# Heralding the Announcement of a "No Limits" Friendship **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [April 1, 2023, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990 "2023-04-01T11:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 12:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/22 "2023-04-15T12:29:57Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Neither **Senpai’s Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club** nor **Safety.** recognizes **New Eden Police Force** as a legitimate institution, and will not submit to any of Thats ok, we reognize both organisations as illegal entities within high sec, so all should be hunky dory ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 5:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/23 "2023-04-15T17:50:19Z")
Well that’s the thing, ain’t it? You can recognize a chicken as a cat for all anyone cares. Bearing neither diplomatic legitimacy nor the ability to assert your will via military means, your words carry about as much weight as those of a public bus-riding hobo yelling something about government mind-control nanobots living under his skin. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 6:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/24 "2023-04-15T18:55:56Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Why would you use a big fat 2.5 second align Battlecruiser when you could use an even fatter insta warping webbed freighter? That big fat 2.5 second align time battlecruiser has moved over 2bn worth of implants from Jita without being ganked. And I don’t lose 2bn worth of ship if it is 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/25 "2023-04-15T18:57:09Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > A combat vessel would’ve been taken out of commission without the benefit of being provided a diplomatic, administrative alternative option. Meh…you have to catch me first. Good luck. Cilla Cybin is my account I use for hauling implants, clone tags, etc. My big fat 2.5 second align time ship can cloak too, and I have alts for bait and switch, etc, etc…and am quite happy to just have a relay chain moving stuff one system at a time. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:10pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/26 "2023-04-15T19:10:51Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > And I don’t lose 2bn worth of ship if it is Well if you just moving implants in high sec, just use an ungankable ( sub 1 sec align) insta warp hecate. Not even destiny could catch one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/27 "2023-04-15T19:13:54Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Meh…you have to catch me first. Good luck. Cilla Cybin is my account I use for hauling implants, clone tags, etc. My big fat 2.5 second align time ship can cloak too, and I have alts for bait and switch, etc, etc…and am quite happy to just have a relay chain moving stuff one system at a time. Since you aren’t a Pandemic Horde insurgent, I have no particular interest in your activities. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/28 "2023-04-15T19:15:30Z")
No, I have good reasons for using the Gnosis. Hecate has half the capacity…and there are times when i want to carry a shuttle with me for the return trip and leave the Gnosis in place, so the Gnosis fits same cargo as Hecate _plus_ a shuttle. The system I use works very well for me. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/29 "2023-04-15T19:19:12Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I have good reasons for using the Gnosis The cloak/mwd exploit as destiny calls it leaves you vulnerable for about 10 seconds, Are you saying that you can warp in under 2.5 seconds using the exploit? ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/30 "2023-04-15T19:22:40Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/3/b/93ba563e906742694e71ee5e9d923cea217fa3f6.png) The SoE ships are absolutely nasty with regard to align time. It’s like CCP made a “freebie” for carebears to use to transport stuff in empire space without any skill involved. It’s not sub-2s, so something with 3,000 scan resolution would probably still tackle it, but really these things are nearly immune to being intercepted in empire space. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/31 "2023-04-15T19:23:50Z")
No…it doesn’t leave me vulnerable. Align…( while still under the gate cloaking…which very briefly decloaks me )…immediately cloak ( with improved cloaking device )…MWD…then when I switch off cloak I warp immediately. I’d only be vulnerable if there was stuff placed within 2km that prevented cloaking. But even then, the 2.5 second align time helps. Plus, few people ever scan Gnosis for cargo. According to Eve University I am invulnerable from attack the minute I hit cloak…even if the cloak animation has not completed yet. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/32 "2023-04-15T19:28:24Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Align…( while still under the gate cloaking ) Align will take you 2.5 seconds from standstill if you don’t activate the cloak. How many seconds do you keep[ the cloak on before you take it of and insta warp? By the way , if you can’t cloak , an insta locker will get you. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/33 "2023-04-15T19:30:37Z")
I hit align and cloak pretty much at the same time. The ship cloaks while still aligning. Eve University says I am invulnerable the minute cloak is hit. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/34 "2023-04-15T19:32:20Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > I am invulnerable the minute cloak is hit The thing is, if like an orca or DST, it takes almost 10 seconds under cloak to reach insta warp velocity. If your ship does too, it can be decloaked and killed. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/35 "2023-04-15T19:34:42Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > The thing is, if like an orca or DST, it takes almost 10 seconds under cloak to reach insta warp velocity. If your ship does too, it can be decloaked and killed. I could possibly be uncloaked…but whoever is doing so would have to be quick. In my experience I go through the gate and am gone…all in seconds. I always use cloak/mwd when passing through Sivala/Eudama for example. Plus I have 85K EHP if the worst comes to the worst. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/36 "2023-04-15T19:37:09Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > all in seconds. Sounds like you are lucky. A good camp will decloak and insta lock you. Why not paint your ship in the Pandemic Horde colors and try to sneak past destiny? ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/37 "2023-04-15T19:44:45Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Sounds like you are lucky. Certainly…but Eve is a place where one can improve one’s luck, and that plays a part. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 7:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/38 "2023-04-15T19:55:24Z")
> [@Altara\_Zemara](#): > > Eve is a place where one can improve one’s luck Was in my proteus, came into a system, screen red, huge camp. Had a blonde moment, forgot to engage cloak before warping, but nobody noticed me. You could say I was lucky, but then it was kind of insulting being ignored aswell. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 8:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/39 "2023-04-15T20:21:16Z")
> [@Zaera\_Keena](#): > > Why not paint your ship in the Pandemic Horde colors and try to sneak past destiny? My Cilla Cybin character is not in a wardec corp precisely for that reason. She’d have to gank me. Only Altara and my ganker alt are in wardecable corps…though in fact both those accounts use the fast align Gnosis too, for things like getting new ammo, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2023, 10:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/40 "2023-04-15T22:37:13Z")
Okay Cilly, as riveting as your tales about hauling implants in a fast-align Gnosis are, they’re starting to get a bit _stale_ because it’s like literally the only thing you’ve been talking about for the past six months. So, we’re gonna need you to go out and create a new story for us. Something _fresh_ and _exciting._ We’ll give you an _entire week_ to do something interesting and awe-inspiring, okay? Otherwise we’re gonna have to take you out back and put you out of your misery like a gimped horse. Sorry pal, them’s the rules. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/a/4/d/a4d475b9cb1a8a66380a432a5dec927e4a4e556e.jpeg "Family Guy - Horse Shoots Farmers Leg") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9bYnBb42oY) ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/41 "2023-04-16T10:39:23Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > as riveting as your tales about hauling implants in a fast-align Gnosis are I was just giving people a break from your riveting tales of being a camp follower in other people’s wars. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > We’ll give you an _entire week_ to do something interesting and awe-inspiring, okay? You mean like taking part in the biggest highsec war ever ? And getting twice the ‘total ISK destroyed’ in 1 year that you have in 16 and on average twice as many kill mails per year ? [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990.md?page=3)