# Here is how to gain neutral standings to triglavian npcs **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 11, 2020, 2:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274 "2020-07-11T14:57:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 1:14pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/126 "2020-08-06T13:14:51Z")
i had this today also šŸ™‚ jumped through into a trig minor system and steve took a dislike to my interceptor. didnt pod me but still not sure why he was grumpy šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 1:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/127 "2020-08-06T13:39:25Z")
did you submit a bug report ? Already happened to me, submitted several. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 7:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/128 "2020-08-06T19:51:08Z")
I dont think its bug, just true nature of a Trig showing up. Everyone who supports trigs will have to get those triangle, distorting glasses off and see the true shape of things. Or just get used to it. ---
**Author:** ![Ramona\_McCandless](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/ramona_mccandless/32/468438_2.png) [@Ramona\_McCandless](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Ramona_McCandless)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 8:00pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/129 "2020-08-06T20:00:14Z")
Just popped an alt through the neutral standings mill. Got vaped twice by the Steve, but third time got through and cashed in. seems fine to me ---
**Author:** ![Salt\_Foambreaker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/salt_foambreaker/32/280119_2.png) [@Salt\_Foambreaker](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Salt_Foambreaker)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 9:13pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/130 "2020-08-06T21:13:16Z")
> [@Clyde\_ElectraGlide](#): > > Honestly I hope they fix this, if only because it undermines the whole gravity of these invasions if it can get to a point where neither side shoots you. Itā€™s a PvP game, in PvP NPCs are an annoyance at best, full on interference at worst. They could remove: Abyss Trigs and make a massive improvement to the game. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/131 "2020-08-06T22:31:06Z")
Donā€™t need to send a bug report . I accept my fate when I jump into a Steve controlled gate. ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2020, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/132 "2020-08-06T22:36:14Z")
I lost only noobships. Still submitted a bug report, because it could help them find out and fix the bug. ---
**Author:** ![Nana\_Skalski](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/nana_skalski/32/489985_2.png) [@Nana\_Skalski](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Nana_Skalski)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 8:20am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/133 "2020-08-07T08:20:23Z")
> [@Anderson\_Geten](#): > > fix the bug Its not a bug, its a feature. :parrot: ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 7, 2020, 8:24am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/134 "2020-08-07T08:24:04Z")
I always undock from station in something tanky to test Steveā€™s mood. Especially after downtime. ---
**Author:** ![Rominor\_Anthar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rominor_anthar/32/327453_2.png) [@Rominor\_Anthar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rominor_Anthar)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/135 "2020-08-08T18:16:10Z")
I managed to gain +0.004 standing with triglavian yesterday and I can safely travel in a triglavian minor victory system with them always being white. I can even stay outside of a station with them roaming around for quite a long time. Yet today when I undock they just turn red (from white) immediately and begin to shoot me. Is this intended, or a bug? ---
**Author:** ![Rominor\_Anthar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/rominor_anthar/32/327453_2.png) [@Rominor\_Anthar](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Rominor_Anthar)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 2:38am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/136 "2020-08-09T02:38:04Z")
Some updates. Finally got one of my ship blown by white (then red) triglavian forces. Got it reimbursed. The blown ship was fitting auto-targeting missiles, could be the problemā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 11:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/137 "2020-08-09T11:05:13Z")
yes you still have to be careful when entering minor systems controled by trigs, always wait a few secs before uncloaking off a gate. steve sometimes gets angry and kills blues šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 11:46am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/138 "2020-08-09T11:46:53Z")
> [@Rominor\_Anthar](#): > > The blown ship was fitting auto-targeting missiles, could be the problemā€¦ nope. I had the same issue several times with noobships. Sometimes trigs shoot you even whe they like you. They are kinda toxic, seems like CCP took example on people on the forum. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/139 "2020-08-09T15:25:21Z")
I donā€™t see any trigs with your name ? Sorry couldnā€™t resist šŸ˜ ---
**Author:** ![Anderson\_Geten](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/anderson_geten/32/390041_2.png) [@Anderson\_Geten](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Anderson_Geten)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2020, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/140 "2020-08-09T16:35:53Z")
The copy canā€™t equate the model. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/141 "2020-08-11T03:05:15Z")
well unless trigs dont shoot at 0 standings everyone is screwed lol ---
**Author:** ![Skip\_Lorry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/skip_lorry/32/244808_2.png) [@Skip\_Lorry](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Skip_Lorry)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 3:18am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/142 "2020-08-11T03:18:11Z")
Patch notes for 8/11: - **EDENCOM NPCs will now be hostile to players which have any negative standing with them** Oopsie! ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 3:22am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/143 "2020-08-11T03:22:44Z")
Talk about the most idiotic action ever. ---
**Author:** ![Zombie\_Ellecon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/zombie_ellecon/32/264152_2.png) [@Zombie\_Ellecon](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Zombie_Ellecon)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 3:27am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/144 "2020-08-11T03:27:47Z")
welcome to the worlds biggest ā€œsandboxā€ spaceship mmo in the worldā€¦ now choose a side ---
**Author:** ![Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mkikaden_tiragen/32/243913_2.png) [@Mkikaden\_Tiragen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mkikaden_Tiragen)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2020, 3:32am UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274/145 "2020-08-11T03:32:16Z")
Iā€™d be fine if this had been the case at the start - it makes sense. Rolling it out literally months later with no real notice (less than 12 hours) means people will get unexpectedly killed all over again. The devs havenā€™t done a single thing right from a customer experience or design perspective in this implementation. Is there some enjoyable content for some players? Yes. Has it been well advertised (details-wise, not marketing-wise), implemented, or made accessible? No, no, and no. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274.md?page=6) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/here-is-how-to-gain-neutral-standings-to-triglavian-npcs/254274.md?page=8)