# Harrassement while mining by a random bumper

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881>\
**Category:** Crime & Punishment\
**Created:** [July 19, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881 "2018-07-19T23:39:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/63 "2018-08-11T20:22:41Z")

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same causes, same effects.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/64 "2018-08-11T22:47:08Z")

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We are the most relevant thing happening in EVE. get over it

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 12:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/65 "2018-08-12T00:01:22Z")

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I’m… Not sure you read the post.  
Which is okay. Not like you’re required to.

But I didn’t actually talk about you.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 12:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/66 "2018-08-12T00:16:27Z")

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I just skimmed it and it seemed you are crying about the ever same ganking thread. Did you actually say something new and I should read it?

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**Author:** ![Clockwork\_Robot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/clockwork_robot/32/13535_2.png) [@Clockwork\_Robot](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Clockwork_Robot)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/67 "2018-08-12T00:17:36Z")

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Brosef, you do you.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/68 "2018-08-12T00:18:38Z")

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I interpret that as a no

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**Author:** ![Rin\_Vocaloid2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rin_vocaloid2/32/90543_2.png) [@Rin\_Vocaloid2](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rin_Vocaloid2)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/69 "2018-08-12T01:06:06Z")

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I see nothing toxic about the statement made by @Tipa_Riot  
Also, there is nothing in the bumping mechanic that falls within CCP Game’s definition of an exploit. In case you need a reference to go by, here is a link to their official terms of service.

[https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/terms-of-service-en/](https://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/terms-of-service-en/)

1. You may not exploit any bug in EVE Online to gain an unfair advantage over other players. You may not communicate the existence of any exploitable bug to others directly or through a public forum. Bugs should be reported through the bug reporting tool on our website.

Notice that they are referring to bugs. Bumping is not an exploit as it is not utilizing a bug in the game that would give anyone using it an unfair advantage. And as @Siimy_Dahma pointed out earlier, the bumping was easily negated by a common counter-bumping tactic known to many miners as manually flying around the bumper or orbiting a rock in tight circles.

Note: Orbiting around a rock at a relatively higher speed has a negative effect on the damage output of any suicide ganker’s guns since transverse velocity and optimal range have to be taken into account when ganking. A moving barge has a higher survival rate than a static barge because of this.

Since neither the bumping nor the counter-bumping methods utilize any bugs to work, neither one is an exploit and so both sides have a fair advantage over the other.

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**Author:** ![Dark\_Engraver](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dark_engraver/32/45178_2.png) [@Dark\_Engraver](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dark_Engraver)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/70 "2018-08-12T10:40:06Z")

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A very very very long time ago GMs would screw with you even for repeated bumping or local chat spam

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**Author:** ![Nico\_Boru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_boru/32/64941_2.png) [@Nico\_Boru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Boru)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/71 "2018-08-12T17:22:20Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> I’ll talk to a nice idiot over a smart asshole any day.

Then how will you get better and outsmart them?

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**Author:** ![Nico\_Boru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_boru/32/64941_2.png) [@Nico\_Boru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Boru)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/72 "2018-08-12T17:34:04Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> Instead of Eve being another “sandbox” with a limited shelf life, it could evolve into a new genre of “simulated universe” type games. I want that, I want more. Do you want less?

If youre looking for a space simulation youre in the wrong game. If you are looking for a society simulation where people are demi-gods and pretty much immortal, outnumber and over power the police forces, have limitless resources and people to help, can build empires that span hundreds of solar systems then youre in the right spot.

Git gud or leev.

And what ^ that means is make not nessisarily friends but allies to help you. Im not saying become the next goonswarm but join a group, build a group with a common goal. I know youve at least hear the enemy of my enemy saying. Its not just a cliché moral to an old childs story.

Eve is an MMO. Emphisis on MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER instead of online.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/73 "2018-08-12T18:25:25Z")

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Oh look more cycling back to the same tired regurgitated nonsense that keeps the game from growing or the discussion from evolving, shocker.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/74 "2018-08-12T18:52:46Z")

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Oh look more crying from a carebear who can’t handle a video game.

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**Author:** ![Mortlake](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mortlake/32/510240_2.png) [@Mortlake](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mortlake)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/75 "2018-08-12T18:58:52Z")

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Oh look. Caek.

![Funny-Cake-Meme-I-Regret-Nothing-Nothing-Image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/4/a422bc9bde3b9c0c00d2b6391aa4f0b6e76db056.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Nico\_Boru](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nico_boru/32/64941_2.png) [@Nico\_Boru](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nico_Boru)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2018, 7:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/76 "2018-08-12T19:29:23Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> Oh look more cycling back to the same tired regurgitated nonsense that keeps the game from growing or the discussion from evolving, shocker.

I require a more articulated rebuttle.

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**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/77 "2018-08-13T09:27:44Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> the same tired regurgitated nonsense that keeps the game from growing

In what way?  
If that “same tired regurgitated nonsense” keeps the game from growing, is it because

a) its what the majority wish  
b) it was how the game was designed and isits USP  
c) theres some conspiracy whereby all gankers are somehow RMTers who secretly puppet CCP from behind the scenes  
d) all of the above  
e) You have another suggestion?

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**Author:** ![Rin\_Vocaloid2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rin_vocaloid2/32/90543_2.png) [@Rin\_Vocaloid2](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rin_Vocaloid2)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/78 "2018-08-13T15:37:26Z")

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> [@Dark\_Engraver](#):
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> A very very very long time ago…

That must have been a very long time ago because I have been around since 2008. 😉

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**Author:** ![GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/garegin_nzhdeh/32/343579_2.png) [@GAREGIN\_NZHDEH](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/GAREGIN_NZHDEH)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/79 "2018-08-13T15:58:24Z")

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Wait, you couldn’t get away in a venture… didn’t you fit a microwarp or even an afterburner, annoying yes, stupid people yes, they do it so people will post this up and they feel ejaculated.

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**Author:** ![Andresoni\_Janau](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/andresoni_janau/32/240452_2.png) [@Andresoni\_Janau](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Andresoni_Janau)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/80 "2018-08-24T01:06:09Z")

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lol, so mob mentality is really the height of your intellect, no wonder you people can’t comprehend anything but combat. Again, you keep repeating the same tired trash, and guess what? That same tired trash isn’t making the game grow. I’m suggesting something different, you’re suggesting things stay the same. To change is to grow, and games and people must grow or die. The game can’t grow while it caters to the every whim of a few sad bullies.

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**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 4:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/81 "2018-08-24T04:17:24Z")

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> [@Andresoni\_Janau](#):
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> you people can’t comprehend anything but combat

Antimatter is the ultimate argument.

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**Author:** ![Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/noragen_neirfallas/32/375148_2.png) [@Noragen\_Neirfallas](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Noragen_Neirfallas)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 8:53am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/harrassement-while-mining-by-a-random-bumper/90881/82 "2018-08-24T08:53:40Z")

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D. All of the above. Lock it in Eddie

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