# Hey, CCP. i know what your doing and i dont think its going to work **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [April 1, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434 "2021-04-01T14:24:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/247 "2021-04-07T17:15:44Z")
Your statements are completely moronic. I said that you can PvE with a ship that is not optimized for PvE, and your response is to tell me that such a ship would not be optimized for PvE. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/248 "2021-04-07T17:16:05Z")
> [@Xanthellus](#): > > ok, show me a fit that uses scram, web and neuts and I’ll tell you how it would do better for pve. > > I’m sure you can list _some_, right? Go for it. i will not show you ■■■■ you are being super aggressive , ill have some chai have a wonderful day ---
**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/249 "2021-04-07T17:16:27Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > our statements are completely moronic. I said that you can PvE with a ship that is not optimized for PvE, and your response is to tell me that such a ship would not be optimized for PvE. yeah you CAN do it, but its not good… you dont gain anything by it ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/250 "2021-04-07T17:16:54Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Your statements are completely moronic. I said that you can PvE with a ship that is not optimized for PvE, and your response is to tell me that such a ship would not be optimized for PvE Nonononono, you stated they could **maximise isk/h** , your words not mine. Don’t be changing the subject now. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/251 "2021-04-07T17:18:25Z")
> [@Xanthellus](#): > > Nonononono, you stated they could **maximise isk/h** , your words not mine. Don’t be changing the subject now. Show me where I said that. ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/252 "2021-04-07T17:19:01Z")
You know what’s really terrible? I don’t even have a problem with the thing this thread is about but I do have problems with the same old same old regular clown posters messing up a thread with more nonsense. Some of the posters who haven’t even played in a while, others being obvious gank alts. ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:20pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/253 "2021-04-07T17:20:52Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > Show me where I said that Right here: ![idiot](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/2/0/1/2013046869ec4158fd0c5c0a1f563964f762366e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:21pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/254 "2021-04-07T17:21:47Z")
> [@tutucox\_Khamsi](#): > > i will not show you ■■■■ > you are being super aggressive No it’s because you can’t. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/255 "2021-04-07T17:22:03Z")
A shovel does the job just like a backhoe. If what you enjoy is digging holes, then why not do it slowly and savor the experience? ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/256 "2021-04-07T17:22:04Z")
low sec barges use to fit scrams , and in fact roaming frigates and destroyers CANT kill them how could them , a 5k ehp ship vs a 50k drone monstrosity ??? think about it i was in pochven fixing my standing and engaged some mining frigate the other day the dude had a tracking disruptor , it was enough to buy time to call a friend interceptor and they killed me > **[Punisher | tutucox Khamsi | Killmail](https://zkillboard.com/kill/91936276/)** > > tutucox Khamsi (24th Imperial Crusade) lost their Punisher in Archee (Pochven). Final Blow by Cameron Sausage (Stribog Kybernaut Subclade) flying in a Claw. Total Value: 10,252,717.88 ISK im trying to help but your resentment is on the way ---
**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/257 "2021-04-07T17:22:06Z")
> [@Xanthellus](#): > > Right here: omg stop… the point is mute, as i explained… **it dont hafto be optimized for pve.** … **but there is no real reason to why it would be optimized for anything else then pve.** _perhaps only for bait… yeah sure, but then again, your a pvper and not pve’er_ ---
**Author:** ![Xanthellus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xanthellus/32/253691_2.png) [@Xanthellus](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xanthellus)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/258 "2021-04-07T17:23:33Z")
> [@Xeux](#): > > A shovel does the job just like a backhoe. If what you enjoy is digging holes, then why not do it slowly and savor the experience? Nono, could you at least try and prove you’re not a useless poster with meaningless posts? You stated that PVE BS can maximise their isk/h just fine while having scram, web and neuts. If you’re so sure of that just show us some of those, so you can prove you actually know what you’re talking about and aren’t a complete waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/259 "2021-04-07T17:24:15Z")
You are flagrantly misquoting me and expecting me to take you seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/261 "2021-04-07T17:26:16Z")
Nothing of value was lost. ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:26pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/263 "2021-04-07T17:26:47Z")
> [@Xanthellus](#): > > Into the mute bin you go. One less useless vapid poster to waste my time on. omg im so sad , i come to this forum every day dreaming that you would read my posts 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Epeen](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/mr_epeen/32/373308_2.png) [@Mr\_Epeen](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Mr_Epeen)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/264 "2021-04-07T17:34:55Z")
> [@Hug\_Motsu](#): > > the point is mute, as i explained… moot Mr Epeen 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![tutucox\_Khamsi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tutucox_khamsi/32/430743_2.png) [@tutucox\_Khamsi](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/tutucox_Khamsi)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:39pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/265 "2021-04-07T17:39:58Z")
look i found the fit not only he have a tracking disruptor but a point AND prop ![Captura de Tela 2021-04-07 às 14.39.11](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/original/4X/9/2/d/92db4999f6b0bdfcb8f52ce9762e9de0e448ef86.png) smart guy ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 5:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/266 "2021-04-07T17:57:34Z")
The level of shite posting has not got better. There are many PvE experiences that need a fully fit specialised ship to run, the most notable being escalations in nullsec. Trying to fit for PvP is going to screw up the fit so that it does not work for the PvE. Try running a 10/10 with a PvP fit, LMAO I used to do PvE with PvP fits when belt ratting but even then it was difficult, for example I used to run two Phantasms but if I fitted a point it was no longer cap stable with the AB and lasars on. So when player give these throw away comments about fitting for PvP they prove their ignorance. I lost count of the number of interceptors that warped out in low hull after warping in on me. It would be amusing if these forums warriors actually played PvE… ---
**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 6:02pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/267 "2021-04-07T18:02:38Z")
Aren’t you literally describing the very playstyle that we are talking about? . . . and you are calling us names for trying to tell people it is possible? ---
**Author:** ![Dracvlad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/dracvlad/32/444126_2.png) [@Dracvlad](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Dracvlad)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2021, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/268 "2021-04-07T18:03:23Z")
It is possible in some areas, your statement was very general and rather useless. Be specific on where it works and I will give you some respect. [Previous page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434.md?page=12) [Next page](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434.md?page=14)