# Here is how to gain neutral standings to triglavian npcs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 11, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274 "2020-07-11T14:57:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 6:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/248 "2020-11-12T06:33:31Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > And, why don’t social skills work on Edencom and Triglavians? It is new system of playerbase exploitation, not your usual Storyline/RP/NPC/Missionratdifficulty way of dealing with content. ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 6:57am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/249 "2020-11-12T06:57:14Z")
If you go into Pochven and exclusively attack Sleeper and Rogue Drone forces and never attack EDENCOM or Trig, you will gain with both. Neither Trig, nor EDENCOM like either Sleepers or Rogue Drones, therefor losing standings with those factions increases standings with both EDENCOM and Triglavians. ---
**Author:** ![Triniti\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/triniti_crimson/32/243537_2.png) [@Triniti\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Triniti_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/250 "2020-11-13T04:09:25Z")
Do the Sleepers and rogue drones absolutely need to be destroyed in Pochven to gain standings with the Triglavians and EDENCOM? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/251 "2020-11-13T04:23:12Z")
Reliable people have reported a variety of results. It is unclear what the rules are - or whether there are any consistent rules. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:31am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/252 "2020-11-13T04:31:59Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > or whether there are any consistent rules. There will be, because it’s a program, not a GM sitting there deciding arbitrarily Probably the difference in results can be attributed to observation being limited in viewpoints, not omnipotent. ---
**Author:** ![Triniti\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/triniti_crimson/32/243537_2.png) [@Triniti\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Triniti_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/253 "2020-11-13T04:33:43Z")
I guess my real question is, can I simultaneously gain standings with the Triglavians and EDENCOM without entering Pochven? If so, is that an exploit? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:37am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/254 "2020-11-13T04:37:27Z")
You can shoot drifters inside the five drifter wormholes, I think that works. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:39am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/255 "2020-11-13T04:39:00Z")
The standings could be bugged and inconsistent. ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:43am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/256 "2020-11-13T04:43:03Z")
That’s… unlikely as that’s not how bugs tend to work, and we’d probably see it on other NPC’s also if that was the case. I mean it’s in theory possible, but it would be a very odd bug. More likely it’s to do with NPC’s getting killed out of the persons sight, even if it is by other NPC’s. ---
**Author:** ![Triniti\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/triniti_crimson/32/243537_2.png) [@Triniti\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Triniti_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 4:45am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/257 "2020-11-13T04:45:54Z")
Depends on whether or not the code is ad hoc or properly refactored. Inconsistency bugs are common given code duplication. ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 5:41am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/258 "2020-11-13T05:41:54Z")
Rogue Drones and Drifters outside of Pochven do not seem to be eligible for standings changes. The instructions from Zorya was only within Pochven and EDENCOM secured systems. ---
**Author:** ![Triniti\_Crimson](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/triniti_crimson/32/243537_2.png) [@Triniti\_Crimson](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Triniti_Crimson)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 5:49am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/259 "2020-11-13T05:49:27Z")
Are there rogue drones and/or Drifters in EDENCOM secured systems that can be used to increase standings with EDENCOM and the Triglavians? ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 5:58am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/260 "2020-11-13T05:58:25Z")
Scratching my head . . . why does Edencom care so much about the drifters in Pochven? ---
**Author:** ![Nevyn\_Auscent](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nevyn_auscent/32/255124_2.png) [@Nevyn\_Auscent](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nevyn_Auscent)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 6:02am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/261 "2020-11-13T06:02:54Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > why does Edencom care so much about the drifters in Pochven? Because it allows all the Trig supporters to negate the only consequence of ripping highsec apart, while leaving EDENCOM supporters nothing equivalent of course. ---
**Author:** ![Ashterothi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ashterothi/32/459299_2.png) [@Ashterothi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ashterothi)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/262 "2020-11-13T06:09:51Z")
No. They come into Pochven only when it is connected to Drone Lands and Wormhole space. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/263 "2020-11-13T08:00:45Z")
CCP wants you in Pochven, on Omega character. Because you pay them that way, and you have to play the chores so they have numbers to show. # You are a number in their statistics. You are a number they want to manipulate. Are you ok with that perspective? Only way of winning it is to not play. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:10am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/264 "2020-11-13T08:10:00Z")
> [@Nana\_Skalski](#): > > You are a number they want to manipulate. > > Are you ok with that perspective? > > Only way of winning it is to not play. This makes it sound like being required to _pay money_ for playing was a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 8:21am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/265 "2020-11-13T08:21:02Z")
It does make not being required (Alpha) seem wierd tho. ---
**Author:** ![Solstice\_Projekt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/solstice_projekt/32/503293_2.png) [@Solstice\_Projekt](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Solstice_Projekt)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/266 "2020-11-13T09:28:39Z")
Why ? ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 9:36am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/267 "2020-11-13T09:36:48Z")
I dunno, tbh I dont really remember typing that. Some dillweed was up at 730am this morning using a chainsaw in my street and rather than go out and give him an earful, apparently I opened EvE-O Forums and typed that. Probably best ignore it. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274.md?page=14)