# Here is how to gain good standings to EDENCOM npcs 👮‍♀️

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**Created:** [August 11, 2020, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825 "2020-08-11T09:36:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sugar\_Smacks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/sugar_smacks/32/430124_2.png) [@Sugar\_Smacks](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Sugar_Smacks)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/61 "2020-08-12T02:47:43Z")

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So CCP is surprised people would want to be neutral too both sides?  
No surprise Edencom is shooting you on the launcher?  
Does anyone at CCP actually play this game? Other when you are trying to act like you do?

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**Author:** ![Cypherous](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/cypherous/32/499883_2.png) [@Cypherous](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Cypherous)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/62 "2020-08-12T05:02:28Z")

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> [@Zombie\_Ellecon](#):
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> More likely going to make people say FU CCP and join the triglavians

Sure, if they want to be on the losing side, with all the massive forts we are getting as a result of how blue serenity is the outcome of the war has already been decided, even with CCP trying to bribe people to fighting for trigs with missions

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/63 "2020-08-12T05:05:23Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> “War” is about as applicable here as it is in nullsec. It is just some combat lulz. **Easily avoided** and gimmicky.

Residents of Otela may disagree.

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**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 6:40am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/64 "2020-08-12T06:40:00Z")

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turns out there is a sweet spot just around 0.001 that could give neutral standings 🙂 im trying to get that now

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**Author:** ![Jessica\_OTLE](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Jessica\_OTLE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jessica_OTLE)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/65 "2020-08-12T08:49:37Z")

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Still in that sweet spot, but it probably won’t last long.

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**Author:** ![Anastasia\_Vemane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anastasia_vemane/32/152565_2.png) [@Anastasia\_Vemane](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anastasia_Vemane)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 9:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/66 "2020-08-12T09:10:21Z")

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Is that correct? -0.001 to Edencom is okay? Patch notes say ANY negative standing

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**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/67 "2020-08-12T09:26:58Z")

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I’m still trying to get that sweet spot lol  
It’s being a pain.

Can anyone confirm this is possible?

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**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 9:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/68 "2020-08-12T09:27:31Z")

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Are you neutral to both ?

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 9:30am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/69 "2020-08-12T09:30:54Z")

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Maybe its possible in a very, very slight margin, because of how rounding in EVE works.  
Maybe -0.001 is actually -0.00051 or -0.00050. I dont know, I am not good at these things.

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**Author:** ![Jessica\_OTLE](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Jessica\_OTLE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jessica_OTLE)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 10:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/70 "2020-08-12T10:09:34Z")

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![2020.08.12.10.01.51](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/0/1/01cad3c0c3380007aa586bfe3b167d797ddf9684.jpeg)  
Apparently so.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Deveron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/max_deveron/32/245870_2.png) [@Max\_Deveron](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Max_Deveron)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 10:19am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/71 "2020-08-12T10:19:14Z")

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There is plenty of lore…

dropped by in game items from the trigs themselves…

really you should go look at the stuff the RP group dealing with Drifters, Trigs, and Rouge drones over the past 2-3 years has been able to piece together.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 10:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/72 "2020-08-12T10:24:42Z")

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What about trigs? Are they not shooting you? If they dont shoot, this effectively cancels the change to standing in patch lol. Still possible to get the neutrality towards both.

I wonder if they will leave it as it is at this point.

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**Author:** ![Jessica\_OTLE](https://imageserver.eveonline.com/Character/1_512.jpg) [@Jessica\_OTLE](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Jessica_OTLE)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/73 "2020-08-12T10:31:09Z")

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White to both. Nobody’s shooting me, except the regular belt rats. I doubt this will last though, so don’t get hopes too high.

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 11:14am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/74 "2020-08-12T11:14:55Z")

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Some technical limitations, particularly the way standings are programmed may be not allowing it to be the other way tho.

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**Author:** ![Aesir\_Valtari](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/aesir_valtari/32/488282_2.png) [@Aesir\_Valtari](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Aesir_Valtari)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/75 "2020-08-12T12:39:55Z")

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Hmph.  
I’ve just checked situation with new rules about standings with Triglavians/EDENCOM, on my second character, on which I never opened fire on these NPCs. I have no standing at all with T/E (so I guess I have real 0.0 with both factions, as I see nothing about T/E in my Interaction -\> Standings info panel).

Went to EDENCOM combat site in Nourvukaiken. EDENCOM ships completely ignored my presence. Then I’ve traveled to Kino, and warped to nearest Triglavian combat site. After 10 seconds they extirpated me.

You can draw your own conclusions.

And by the way, it’s really sad to see that Kino is just… empty, no players there at all. All those stacked combat sites and anomalies. Yeah, I guess it’s now a living space for pro-Triglavians players, but apparently they are not interested in earning ISK and exploring anomalies in conquered systems, as they are all busy fighting in every stellar recon systems, to have more, more and MORE Triglavian systems in high sec. It doesn’t matter that most of them will be abandoned and without newbros/casuals/beginners corporations activity, as we used to see in high sec.

 ![kino](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/3X/a/f/af7ca477aa70e5be370b2397a7498a29f0566190.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/76 "2020-08-12T13:27:59Z")

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Not many people go there because of how dangerous it is now. Werposts and low sec status makes it very bad for alpha explorers who just started and even didnt shoot any side. Even when you are pro trig, you would have to think twice, because no CONCORD, and any pro trig pirate can kill you. Simple really.

The sites spawn the same like in normal high sec, that is safe everywhere else outside the invasion systems. Sometimes experienced pro trig explorer might come and run a bunch of sites, but rarely.

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**Author:** ![Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nicolai_serkanner/32/358049_2.png) [@Nicolai\_Serkanner](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nicolai_Serkanner)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/77 "2020-08-12T14:49:08Z")

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> [@Daichi\_Yamato](#):
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> There were parties that weren’t involved and far enough from the conflict to stay that way. But not truly neutral.

Yeah, Switzerland is continents away from where WW2 raged… and Sweden and Ireland as well, or Turkey

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**Author:** ![Buoytender\_Bob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/buoytender_bob/32/374377_2.png) [@Buoytender\_Bob](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Buoytender_Bob)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/78 "2020-08-12T15:29:05Z")

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Shhh, he’s on a roll…😉

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**Post date:** [August 12, 2020, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/79 "2020-08-12T17:20:56Z")

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The sites get run regularly, just not 24/7 as in other systems.

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**Author:** ![Daichi\_Yamato](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/daichi_yamato/32/252995_2.png) [@Daichi\_Yamato](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Daichi_Yamato)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2020, 2:29am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-good-standings-to-edencom-npcs/259825/80 "2020-08-13T02:29:09Z")

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They were neutral in an official sense, but the reality is that they were all involved in the war or at the very least affected by it. The neutrality that @Tintallei_Sharan is talking about is being ignored by both sides, which didn’t happen at all for countries you listed.

> [@Buoytender\_Bob](#):
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> Shhh, he’s on a roll

I am.

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