# Hey, CCP. i know what your doing and i dont think its going to work

**URL:** <https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434>\
**Category:** General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 1, 2021, 2:24pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434 "2021-04-01T14:24:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/161 "2021-04-06T21:30:29Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> What is even the point of debating with somebody that openly admits they don’t care about useless stuff, like knowledge?

no my dude… i just said that THAT knowledge was utterly useless to know, and obviously you disagree and feel offended and sit and are negative on the internet - whining on others who are on the internet… in a loop etc…

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/162 "2021-04-06T21:31:46Z")

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When you talk to people in real life, do you present yourself like this? Because you come across as a very belligerent sort of stooge.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/163 "2021-04-06T21:32:27Z")

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> [@Hug\_Motsu](#):
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> its not like i have said in this thread i buy plex for isk

Sorry, I thought you were the smarter of the two sides, the one that recognizes that the conversion rate on pay to win trash is overwhelmingly in favor. I will try to remember that you’re the dumb side, the one that accepts less than half of minimum wage for your time.

> no sorry dude, i dont have rl money to buy pixels, my doggo just broke his paw and vets expensive af.

Then go work those 4-6 hours a month at your local burger place. You’ll have an EVE subscription with cash left over.

> its good for the game…

It really isn’t. EVE is supposed to be a game, not a competition to see who will spend the most IRL cash for imaginary internet spaceships. You and your F2P trash can GTFO and go back to WoW. Because, as a wise person once said:

> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> If you died tomorrow, no one would miss you.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/164 "2021-04-06T21:34:00Z")

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> [@Hug\_Motsu](#):
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> i just said that THAT knowledge was utterly useless to know

I can not possibly imagine how knowing basic facts about economic and political systems could ever be relevant. Let me guess, you still vote despite your utter ignorance of politics?

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/165 "2021-04-06T21:34:32Z")

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Don’t get me banned lmao.

The context for saying that was that he talked ■■■■ about people with cognitive disorders, in case a mod doesn’t scroll up.

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**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/166 "2021-04-06T21:36:09Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Then go work those 4-6 hours a month at your local burger place. You’ll have an EVE subscription with cash left over.

well… have you ever hard the expression “its not work if you love what you’re doing” …

> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> I can not possibly imagine how knowing basic facts about economic and political systems could ever be relevant. Let me guess, you still vote despite your utter ignorance of politics?

well… i have already proven that I know more about this stuff than you do…  
and no, I only vote for the important stuff, like CSM.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/168 "2021-04-06T21:37:53Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> The context for saying that was that he talked ■■■■ about people with cognitive disorders, in case a mod doesn’t scroll up.

Over/under on how many racial slurs he has screamed in CoD games since his 14th birthday? Should be about 3 months of time I think?

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**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:37pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/169 "2021-04-06T21:37:54Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> Thank god. You’re so useless and ignorant that at least you don’t try to drag the rest of us down with you.

aww… with all that said, im still the only one who talks to you… how does that make you feel?

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**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:41pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/170 "2021-04-06T21:41:43Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> When you talk to people in real life, do you present yourself like this? Because you come across as a very belligerent sort of stooge.

im sorry that you where beeing rude and sarcasticly trying to make fun of me, and i responded towards you as “belligerent” … or are you perhaps talking about the shitposter in here trying to play off communism as capitalism, and me who calls him out on it?

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**Author:** ![Xeux](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/xeux/32/428022_2.png) [@Xeux](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Xeux)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:42pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/172 "2021-04-06T21:42:53Z")

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I am mostly talking about your responses to other people. Just skimming through what you have posted makes you seem pretty aggressive.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:43pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/173 "2021-04-06T21:43:22Z")

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> [@Hug\_Motsu](#):
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> trying to play off communism as capitalism

You still haven’t explained what removing pay to win trash from EVE has to do with collective ownership of the means of production.

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**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:44pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/174 "2021-04-06T21:44:21Z")

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> [@Xeux](#):
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> I am mostly talking about your responses to other people. Just skimming through what you have posted makes you seem pretty aggressive.

lol, perhaps you should read the repsones i’ve gotten… perhaps you will understand why i am hostile towards them?

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**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:46pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/175 "2021-04-06T21:46:36Z")

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> [@Merin\_Ryskin](#):
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> You still haven’t explained what removing pay to win trash from EVE has to do with collective ownership of the means of production.

im sorry, i missed the part where i own you an explanation for anything.  
and also … lol, first you trashtalk the topic… derailing an genuinly interesting discusstion, then you call me dumb and trashtalk… then you ask me to enlighten you… lord have mercy.

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**Author:** ![Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/tiger_space_thedark/32/373728_2.png) [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Tiger_space_Thedark)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/176 "2021-04-06T21:49:02Z")

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the point is to drive the battleship up so that when you are going to lose it, it actualy going to impact your game then just “lol, time to bring out the next one”

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/177 "2021-04-06T21:49:10Z")

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> [@Hug\_Motsu](#):
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> then you ask me to enlighten you

No, I offer you a chance to defend your profoundly stupid comments and maybe convince anyone that you aren’t as ignorant as you first appeared. Feel free to reject that opportunity and confirm the impression we all have.

As a nice side bonus I highlighted your failure to defend your case, making it clear to anyone new to this thread that you are exactly as ignorant as we claim.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:49pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/178 "2021-04-06T21:49:19Z")

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> [@Hug\_Motsu](#):
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> lol, perhaps you should read the repsones i’ve gotten… perhaps you will understand why i am hostile towards them?

The responses you received were commensurate with your ignorance.

You questioned someone’s knowledge in the same post where you admitted to not knowing anything about the subject matter, and worse yet, _not caring_ about not knowing anything about it. Should’ve just said “you know what, you’re right, I’ll read up on it and get back to you with a better of explanation of my stance, if it doesn’t change, thanks.” Instead you doubled down on not needing to know because apparently you’re very smart because you don’t talk about how smart you are (???).

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**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/179 "2021-04-06T21:51:44Z")

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> [@Tiger\_space\_Thedark](#):
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> the point is to drive the battleship up so that when you are going to lose it, it actualy going to impact your game then just “lol, time to bring out the next one”

yeah … okay, sure… i understand that… but! … the thing is.  
it’s not really the right approach as “only” pve-players fly battleship and capitals.

(i mean sure a lot of PVP is happening in battleships/capitals of course, but the majority of undocking battleships/capitals are pilots who engage in PvE…  
so it is very unfair, and if you ask me, bad for the game… to give a kid with a fleet of ganking tornado alts incentive to engage further in this playstyle

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**Author:** ![Hug\_Motsu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/hug_motsu/32/264439_2.png) [@Hug\_Motsu](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Hug_Motsu)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/180 "2021-04-06T21:55:10Z")

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> [@Destiny\_Corrupted](#):
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> You questioned someone’s knowledge in the same post where you admitted to not knowing anything about the subject matter, and worse yet, _not caring_ about not knowing anything about it.

and you should have explained it, instead of going on a personal rampage attacking me as a person, going off topic in so many ways.

thats right, i questioned someones knowledge, and i wonder why you dont explain to me instead of going on a personal attack… hm.

i have asked you/merin mutliple times to explain yourselfs, and how im wrong.

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**Author:** ![Merin\_Ryskin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/merin_ryskin/32/259354_2.png) [@Merin\_Ryskin](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Merin_Ryskin)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/181 "2021-04-06T21:57:27Z")

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> [@Hug\_Motsu](#):
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> thats right, i questioned someones knowledge, and i wonder why you dont explain to me instead of going on a personal attack… hm.

We didn’t explain it because you questioned it in an insulting way, bragged about your own ignorance as you did so, and then smugly declared victory. Whiny children get insults and discipline. If you want explanations act like an adult, do your basic research, and at least pretend to be interested in constructive discussion.

> i have asked you/merin mutliple times to explain yourselfs, and how im wrong.

You’re wrong because you’re acting like one of those Fox News cultists who has no idea what “communism” means but is very certain that whatever they’re told to be outraged about this week is definitely communism. Do some basic research on what communism actually is and you won’t say stupid things like “removing pay to win mechanics is communism”.

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**Author:** ![Destiny\_Corrupted](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/eveonline/user_avatar/forums.eveonline.com/destiny_corrupted/32/411527_2.png) [@Destiny\_Corrupted](https://forums.eveonline.com/u/Destiny_Corrupted)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 9:58pm UTC](https://forums.eveonline.com/t/hey-ccp-i-know-what-your-doing-and-i-dont-think-its-going-to-work/303434/182 "2021-04-06T21:58:42Z")

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> [@Hug\_Motsu](#):
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> and you should have explained it, instead of going on a personal rampage attacking me as a person, going off topic in so many ways.

It was explained multiple times in this thread.

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