# Have you seen Salvos, or Teckos?

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [June 13, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450 "2018-06-13T09:06:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:52am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/291 "2018-06-15T10:52:32Z")

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criminal code:

3 Subsection 318(4) of the Criminal Code is replaced by the following:  
Definition of identifiable group  
(4) In this section, identifiable group means any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, national or ethnic origin, age, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or mental or physical disability.  
1995, c. 22, s. 6  
4 Subparagraph 718.‍2(a)‍(i) of the Act is replaced by the following:  
(i) evidence that the offence was motivated by bias, prejudice or hate based on race, national or ethnic origin, language, colour, religion, sex, age, mental or physical disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity or expression, or on any other similar factor,

so it would fall under the “sex” I believe. It is just part of criminal code I don’t know what penalties are for those, but I need a Canadian to spoke about it to be sure.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:54am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/292 "2018-06-15T10:54:25Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> It says nowhere, that you get penalized for not agreeing with pronouns or for your thoughts at all.

So you don’t think that having it defined in the criminal code is relevant at all to there being penalization? Oh my…

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/293 "2018-06-15T10:55:18Z")

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> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#):
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> 3 Subsection 318(4) of the Criminal Code is replaced by the following:

That’s Canadas legislation against advocating for genocide.

> **[Criminal Code](https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-318.html)**
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> Federal laws of Canada

So basically it means that now you may also not advocate genocide based on gender expression.  
Sorry.

> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> So you don’t think that having it defined in the criminal code is relevant at all to there being penalization? Oh my…

Well it took me 30 seconds to check the law and I’m not even from Canada: it’s legislation against advocating for genocide. What’s the problem? Do you feel deprived of your rights to call for mass murder of people based on how they see themselves?

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/294 "2018-06-15T10:55:45Z")

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oh they will correct you. All this because some group of society don’t feel well under the current language standards.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/295 "2018-06-15T10:55:51Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> Capitalism used to be a good step 200 years ago, but now it is time for something more reasonable.

Capitalism is not a good idea or a good thing. It is a naturally occurring process which works from the bottom up. What we have to do is to understand an regulate it so that it can be harnessed to increase wealth and prosperity. I agree that we are not there yet but it’s also not as catastrophic as some people make it look like.

The problem with all those top down planed alternatives is that they just dont work and human history is full of horrible suffering because of communistic systems which all end in totalitarianism.

@Dracvlad did you just like my posts? Was that an accident?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/296 "2018-06-15T10:57:26Z")

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It is because I actually agree with what you wrote.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/297 "2018-06-15T10:58:01Z")

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There is a first time for everything I guess. A truly magical thread @Solstice_Projekt

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/298 "2018-06-15T11:00:55Z")

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Who with common sense do that anyway? People do not born evil they become one, and that kind of law will make more evil ones. You can’t change human approach to minorities by making stupid laws. Forcing respect? Did that ever go well?

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/299 "2018-06-15T11:01:53Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> Well it took me 30 seconds to check the law and I’m not even from Canada: it’s legislation against advocating for genocide. What’s the problem? Do you feel deprived of your rights to call for mass murder of people based on how they see themselves?

I don’t recall ever calling for genocide of anyone, please point out where I have and come back to me.

The issue is that if you use the wrong word and I think there are now about 40 such words for gender you can be criminally prosecuted for hate speech for that. So I have no idea where you connect genocide to that.

In the UK at this point you can be persecuted for hate speech if the police feel that it is hate speech even if the people who were affected by it did not think it was.

I am a white middle aged male, perhaps I ought to go kill myself now for the benefit of all others…, would that make you happy, but I was trying to explain to you how the law works because you appear to have no idea.

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**Author:** ![zluq\_zabaa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zluq_zabaa/32/19011_2.png) [@zluq\_zabaa](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/zluq_zabaa)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/300 "2018-06-15T11:03:54Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> Capitalism is not a good idea or a good thing. It is a naturally occurring process which works from the bottom up.

Nope. Capitalism started with what historians call the initial accumulation, which was basically to rob, murder, burn down and destroy any small scale competition. In some places of the world you still have that, mostly when there are remnants of feudal economy.

Capitalism happened bacause of several favourable factors, which created a class relatively rich people who didn’t have the political power despite becoming economically stronger and stronger. Over the course of about 100 years they grabbed the political power, expropriated the masses of the little they had and forced them to be slaves for the wage.

Since then we’ve gotten a lot of polish on that, a few attempts to overthrow this fked up system led to more democracy, pre-descants of communists abolished child-labour and such.

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**Author:** ![Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/avaelica_kuershin/32/478139_2.png) [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Avaelica_Kuershin)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/301 "2018-06-15T11:05:22Z")

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> [@Dracvlad](#):
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> I am a white middle aged male, perhaps I ought to go kill myself now for the benefit of all others…

Oh, stop with the drama already.

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/302 "2018-06-15T11:05:31Z")

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> [@Ima\_Wreckyou](#):
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> The problem with all those top down planed alternatives is that they just dont work and human history is full of horrible suffering because of communistic systems which all end in totalitarianism.

Capitalist systems all end the same, for the same reason. The only difference being that it isn’t the government oppressing you, but the corporations.

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**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/303 "2018-06-15T11:06:31Z")

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> [@Avaelica\_Kuershin](#):
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> Oh, stop with the drama already.

That was a joke, not a very good one, perhaps you can use hate speach against me for it, this is also a joke!

And I am out of here, and @Ima_Wreckyou you are talking total sense about capitalism.

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**Author:** ![Rosov\_Aulmais](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosov_aulmais/32/168511_2.png) [@Rosov\_Aulmais](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosov_Aulmais)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:06am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/304 "2018-06-15T11:06:38Z")

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I am really astonished about how this thread goes. Maybe the ISDs haven’t finished their popcorns yet?

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**Author:** ![Rosov\_Aulmais](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosov_aulmais/32/168511_2.png) [@Rosov\_Aulmais](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosov_Aulmais)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/305 "2018-06-15T11:09:31Z")

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Anyway, it looks like this forum is much more about metatalking than reddit and tieba.

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**Author:** ![Jeremiah\_Saken](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/jeremiah_saken/32/266740_2.png) [@Jeremiah\_Saken](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jeremiah_Saken)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/306 "2018-06-15T11:09:47Z")

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panem et circenses  
Control of the crowds.

Question is where is Teckos?

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**Author:** ![The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/the_dunning_kruger/32/414724_2.png) [@The\_Dunning\_Kruger](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/The_Dunning_Kruger)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/307 "2018-06-15T11:11:15Z")

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> [@Jeremiah\_Saken](#):
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> Question is where is Teckos?

My money is on either vacation, or he’s fed up with the illiteracy of the common forum poster these days.

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**Author:** ![Ima\_Wreckyou](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ima_wreckyou/32/235531_2.png) [@Ima\_Wreckyou](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ima_Wreckyou)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:11am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/308 "2018-06-15T11:11:18Z")

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> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> Nope. Capitalism started with what historians call the initial accumulation, which was basically to rob, murder, burn down and destroy any small scale competition. In some places of the world you still have that, mostly when there are remnants of feudal economy.

No seriously, where to you get that from. This is complete rubbish. We are clearly not talking about the same thing. At this point I think we are probably not even living on the same planet.

When I say capitalism then I mean a system of private property and voluntary exchange as it naturally occurs in every society.

> [@zluq\_zabaa](#):
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> Capitalism happened bacause of several favourable factors, which created a class relatively rich people who didn’t have the political power despite becoming economically stronger and stronger. Over the course of about 100 years they grabbed the political power, expropriated the masses of the little they had and forced them to be slaves for the wage.

No, you equate capitalism which is a simple process with an establishment. That is absolutely not the same.

You are fighting windmills

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**Author:** ![Rosov\_Aulmais](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rosov_aulmais/32/168511_2.png) [@Rosov\_Aulmais](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rosov_Aulmais)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:12am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/309 "2018-06-15T11:12:05Z")

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Just tons of people stopped posting for whatever reason. I once thought Dryson was gone too(not really but no longer posting about code imo).

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**Author:** ![Salvos\_Rhoska](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salvos_rhoska/32/14128_2.png) [@Salvos\_Rhoska](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salvos_Rhoska)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:13am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/have-you-seen-salvos-or-teckos/82450/310 "2018-06-15T11:13:06Z")

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This is my fifth post.  
Ive been away for two weeks.  
Its pretty clear that “salvoshing” is ■■■■■■■■, and just used as a cover by others whilst blaming me as the scapegoat.

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