Is the Faction or the Corp? And does anyone know what the minimum standings are that will be needed? ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gurista-angel-standings-question/424250/2 "2023-10-18T11:22:42Z")
I would assume like all other FW it would be 0.0 base to the faction. Luckily the epic arcs for them give a huge buff ---
**Author:** ![T\_ral\_Vsengne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_ral_vsengne/32/399361_2.png) [@T\_ral\_Vsengne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_ral_Vsengne)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gurista-angel-standings-question/424250/3 "2023-10-18T11:25:36Z")
If its the Faction though … big hole to dig myself out of … -3.8/-3.5 with either Faction and tbh have never done any missions/arcs ---
**Author:** ![Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/geo_eclipse_oksaras/32/500781_2.png) [@Geo\_Eclipse\_Oksaras](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Geo_Eclipse_Oksaras)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gurista-angel-standings-question/424250/4 "2023-10-18T11:29:24Z")
Thats not a huge hole when the arcs give a +30% boost. But you need to be 3.00 effective with one of the agents. If youd like, hop on the discord for USIA and we can see what we can do to help you out > **[Join the United Standings Improvement Agency Discord Server!](https://discord.com/invite/tBJmdmtvQq)** > > Check out the United Standings Improvement Agency community on Discord – hang out with 833 other members and enjoy free voice and text chat. ---
**Author:** ![T\_ral\_Vsengne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/t_ral_vsengne/32/399361_2.png) [@T\_ral\_Vsengne](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/T_ral_Vsengne)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gurista-angel-standings-question/424250/5 "2023-10-18T11:36:05Z")
Thanks … will join … though does seem pretty hopeless as am not 3.0 with any factiuon … not even 1.0 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2023, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gurista-angel-standings-question/424250/6 "2023-10-18T12:54:13Z")
> [@T\_ral\_Vsengne](#): > > If its the Faction though … big hole to dig myself out of … -3.8/-3.5 with either Faction and tbh have never done any missions/arcs I’ve gone from -9.86 to zero (base standings) faction from: epic arc, COSMOS, and a few storyline to top it off. The hardest part is the storyline to be honest. Boring. It’s not hard. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/gurista-angel-standings-question/424250/7 "2024-01-16T12:54:46Z")
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