# Hauling and invasions **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [May 30, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976 "2019-05-30T03:34:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/22 "2019-06-06T04:11:43Z")
Alt(s)/Friend(s) to decoy NPCs while you go on your way. ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 4:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/23 "2019-06-06T04:40:01Z")
> [@Kijiji](#): > > I’ll look into ships that can MWD/cloak. I have a lot of volume to move, so maybe an Orca? > [@Tirin\_Turambar](#): > > I went through 4 systems in my Orca. On one gate if i didnt have mwd to Insta warp i would of been toast. > [@Mina\_Sebiestar](#): > > **For now** rats on gate dont scram. Useful thread as I was wondering about bringing in an orca to mine. Orca’s cannot do MWD/cloak but they can use MWD to spool up in 12(?) secs. It is good to have it confirmed they can still tank a gate in that time but I’m thinking it might be (too) risky during mining? The thing about scram is a bit more uncertain. Early noise is that the only Trigs that scram are named “anchoring” or similar. At first these were definitely only in foothold systems but may have moved now to periphery systems. That aside, I haven’t seen anything to indicate why they **couldn’t** appear on a gate. So, if you cant avoid a foothold system, then maybe orca is not a good idea, and a freighter even less so? ---
**Author:** ![Tirin\_Turambar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tirin_turambar/32/142893_2.png) [@Tirin\_Turambar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tirin_Turambar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 4:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/24 "2019-06-06T04:47:09Z")
> [@Lily\_Inkura](#): > > Orca’s cannot do MWD/cloak but they can use MWD to spool up in 12(?) secs. The reason mwd saved me in my case, was by flipping mwd on/off to reach velocity threshold to engage insta warp when it cuts off. I might of been able to run from them sure, however my chances in that blimp of a ship…not good. And the web helped too, its been awhile, not sure if you can do that on yourself without getting concorded or suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Stalter\_Arjar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalter_arjar/32/411988_2.png) [@Stalter\_Arjar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalter_Arjar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/25 "2019-06-06T12:11:10Z")
I’d assumed this was just a few weeks event, is this a permanent feature??? ---
**Author:** ![Ellison\_Onizuka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ellison_onizuka/32/314780_2.png) [@Ellison\_Onizuka](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ellison_Onizuka)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 1:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/26 "2019-06-06T13:47:02Z")
My question is how long do the invasions last in a system? I think that Piak has had an invasion there for the last three days? ---
**Author:** ![Chan\_aar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/chan_aar/32/377560_2.png) [@Chan\_aar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Chan_aar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/27 "2019-06-06T17:02:16Z")
Yup. Well at least as far as we know. ---
**Author:** ![Stalter\_Arjar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/stalter_arjar/32/411988_2.png) [@Stalter\_Arjar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Stalter_Arjar)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 6:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/28 "2019-06-06T18:22:10Z")
Urghh , FFS, alpha hauling into hubs is hard enuff as it is. ---
**Author:** ![Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/runa_yamaguchi/32/197532_2.png) [@Runa\_Yamaguchi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Runa_Yamaguchi)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/29 "2019-06-06T23:48:13Z")
> [@Stalter\_Arjar](#): > > alpha hauling into hubs Why? Made we can help with that… ---
**Author:** ![Lily\_Inkura](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/lily_inkura/32/174143_2.png) [@Lily\_Inkura](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Lily_Inkura)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 12:08am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/30 "2019-06-07T00:08:22Z")
> [@Ellison\_Onizuka](#): > > My question is how long do the invasions last in a system? I think that Piak has had an invasion there for the last three days? We don’t know. I “assume” it is player related. So, as long as the minor conduits are triggered and then closed by players the invasion eventually stops. However, CCP info is that invasions which are left alone and never attacked will also eventually fade. Whether that is the same time frame (whatever that is) I don’t know. So, it may be possible for invasions to be longer or shorter based on how many players attack them in a given (foothold?) system? ---
**Author:** ![Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/herzog_wolfhammer/32/452132_2.png) [@Herzog\_Wolfhammer](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Herzog_Wolfhammer)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/31 "2019-06-07T02:58:17Z")
Looks like the only way to win is not to log on ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/4/1/41ec4921cbaca7a6f9ea556e7cc20018461eae5e.png) [@system](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hauling-and-invasions/162976/32 "2019-09-05T02:58:18Z")
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