# Has anyone else here had completely toxic experiences with /r/eve? BFR is fake there **URL:** \ **Category:** Out Of Pod Experience\ **Created:** [April 16, 2020, 1:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095 "2020-04-16T01:40:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/65 "2020-04-16T16:03:32Z")
Exactly the sort of response I expected. đź‘Ź ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/66 "2020-04-16T16:04:21Z")
> [@Sen\_Isu](#): > > Exactly the sort of response I expected. You’re welcome. ---
**Author:** ![Zuccini\_Vaselini](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Zuccini\_Vaselini](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zuccini_Vaselini)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/67 "2020-04-16T16:06:35Z")
Well as i said, it’s like a nazi bar - funny how my comment got reported to proove the point. You speak up - you get shut down. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/68 "2020-04-16T16:09:11Z")
> [@Sen\_Isu](#): > > CCP favouring the subreddit - where they have no moderation power - while ignoring their official forums where they do - legitimizes the beliefs and values the moderators run the subreddit by. Now you had a few minutes to think it over. Are you ready to retrack your retarded statement? ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/69 "2020-04-16T16:15:57Z")
> [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](#): > > Are you ready to retrack your retarded statement? I bet typing stuff like that gives you a boner. ---
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/70 "2020-04-16T16:33:34Z")
A confused and ironic one, I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/71 "2020-04-16T16:40:37Z")
Yes, autism is real. Yes, some people can have a form of it and still communicate effectively. Part of your issue is because your communications don’t come across as from someone that meets their expectation of autism. No, you shouldn’t go off on an SJW rant claiming organized discrimination and hate speech support because some randos on the Internet didn’t treat your claims with the respect you felt they should. If you’re that sensitive, neither EVE nor 98% of the internet are going to be welcoming places for you. Demanding other people adjust _their_ behaviour to cope with your standards just isn’t going to fly. Learn a better way to deal with it, or live with the frustration. ---
**Author:** ![Foggy\_Bernstein](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/foggy_bernstein/32/407887_2.png) [@Foggy\_Bernstein](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Foggy_Bernstein)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/72 "2020-04-16T16:47:43Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Demanding other people adjust _their_ behaviour to cope with your standards. You’ve just described every single person that has ever posted in this forum. Including yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/74 "2020-04-16T16:57:45Z")
> **[r/help - Do moderators need a reason too ban you?](https://www.reddit.com/r/help/comments/fy11ma/do_moderators_need_a_reason_too_ban_you/)** > > 191 votes and 72 comments so far on Reddit Few more reasons why u wouldnt want to have reddit account. ---
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/75 "2020-04-16T16:59:24Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > No, you shouldn’t go off on an SJW rant claiming organized discrimination and hate speech support because some randos on the Internet didn’t treat your claims with the respect you felt they should. These aren’t “randos”, they’re the moderators of the subreddit, hence the topic of discussion OP’s claims aren’t really saying CCP explicitly supports it - but as I said, by favouring the subreddit so much, without being able to enforce a code of conduct themselves, implicitly legitimizes the behaviour and values that the moderators run their subreddit on; not as an official CCP stance, but just as something you have to live with to participate in the community that CCP favours. But in my opinion, that entire argument is fairly pedantic and irrelevant. > [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > If you’re that sensitive, neither EVE nor 98% of the internet are going to be welcoming places for you. Demanding other people adjust _their_ behaviour to cope with your standards just isn’t going to fly. Learn a better way to deal with it, or live with the frustration. This comment, and this thread in general should clearly highlight the actual issue here: being a shitty person, whether a regular user or a moderator, is simply accepted, and the response is “This is the internet. Ignore it.” The only people who ignore their problems are children and cowards. We don’t have to just accept this crap in the community, we don’t have to “just ignore” these people - these people should be called out and not accepted in the community. inb4 some ■■■■■■■■ about us wanting to silence people who disagree with us. Boo hoo. Grow up. This isn’t a slight disagreement which people should actually just live with (Coke or Pepsi?), it’s a toxic mentality that should be confronted and looked down on in the communities we care about. ---
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/76 "2020-04-16T16:59:56Z")
I actually do have a reddit account. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/77 "2020-04-16T17:00:09Z")
I feel for you, friend. Starting to use the internet can indeed be rough. ---
**Author:** ![Sen\_Isu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sen_isu/32/388091_2.png) [@Sen\_Isu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sen_Isu)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:01pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/78 "2020-04-16T17:01:24Z")
Funny, because I actually used to have that attitude of “Just ignore them.” Then I grew up. ---
**Author:** ![Xuxe\_Xu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xuxe_xu/32/464660_2.png) [@Xuxe\_Xu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xuxe_Xu)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/79 "2020-04-16T17:03:27Z")
Evidence suggests otherwise, slick. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/80 "2020-04-16T17:03:41Z")
One thing reddit mods have to be aware of, power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/81 "2020-04-16T17:32:47Z")
> [@Sen\_Isu](#): > > A confused and ironic one, I’d say. Apparently you haven’t retracted your retardiness. From now on you are hold accountable for all shitposts made on these forums. Not because you wrote said posts but by posting here you legitimize the beliefs and values of all shitposters here. ---
**Author:** ![Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mevatla_vekraspek/32/377519_2.png) [@Mevatla\_Vekraspek](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mevatla_Vekraspek)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/82 "2020-04-16T18:10:43Z")
> [@Sen\_Isu](#): > > Then I grew up. And now you rant against random faceless people on the internet… You want to educate them? Do you have kids? ---
**Author:** ![Kezrai\_Charzai](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/kezrai_charzai/32/394578_2.png) [@Kezrai\_Charzai](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Kezrai_Charzai)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/83 "2020-04-16T18:11:11Z")
> [@Sen\_Isu](#): > > it’s a toxic mentality that should be confronted and looked down on in the communities we care about. Not that I’m a fan of tolerating rude or inconsiderate behaviour, but I do choose my battles where I can have an impact. You’re welcome to go and try to police the Internet. Or start a social movement to improve manners and consideration for others while posting anonymously. Me, I go with the Serenity prayer approach (without the religious overtones). Saves wear and tear all 'round. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/84 "2020-04-16T18:28:02Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > You’re welcome to go and try to police the Internet. First, remove anonymity. For everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlet\_Starfire](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/scarlet_starfire/32/244125_2.png) [@Scarlet\_Starfire](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Scarlet_Starfire)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2020, 6:59pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095/85 "2020-04-16T18:59:29Z")
> [@Kezrai\_Charzai](#): > > Learn a better way to deal with it, or live with the frustration. Usually it’s just live with the frustration. To the op grab a beer and just be resigned to the fact that most people won’t really understand you. I also understand why you don’t like voice software, I don’t use it either for two reasons, one small talk bores me ( like what someone had for breakfast) and 2 sometimes people take things the wrong way leading to potential conflict. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095.md?page=3) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-anyone-else-here-had-completely-toxic-experiences-with-r-eve-bfr-is-fake-there/233095.md?page=5)