# Heralding the Announcement of a "No Limits" Friendship **URL:** \ **Category:** Crime & Punishment\ **Created:** [April 1, 2023, 11:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990 "2023-04-01T11:19:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 9:17pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/83 "2023-04-18T21:17:45Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > I don’t know, that’s why I’m asking. Test. Test. Test … ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/b/b/f/bbfd5103529f795e18d57b1f9f7f1a5b98276b4b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/84 "2023-04-18T21:44:46Z")
Test is mostly dead and nowhere near me anyway, so it doesn’t really work. ---
**Author:** ![Githany\_Red](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/githany_red/32/378551_2.png) [@Githany\_Red](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Githany_Red)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2023, 7:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/85 "2023-04-19T07:47:14Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Like I said, I get it. Pretending to play by a set of self-imposed rules (a “code,” if you will) that _don’t actually exist_ is massively entertaining. It’s a hilarious salt-farming angle for sure, pretty much on the same level as the ruse of taking protection money from someone Don’t we all do this, we do, safety do, and I’m sure we could find yours too. > [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > Personally, if I were calling the shots in the dev house, I would just straight-up _delete_ the TTT, and give every big wig involved at the top a year’s ban from the game. And fire a couple of the GMs. But that’s just me. Love this and no its not just you, it would be nice to see the money trail, as for targets make a list of areas of the game that bug you and see who is taking part, that might work ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 6:01am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/86 "2023-04-20T06:01:38Z")
# _ASOBU_ Launches Special Military Operation Against _The Initiative._ ## Forces Massed Along Western Border ZINKON, April 20 - In a series of surprise overnight maneuvers, **Senpai’s Afterschool Anime and Gaming Club (ASOBU)** has deployed significant naval elements along the southwestern flank of the high-security cluster. The region has been experiencing ever-increasing tensions as **The Initiative.** continues to route freighter traffic through its primary market hub of Amarr, a policy that **ASOBU** has consistently disputed as illegal due to noncompliance with local **Safety.** permit regulations long considered to be a pinnacle of trade stability in the region. These tensions have only been exacerbated by **The Initiative.'s** long-standing support of **Goonswarm Federation,** a faction historically considered by **ASOBU** to be an illegitimate regional puppet regime belonging to **C C P Alliance.** Though expected, this shift in focus is unprecedented for **ASOBU,** having just come off from a protracted campaign against **Pandemic Horde,** a faction itself involved in open warfare against **The Initiative.** as part of the ongoing greater conflict spanning the majority of lawless null-security space. Sources indicate that **ASOBU** has moved the bulk of its naval assets from the Esescama-Sasta corridor (where **Safety.** agents are expected to oversee all security-related matters in the interim) toward the west, and is supplementing these assets with the deployment of additional—and allegedly experimental—military hardware, including a highly-modified Moa cruiser estimated in value at over one billion ISK, a price tag usually associated with much larger battleships employing advanced Morphite-augmented technology. As of press time, evacuations are underway in the Khanid and Kor-Azor regions, where the heaviest fighting is expected to occur as early as this evening. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 3:56pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/87 "2023-04-20T15:56:19Z")
Seriously… After I typed all that you still go and put a WARHQ in Caldari space. Are you then going to cry on the forums again if the big bad pops it especially after you have been told this is what we do. I am not going to say anything but just hope others don’t notice it. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 4:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/88 "2023-04-20T16:41:50Z")
> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > I am not going to say anything Good Boy > [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > if the big bad pops it Now that would make me angry. You really don’t want to see me when I’m angry ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/f/2/9/f290270fc8977c58840e35f551ab863389b50b7e.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/89 "2023-04-20T20:05:41Z")
Well, you kind of have to think about it from a strategic perspective. The location of the HQ doesn’t necessarily denote where the fighting will take place. Think about who the target is, who the target’s enemies are, where everyone is generally located on the map, etc. It’s physically farther from Jita than most areas in Amarr space anyway. Maybe unintentionally, but your posting makes it pretty clear. I’m sure you guys (or one of the other yous who’s not _you_) are going to be shooting it regardless. All the past talk about “griefing me out of the game,” (I don’t even know why), the insults and toxic sexual comments (from people I’ve never even had any in-game interaction with before)…I’d be genuinely surprised if you _didn’t_ go for the easy W, so if I get even a day or two of content from it, and am able to write a couple of funny stories about it, then it was worth the money. This is a game to me, and not an extension of my personality as a stone-faced real-life mercenary. Anyway, big thanks to everyone with a sense of humor, who wrote in/chatted to tell me how much they’re enjoying this thread and the funny “news.” I have a bit more time to play now, and am looking for ways to liven up the forums with some fresh, interesting content. ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/90 "2023-04-20T20:26:51Z")
Well they wont get it from me 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/91 "2023-04-20T20:33:28Z")
Well I’ll take _your_ word for it; I’m just also sure how this is going to play out at _some_ point, and am going into this with certain expectations. Anyway, I’m more curious about the new guys who tried launching like dozens of wars. They seem to be getting _absolutely pounded_ by everyone. What’s their story? ---
**Author:** ![God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/god_emperor_kane/32/399336_2.png) [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/God_Emperor_Kane)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 8:38pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/92 "2023-04-20T20:38:46Z")
Bored, they come from Siege Green and Niwisu Cartel. Alts or mains I am not sure. But they have lost now (including an hour ago) 5 warhqs in 13 days. Each with like 30-40 wars on it. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/93 "2023-04-20T20:50:59Z")
> [@God\_Emperor\_Kane](#): > > But they have lost now (including an hour ago) 5 warhqs in 13 days. Each with like 30-40 wars on it. Yeah, but looking at their kills, it looks like they’re ISK-positive anyway. Probably had like 150-200 billion in drops, with maybe 30-40 billion in expenses. I personally _hate_ Caldari space, but it seems like there’s plenty of space and targets for multiple groups to operate there profitably. I don’t see a reason why any competition and rivalry needs to be nipped in the bud so quickly, especially since it could lead to a lot of content and mercenary work down the line. The game is becoming so stagnant. We’re down to like 20 posts in GD per day. New groups are barely being formed—it’s all about the old existing ones now. Even though I’ve had a crazy amount of content over the past few weeks, no one wanted to join, even when I invited people. Everyone’s either like “meh I barely play anymore” or are too busy farming FW LP. It’s sad. But oh well, more kills for me I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 10:52pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/94 "2023-04-20T22:52:14Z")
There’s loads of content. Ganking and wars galore. ---
**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 11:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/95 "2023-04-20T23:18:02Z")
“Loads” is a relative term. I would describe it as “enough” instead. There’s still enough activity for the game to be _viable,_ for now. The game has existed for two decades, but there’s just a fraction of the activity compared to only five years ago. Ganking is hanging on by a thread, with most gankers having quit due to the non-stop nerfs over the past two years. There used to be a time when quite literally hundreds of barges were getting popped every day, and now you can count them on one hand. Likewise, before 2018 or so, you could scroll the war interface for minutes before hitting the end, but now, there are only about 3 pages of live wars on average, with most being started by the same two or three groups. Unfortunately you don’t have a frame of reference for just how active the game was until a few years ago, despite having a similar population. I want to do interesting things. Have been thinking about starting up a blog of my own or something along those lines. But I’m just one person. Other people have to step up too. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2023, 11:53pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/96 "2023-04-20T23:53:21Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > But I’m just one person ![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/9/c/99c216c7b3a6817c868bbee0d56d24666e170908.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 12:47pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/97 "2023-04-21T12:47:45Z")
This rings so true. EVE is drying up. There’s still content to be had, but it’s concentrating around a few small oases of activity in an otherwise barren landscape. You used to be able to basically throw a dart at the map, and (at least in highsec), you could find some content there. This no longer seems to be the case. I remember back in the heyday of BU (which really wasn’t that long ago), there were like 40 of us running around every day, destroying new corporations that popped up, and we rarely even stepped on each other’s toes, because there were just that many new corporations emerging every single week. I don’t know if any of you guys have really shopped around for startup corporations lately, whether for legitimate reasons or otherwise, but it’s striking how few and far between they are. I come back from breaks 2 or 3 times a year, check out the recruitment forums/channel, and it’s always just the same few corps advertising every single time for the last couple years. Personally, I gave up on highsec solo wardecs, my longtime playstyle, when they were tied to structures. I’ve been able to find and greatly enjoy very similar content since then, but only by moving to nullsec and setting up camp with a mobile depot in the largest alliance staging systems. Oases of content in the desert. ---
**Author:** ![Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/wes_wyhunnan/32/409400_2.png) [@Wes\_Wyhunnan](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Wes_Wyhunnan)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/98 "2023-04-21T13:55:14Z")
> [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](#): > > asn’t that long ago), there were like 40 of us running around every day, destroying new corporations that popped up I’m all for non-consensual pvp, but at the same time it feels like maybe there is some correlation there right? I mean, you can only club so many dodos until there just aren’t any more. ---
**Author:** ![Buggs\_LeRoach](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buggs_leroach/32/376676_2.png) [@Buggs\_LeRoach](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buggs_LeRoach)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 3:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/99 "2023-04-21T15:00:33Z")
wasn’t dodo’s, it was PvE player avoiding the new npc corp tax. then get deccd , lose couple bill. faction bs , drop back to npc corp … sure those solo war dec corp remember those as good times , but paying concord to be allowed to hunt a solo player was unsustainable… ---
**Author:** ![Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/syeed_ameer_ali/32/411549_2.png) [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Syeed_Ameer_Ali)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/100 "2023-04-21T16:24:56Z")
The rise and fall of BU and the nerfing of that playstyle out of the game all happened like 8 or 9 years ago (rough guess), and certainly pre-dated the decline of the game. I think it’s a stretch to say that there’s a correlation. We can debate all day long about whether highsec awoxing was good or bad for the overall health of the ecosystem. There are arguments on both sides. But I’m tired of that old argument at this point and don’t want to get into it. I tend to think the stagnation of EVE is more due to other factors beyond our control, rather than due to any perceived bad behavior on the part of the players. MMOs in general just aren’t as novel and exciting as they used to be. CCP doesn’t seem to do a whole lot of marketing to the general public, instead focusing on former players. And so on and so on. The point is, as New Eden dries up and stagnates, is it any wonder that the predators become more protective of their oases of content? I can remember back in the day, when I saw a fellow pirate take down a target in my space, it would be high fives all around. Plenty of targets out there for all of us. The other day I was scouting a Vexor I planned to kill. Then some 3rd party jagoff in a Retribution warped in and attacked it. He didn’t even win the fight, he just attacked it a bit and then ran away. Of course the Vexor was spooked and docked up. No target for me. Far from the camaraderie of the old days, I was affronted that a 3rd party pirate was hunting on my turf. I was like “_You_ are the target now, bub.” So I kind of get why Black Flag have staked out Caldari highsec, the biggest oasis of content left, as their turf and just smash all competition. It may make things tough for up and coming small groups, but i think it’s just the reality of the times. ---
**Author:** ![Zaera\_Keena](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zaera_keena/32/449938_2.png) [@Zaera\_Keena](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zaera_Keena)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/101 "2023-04-21T16:27:48Z")
> [@Syeed\_Ameer\_Ali](#): > > Caldari highsec Bear Country ---
**Author:** ![Altara\_Zemara](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/altara_zemara/32/390110_2.png) [@Altara\_Zemara](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Altara_Zemara)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2023, 7:05pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990/102 "2023-04-21T19:05:15Z")
> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#): > > “Loads” is a relative term. I would describe it as “enough” instead Well, yes…but there’s also the fact that even an experienced player like you doesn’t necessarily know ‘all’ that is going on in Eve. You are right that I don’t know how active it was 5 or 6 years ago, but it seems pretty active to me now…in fact so much so that I often simply don’t have time to log in my ganker account to go ganking, for example. _Some_ aspects seem less busy…for example I have not seen huge ganks in Uedama for ages, though that seems because ganking is more spread out. But in terms of wars in highsec…I personally don’t see any shortage of them. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/heralding-the-announcement-of-a-no-limits-friendship/400990.md?page=6)