# Has low sec turned into multibox heaven? **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Tags:** low-sec, pvp\ **Created:** [June 6, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508 "2024-06-06T12:08:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/22 "2024-06-07T13:27:42Z")
When you add your toons to zkillboard… ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/23 "2024-06-07T13:28:45Z")
Like PS5 and its 8K compatible video. That kind of logic, my raspberry PI can do 8K too. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/24 "2024-06-07T13:30:42Z")
As far as I know it is per character so zkill doesn’t know what other characters on the same account are let alone could track what other accounts you have on the same e-mail address. Only CCP has access to such details not even sure you can do the latter (e-mail) through ESI. ---
**Author:** ![Eloken\_Toralen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/eloken_toralen/32/401714_2.png) [@Eloken\_Toralen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Eloken_Toralen)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/25 "2024-06-07T13:31:58Z")
Naw, ESI has not idea if two characters are the same ‘person’ as far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/uriel_the_flame/32/490165_2.png) [@Uriel\_the\_Flame](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Uriel_the_Flame)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/26 "2024-06-07T13:32:21Z")
Yes that was what I was saying as well. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:16am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/27 "2024-06-08T11:16:36Z")
Is it solo if I light a Cyno, Jump in kill and cyno out? 😜 ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:17am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/28 "2024-06-08T11:17:38Z")
No, its not even pvp at that point its farming aka pve, since the guy your cynoing on has no counter play or time to react. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/29 "2024-06-08T11:20:11Z")
But IS IT SOLO? 🤓 ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/30 "2024-06-08T11:22:00Z")
Depends if its all alts then it is solo person but not solo char. So both yes and no. But it is definitely solo braincell as it takes no skill to cyno on people and its broken game play mechanics with no counterplay. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/31 "2024-06-08T11:26:18Z")
You know why I cyno people? Cause they always run from a fight. ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/32 "2024-06-08T11:30:32Z")
Its a nasty cycle people fight at first but then get blobbed instantly so they adapt to the situation and run first observe to see if the fight is engagable then come back, many times I try to tackle someone they run because they think I have a gank behind me then come back to fight me once they have time to check my billboard and know for sure I’m solo. There would be nothing wrong with cynoing on people if the cyno needed time to spool and you had to hold your own on the other side for a few minutes first giving the person you jumped on a good fight first. But every single damn time I try fight an arazu I get 10 guys on my head within 10 seconds there is 0 chance to do anything else but try to escape, its just bad game design. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/33 "2024-06-08T11:31:44Z")
tbh Noone flys an Arazu, Pilgrim etc solo ^^ I’ve recently been Mining Barge Pvping, funny how people jump on it right way xD ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/34 "2024-06-08T11:32:35Z")
I’ve actually looked at solo arazu scram kiting trying to make a build for it. ---
**Author:** ![Alice\_Saki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alice_saki/32/486142_2.png) [@Alice\_Saki](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alice_Saki)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:35am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/35 "2024-06-08T11:35:32Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > There would be nothing wrong with cynoing on people if the cyno needed time to spool and you had to hold your own on the other side for a few minutes first giving the person you jumped on a good fight first. As long as you don’t have to be 0ms for Cyno or the target would just fly into the sunset xD ---
**Author:** ![ResonanceOfWar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/resonanceofwar/32/408654_2.png) [@ResonanceOfWar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/ResonanceOfWar)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/36 "2024-06-08T11:36:27Z")
If they changed it then the cyno ship would have to be able to be mobile while cynoing to compensate, without warping ofc. ---
**Author:** ![Syzygium](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syzygium/32/510263_2.png) [@Syzygium](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syzygium)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/37 "2024-06-08T13:06:01Z")
> [@Alice\_Saki](#): > > As long as you don’t have to be 0ms for Cyno or the target would just fly into the sunset xD Then bring hard-tackle. Scram+Dualweb for example, target goes nowhere quickly. The problem is that the Cyno-Mechanic was okayish balanced a decade ago, when a system-change did take 30-45 seconds under the old Jump-Animation. When the cyno was dropped, the other side had almost a minute of reaction time before the reinforcements actually had locked them and could shoot. This was good, because it left options to disengage, reposition/pull range, overheat on the cynoship, bring in own reinforcements etc.. Today its just an instakill tool because when the cyno goes up, 5 seconds later whatver was waiting is trough. From BOs to T3Cs to Bombers, you can’t even hope to fight back because they will only jump if they know they will kill you easily. And as long as CCP doesn’t acknowledge that the performance-increase of the client/machines have totally broken the cyno-balance over the years and add spool-up timers and jump-delays to compensate for it (It’s not a NERF, its a re-establishment of the original engagement mechanics!), nothing will change for Lowsec, it will remain a barren wasteland, shared by some powercreeping blobbercorps hunting for the occasional victim who was stupid enough to get tackled. Nothing to see here, move along, waste of space. ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/38 "2024-06-08T13:58:31Z")
Totally this, excellent post. ---
**Author:** ![Shiny\_Garemoko](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/shiny_garemoko/32/440221_2.png) [@Shiny\_Garemoko](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Shiny_Garemoko)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/39 "2024-06-11T03:25:06Z")
do multiboxer kills count? or would the assumption be ‘yeah no that kill doesn’t count cause that loser had to make 4 accounts since he has no friends’? ---
**Author:** ![Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/alexander_minto_hughes/32/511046_2.png) [@Alexander\_Minto\_Hughes](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Alexander_Minto_Hughes)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/40 "2024-06-11T06:02:05Z")
I do the odd solo pvp here n there. I try to cherry pick my targets… Sometimes it back fires other times i get a epic kill… One paladin down the other three maybe oneday. ---
**Author:** ![Io\_Koval](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/io_koval/32/282426_2.png) [@Io\_Koval](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Io_Koval)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2024, 7:04am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508/41 "2024-06-11T07:04:59Z")
> [@ResonanceOfWar](#): > > I feel like low sec has been changing over the last 4-5 year’s, you used to be able to do a lot solo. It’s not just you. Uprising and Havoc expansions killed off a lot of the FW solo (as in killboard solo) folks. The regulars I bumped into are long gone. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/has-low-sec-turned-into-multibox-heaven/451508.md?page=3)